New historic battle intro video - Aztecs vs. Cortez

[Leatherpenguin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FTh5DmS_o


Looks like a really cool fight

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Awesome
The animations and the Aztecs are just awesome.

[cudakite]

Awesome!

[Kontos]

Great narration , beautiful graphics.
Looks like a quality game is on it's way !!

[PurpleScotch]

Nice video! The battle looks very good!

[PROMETHEUS ts]

But the battle isn't historical as well as the landscape is wrong too ....

[Caius Britannicus]

But the battle isn't historical as well as the landscape is wrong too ....

Quit your whinning, its not very flattering.

[CIaagent11]

Quit your whinning, its not very flattering.

Agree.

Four historical battle videos in some days.
Well, its starting to be fun to wait for M2TW.
Not like these times some months ago when the only
new info in a whole week would be a blog or some screens.

Not flaming here, im totally fine with that.

[Mccray]

The macuahuitl (or maquahuitl) was an Aztec obsidian-edged sword-club. It served both as an edged weapon (due to its obsidian blades) and an impact weapon (due to its stout hardwood body). The macuahuitl was also self sharpening. It was capable of easily cleaving to bone. According to Spanish conquistador Bernal Diaz del Castillo, it was also capable of decapitating a horse. wiki..

Bonus Vs. calvary?

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Quit your whinning, its not very flattering.

I am not whining at all Caius , and please stop starting to flame people as your are used to do always thats just an unpolite behaviour...

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

But the battle isn't historical as well as the landscape is wrong too ....

Battle of Otomba is indeed a historical battle

[Titus]

WoW!! This is realy nice !

[Matty_P]

eheheheheh!

[Fianóglach]

I found myself admiring the landscape as much as the impressive Aztec army, can't wait to try my hand at playing the Spanish in this battle.

[The Mongol]

Battle of Otomba is indeed a historical battle

It is indeed a historical battle, a big win for the Spanish.

Btw, it's Otumba.

[Matty_P]

a big win for the Spanish

duh. it's almost sad what happened to the Aztecs. They were utterly destroyed, their armies and skill at arms totally negated by lack of technology.

[Sephynos]

Nice vidz!!

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Battle of Otomba is indeed a historical battle

Not sying it didnt happened , just saying didnt go like it looks in the representation ....

[Matty_P]

yeah, i doubt the spanish were shaking in their boots with fear of the terribly short amerindians with sticks and stones.

[BKB]

The battle on the Plains of Otuma changed the war in Cortez's favour. If the Aztecs had waited and not launched a frontal attack in the day on flat ground they could have destroyed the Spanish expedition.

[snuff]

Nice find. I really have more respect for the Aztecs now as they look pretty interesting.

[AlfonsoVIII]

Looks very good and very enticing, especially since I plan on playing Spain first. I wonder if the morale difference in this scenario is upped for the Aztecs not to be "panicked" by horses and guns.

[GBAB]

Best video until now! Excelent...

[Sitarus Originalus PM-30+]

impressive landscape and units =) cant wait to play it =)

[The Mongol]

drool....

Those Aztecs are awesome... I can't wait.

[~Alexander~]

drool....

Those Aztecs are awesome... I can't wait.

Same here, i agree...

they are WOW

[{nF}remix]

Damn, that Aztec city looks gorgeous.

[Pre]

I can't wait to slaughter some natives.

(Sorry but honestly, I'll take the money for Spain over some Aztec's anyday I'm going to chop them into bits)

Looks very fun, love the animations

[katsusand]

Oh nooo , I wonder When People Are Going To Stop Using YouTube Cuase its blocked in my country cuz People Upload Porn And Stuff, I think Google Video Is Good, But I am sure no one will hear me

[Hansa]

The friggin narrators voice got in the way, but somehow, although I couldn't hear him clearly, it didn't seem English when Cortez adressed his men, not English at all. Latin perhaps?

Visually, the battle intro was a feast to the eyes, but they'we already shown eye candy. If the different factions speak differnet languages thats a much bigger and better surprise, if im correct, then horray CA! (and faction colour tone down please).

All in all

[MadeManG74]

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!

I guess that the inquisitions were only a temporary event rather than a foundatoin of their civilization like the sacrifices were to the aztecs. Im no expert on the matter though so i may be wrong

Great battle by the looks of it, I wonder how powerful cavalry will be in that battle, since they make it sound very important against the natives.

[Medieval_Rocks]

Astecz seems very nice!!!

[{nF}remix]

I regret what happened to a truly sophisticated civilization. I hope everyone realizes that the Aztecs were an amazing civilization, but there is no need to paint them somethign that they weren't: humane.

You wouldn't know that. History is written by the victor, and in this case the Spanish. The Aztecs weren't barbaric at all, in their view it was part of their religion. The Aztecs had far more advanced astronomy then any other civilization in the world. Their cities were gorgeous, elegant, and amazingly designed. They built an island city on a Lake! The streets were far cleaner then the plague-ridden streets of European towns. They were structured. My point is the Aztecs were far from barbaric and were one of the most civilized nations at the time..

Yes the Tecs sacrificed people, but what about the Catholic church's Inquisition? Did they not brutally torture innocent people, held a religious ceremony in which heresy charges were announced before them, and then burned them at the stake in front of a crowd? Does that not sound familliar with the Tecs and their religious rituals? Was the inquisition humane?

Also FYI, millions of native Aztecs still survive in Central America, and plenty practice their native religions still. They don't sacrifice humans.

Every civilization has their dark side and you shouldn't blatantly call a civilization inhumane when the same civilization your defending has done horrible acts as well.

[xopium]

You wouldn't know that. History is written by the victor, and in this case the Spanish. The Aztecs weren't barbaric at all, in their view it was part of their religion. The Aztecs had far more advanced astronomy then any other civilization in the world. Their cities were gorgeous, elegant, and amazingly designed. They built an island city on a Lake! The streets were far cleaner then the plague-ridden streets of European towns. They were structured. My point is the Aztecs were far from barbaric and were one of the most civilized nations at the time..

Yes the Tecs sacrificed people, but what about the Catholic church's Inquisition? Did they not brutally torture innocent people, held a religious ceremony in which heresy charges were announced before them, and then burned them at the stake in front of a crowd? Does that not sound familliar with the Tecs and their religious rituals? Was the inquisition humane?

Also FYI, millions of native Aztecs still survive in Central America, and plenty practice their native religions still. They don't sacrifice humans.

Every civilization has their dark side and you shouldn't blatantly call a civilization inhumane when the same civilization your defending has done horrible acts as well.

Agreed 100%. Every religion in history seems to be as ''barbaric'' as another, especially how so called Catholics attacked fellow Christians and ruined Constantinople and Zara in the Fourth Crusade and when other so called Catholics massacred Orthodox Serbs in Croatia for "religious reasons". But the same can be said for Orthodox Serbs who massacred Muslims in Bosnia and so on. Every religion or pattern of beliefs people follow (atheism is exactly the same) has a good side and a dark side. There is no better or worse IMO so people shouldn't single out the Aztecs for that reason.

On another note the Aztecs look amazing :0

[Matty_P]

You wouldn't know that. History is written by the victor, and in this case the Spanish. The Aztecs weren't barbaric at all, in their view it was part of their religion. The Aztecs had far more advanced astronomy then any other civilization in the world. Their cities were gorgeous, elegant, and amazingly designed. They built an island city on a Lake! The streets were far cleaner then the plague-ridden streets of European towns. They were structured. My point is the Aztecs were far from barbaric and were one of the most civilized nations at the time..

you have no idea what ur rambling about.

go look up barbarism, barbarity, or barbaric in webster's, see what it means. regardless of what they thought, the fact that they sacrificed, often unwilling, individuals is vulgar and disgusting. oh em gee, they built an island on a lake!?!? woopty do, look at venice or Amsterdam. these cities too have overcome water to build magnificence. the fact that their cities were 'beautiful' as you say is also a far cry from the truth. planned cities had existed in europe since before roman times, thoguht the romans perfected the practice. I'm sure Teotiuachan and Texocotal had their own cesspools and slums. to say that european streets were plague ridden is a generalization and a ignorant statment.

civilized? just because they could look at the sky and make planned cities hardly denotes civilization. it's a step, but europe was superior.

Yes the Tecs sacrificed people, but what about the Catholic church's Inquisition? Did they not brutally torture innocent people, held a religious ceremony in which heresy charges were announced before them, and then burned them at the stake in front of a crowd? Does that not sound familliar with the Tecs and their religious rituals? Was the inquisition humane?

already addressed. you must have missed it when you were blinded by the glory of Aztec star-gazing...

the Inquisition was a dark period, it's been conceded by the Church. although it was horrible you can't changed the past. I offered a perspective that doesn't dress up either the horridity of the Inquisitions or the sacrifices of the Aztecs, but since you neglected my view I'll be nasty and estimate that the Aztecs sacrificed more people than the Inquisition killed. (mind you, the Inquisition is believed to have only killed at most some several tens of thousands.)

Also FYI, millions of native Aztecs still survive in Central America, and plenty practice their native religions still. They don't sacrifice

um? NO-DUH!

Every civilization has their dark side and you shouldn't blatantly call a civilization inhumane when the same civilization your defending has done horrible acts as well.

my my, confrontational aren't we?

I addressed this. If you'd learn to read an entire argument before condemning it maybe I wouldn't have to school you so harshly. I will also reserve my own opinions because I am free and at liberty to do so. However, I hope that you will note that I believe the loss of Aztec culture (an many other Amerindian cultures) is a terrible loss that was incurred at the cost of all humanity.

for the love of God, read the whole statement next time!

Sorry, this is just absurd....

on what grounds? ripping someone's heart out is equally as disturbing and impermissable as burnign them at the stake for heresy. picking and choosing aren't we?

[Matty_P]

You guys are shockingly anti-Catholic.

the debate wasn't about the Inquisition, but you bring it up as a poweder keg to bolster you're arguement.

NO ONE said that the Inquisition was a good thing. I even conceded the loonacy to which it was pursued.

I'm trying to make a point that no matter how you look at it human sacrifice is wrong and disgusting. The Inquisition is just as bad, but that's not what's at issue here. Human sacrifice is and I hope everyone here realizes that even though the Aztecs practiced it, it doesn't make them any less sophisitcated. It's the blemish that most civilzations carry.

[{nF}remix]

Also, I'm aware of the reasons Aztecs sacrificed humans and its religious significance but that doesn't change the fact that they slaughtered the helpless, whether they were prisoners of war or willing participants. Sorry, cutting out someone's heart is vulgar and savage, as Matty said

Sorry, this is just absurd....

I'm aware of the reasons Aztecs sacrificed humans and its religious significance but that doesn't change the fact that they slaughtered the helpless, whether they were prisoners of war or willing participants.

I'm also aware of the reasons that the church burned humans and its religious significance but that doesen't change the fact that they tortured and scorched the helpless, whether they were innocent political enemies, rebels, anti-loyalists, minorities, pagan, mentally-ill, disabled, or Templars.

Sorry, cutting out someone's heart is vulgar and savage, as Matty said

Yes, and i'm sure bloodless torture in which your body was crushed, all your bones broken, being scorched slowly in every body part by red-hot pincers wasn't vulgar and savage at all. Not to mention being forced to digest massive quantities of water mixed with urine, perpper, and ****. Also being placed on a rack and curled up to the point where all your joints have snapped wasn't pretty vulgar and savage at all I guess....

Afterwards a mass was held which basically was your death ceremony. You were either burned at the stake or handed over to the authorities who would execute you and were no longer restricted by blood. Vulgar and savage eh?

Touché

[nameless]

I thought the whole point of this thread was about how cool the Aztecs look in the video along with the spanish....

Leave religion alone. Keep it separate, it's a game.

[Matty_P]

Agreed.

This topic should be continued elsewhere, if at all...

[Node]

wow even the crappy transition from 3d to sprite still looks horribly obvious and stupid

since this is the same game as rome I cant wait to see how horrible the AI is. just make a wall of troops, right click once, win if you have more numbers