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    Default Swiss voters vote yes to restrict EU immigrants!!



    Swiss voters have narrowly backed a referendum proposal to bring back strict quotas for immigration from European Union countries.

    Final results showed 50.3% voted in favour. The vote invalidates the Swiss-EU agreement on freedom of movement.

    Fiercely independent Switzerland is not a member of the EU, but has adopted large sections of EU policy.

    Brussels said it regretted the outcome of the vote and would examine its implications.

    A Yes vote of more than 50% was needed for the referendum to pass.

    The BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Geneva says the vote has shown up traditional divisions, with French-speaking areas against the quotas, German-speaking regions divided, and the Italian-speaking canton of Ticino firmly in favour.

    A Yes vote means Swiss ministers will have some tricky explaining to do in Brussels, our correspondent says.

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    Hehe, if Hitler invaded Switzerland in 1940 it would save EU's trouble today; anyway, now what? Would Brussels embargo Switzerland until it submit?

    Also I wonder why Italian Swiss dislike EU so much.
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    Same reason an Anschluss wouldn't have worked: the Swiss dislike their neighbours more than they resent themselves.
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    Well it will be fun to wacth the Swiss cleaning their own streets, and instead.

    Also I wonder why Italian Swiss dislike EU so much.
    Dont worry, everyone everywhere doesnt have a good image of the swiss anyway... they refused to sell Oprah a luxury wallet because she is black, they tought she didnt had the money...

    I found it funny Le pen and the national front celebrating this decision, where there is alot of French that will be hurt by this Swiss policies.
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    Now they have to work out if this is actually legal/possible, what with their treaties with the EU
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    Quote Originally Posted by GussieFinkNottle View Post
    Now they have to work out if this is actually legal/possible, what with their treaties with the EU
    The swiss proposal that was aproved, was to limit EU citizens to enter their country. In that view, i guess the treaties, might not be relevant anymore, that is why EU is reviewing them i guess.
    As the legality of it. the swiss can do what they want obviously, and they arent part of the EU to boot. Even if its a civilizational step backwards policie, in the eyes of EU members. Naturaly this kinda of things goes both ways. What the Swiss will lose, im uncertain, but if embargos happens, i guess they will lose something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven View Post
    What the Swiss will lose, im uncertain, but if embargos happens, i guess they will lose something.




    I wonder how would the evil dragon EU deal with fortress Switzerland this time.
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    One variant is to just limit salaries to above a certain level: so that they can keep the cream of foreign expertise.
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    OMG. Democracy and human rights are in danger. I think USA, EU, NATO, Romanian cheap labor federation and Internatonal chocolate addicted people league should condemn this horrible anti-human law.



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    The title is wrong. The popular initiative was to restrict all immigrants; EU immigrants were not singled-out in the text.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven View Post
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    Dont worry, everyone everywhere doesnt have a good image of the swiss anyway... they refused to sell Oprah a luxury wallet because she is black, they tought she didnt had the money...
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    So one Italian employee in a Zurich luxury shop suddenly becomes "they" and a representative for all the Swiss?
    There might be a bit of faulty logic there.

    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
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    Also I wonder why Italian Swiss dislike EU so much.
    Two reasons: a lot of border workers (i.e. people who live on the other side of the border but work in Switzerland), as a matter of fact one in four worker in Ticino is a borderer; this is combined with one of the highest unemployment rate in Switzerland. The second reason is also due to immigration proper: as Ticino is the direct entry point from immigrates who transited through Italy (i.e. who reached Europe through Lampedusa and Sicily) that topic tends to be disproportionally covered in that canton.

    Also, once again, the vote was on immigration as a whole, not specifically the EU; though in Ticino the topic of Italy border workers definitely had an important impact.
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    I agree with the Swiss good for them before the swarm of social welfare seeking scum and free health care seeking scum who have given nothing to the kitty arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John ''True Grit'' Wayne View Post
    I agree with the Swiss good for them before the swarm of social welfare seeking scum and free health care seeking scum who have given nothing to the kitty arrive.

    A good point you made. I mean, I am open to people moving around and making a new life for themselves, nothing wrong with that, but one has to keep their national identify in some way and try to crack down on the freeloaders who not helping out, especially tax wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Simonyi de Vitézvár View Post
    one has to keep their national identify in some way and try to crack down on the freeloaders who not helping out, especially tax wise.
    Agree; Scotland should constantly promote their national identity and crack down any freeloaders from England tax wise, and same as Confederacy.
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    Ok swiss have it pretty good with 3% or less unemplyment and a growing economy so this is retarded.

    Reactionary view: oh noez this is the beginning of the end for the EU as other countries start wanting renegotiations.

    I mean maybe it is, really.

    Skeptic view: this is barely news. Legal wrangle as they may lose access to the common markets as they have stepped out of it effectively or they may gain a special provision. It will take a long time.

    Also people forget they are not treaty bound like say the UK so its a whole different kettle of smelly cheese for us to try that.

    Pro eu view: they are doomed, doomed mwahahaha as no economy can be successful without being in the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Ok swiss have it pretty good with 3% or less unemplyment and a growing economy so this is retarded.

    Reactionary view: oh noez this is the beginning of the end for the EU as other countries start wanting renegotiations.

    I mean maybe it is, really.

    Skeptic view: this is barely news. Legal wrangle as they may lose access to the common markets as they have stepped out of it effectively or they may gain a special provision. It will take a long time.

    Also people forget they are not treaty bound like say the UK so its a whole different kettle of smelly cheese for us to try that.

    Pro eu view: they are doomed, doomed mwahahaha as no economy can be successful without being in the EU.

    The absolute worse that can happen is they get restricted access to the single market, and considering they are land locked that could be a big deal.

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    I wasn´t planning to emigrate towards Switzerland for the time being, so personally I do not care.

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    Healthcare is disproportionately represented by foreigners which made it within the margins of affordability.

    Obama should import more foreign doctors and nurses.
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    So one Italian employee in a Zurich luxury shop suddenly becomes "they" and a representative for all the Swiss?
    There might be a bit of faulty logic there.
    Thats not what i said, i said it hurts the overall image, and international perception, whataver you like it or not. Specialy if you add other things like the one we are debating in this thread into the mix.
    Truly every swiss is like that? of course not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven View Post
    Thats not what i said, i said it hurts the overall image, and international perception, whataver you like it or not.
    Ok. How does it hurt the overall image? How does it affect the international perception of Switzerland negatively?

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Ok. How does it hurt the overall image? How does it affect the international perception of Switzerland negatively?
    In the West we call it Xenophobia

    you can read what does it mean here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

    Swiss voterns violated the basic principle of human rights. IMO, military action should be taken against Switzerland in order to restore democracy and freedoms. Too bad Obama is such a pussy to do this.

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