Tight battles

[Agapios]

Hey guys, just being curious, what are your tightest battles in 2.6? (won or lost, doesn't matter)
I gave my 2 examples below, thanks and cheers!

[High Fist]

Easy.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post13488115

[Agapios]

Easy.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post13488115

Nice one sir! If I may ask, do you possible remember how long did that battle took?

[High Fist]

Not sure. Two hours maybe? Long enough anyway.

[Alavaria]

Four hour long siege assaults. Keep in mind though, the AI is bad at RTW, so the K is pretty good.

Thanks, garrison scripts.

[ur-Lord Tedric]

45min timer is your friend.

[High Fist]

45min timer is your friend.

Not when you're attacking.

[Primative1]

Not when you're attacking.

You could with clever use of cavalry, but certainly not in a siege against decent opposition.

[Agapios]

Guys, I meant in-game tight battles

[Alavaria]

You can't kill a full stack with that kind of timer.

[High Fist]

Yeah. Whatcha mean?

[Agapios]

Yeah. Whatcha mean?

I mean let's get back to the topic, which is in-game battles, not forum battles
Sure, I'm also interested in how long a battle takes, but my main interest in this thread is how often people get tight results. This is also a sign of how balanced the mod is, if you like, and this is just one aspect of the matter. For example, as another aspect, people can, if they want, share their individual strategic skills that led to that tight result or bugs their encountered during the process.
Anyway, for me is an intriguing subject, that's why I started the thread

[Alavaria]

I mean let's get back to the topic, which is in-game battles, not forum battles
Sure, I'm also interested in how long a battle takes, but my main interest in this thread is how often people get tight results. This is also a sign of how balanced the mod is, if you like, and this is just one aspect of the matter. For example, as another aspect, people can, if they want, share their individual strategic skills that led to that tight result or bugs their encountered during the process.
Anyway, for me is an intriguing subject, that's why I started the thread

An interesting question. As far as possible, I try to fight in the field enemies no larger than half my size in terms of units. It is very risky otherwise in the way I play. Victory not necessarily that hard with full stack fights, but high likelihood to be very costly. AI can afford to throw away thousands of men, a few hundred here and there for the player leads to trouble.

Now the safest, probably most efficient way is to forgo field battles, and concentrate on settlements (which you have to take anyway). You usually have to decide if you will siege or try artillery - the latter slows you down and will need some preparation, and does not help a lot in the case of Stone Walls, and in general if the enemy already has a massive army inside. A fairly empty settlement, however, will magic up a garrison script if you let it.

Fortunately, even the most massive, most elite hardcore garrison script spawns are easy to deal with. On stone walls with ladders especially, wooden walls are probably the hardest. An unwalled settlement is somewhere in between those. An ideal way to deal with Romans, by the way. Also, note that most important big cities such as capitals have stone walls, and are frequently already heavily garrisoned, so sieging for the ladders helps.


Siege attacks take a long time, frequently the issue of (in my case, 2 hour) CTDs due to the RTW memory leak can be an issue. Especially if you are slowly chewing through unit after unit of godly soldiers in narrow streets. I just used a tool that lets me allocate RTW more memory, so it is stable for at least 4 hours, problem is presumably still there, but even a full stack can be safely executed within that time.

[Quincunx]

...I just used a tool that lets me allocate RTW more memory, so it is stable for at least 4 hours, problem is presumably still there, but even a full stack can be safely executed within that time.

Stone walls and Greeks mean a long slog for me. Would you tell us what that tool is?

[Alavaria]

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[Primative1]

Tightest battle I had was my 3000+ Legion and auxilias vs 2 stacks, 5000+, of mostly elite Dacians.

Their first stack ate thru my aux heavies in a couple of minutes and chewed out my cohortes rather badly.

When the second stack showed up I thought I was going to lose.

I shaded it by repeatedly charging my heavy cavalry into their engaged rear and routing them.

Lost about 1800 troops.

[High Fist]

Haha, that's just discussion. We're all friends here.

[century x]

Oh man where do I begin.

Full Roman Legion Vs. Two Boii Full stacks.
Luckly they were attaching and I was defending. I setup my legion in the best defense formation I could do and just wait for the onslaught. I used hammer and anvil tactics to decimate the first stack but I had to grind it out for the second stack. I lost over 2000 men but the other 2000 survived the field.

I have no pictures cause I took none.


I did another battle where I was in the final stages of my Macedonian Invasion and I was about to take their capital. Where at the right moment the King of Macedon personally led an elite army against a medium experienced legion. Not only did I got my butt slaughtered I nearly lost the battle. I walked away with only 500 men left in the legion but I killed the king and his army. After that battle the invasion was over and I took the capital....

Oh do I love RS

[Primative1]

Great fun innit?

Only EB ever gave me the frights like RS2.

I'm about to invade Dacia with 3 Legions. Still not totally confident.

[Euenus]

Playing as the Romans on Medium when I surrounded about 300 rebel roman soldiers with 3 full stacks of my army and attacked on autocomplete... Those 300 killed.. what?... 7000? I almost lost.

Point -- Roman soldiers are WAY TOO OVERPOWERED on autocomplete! I can't even autocomplete against Romans in my games! When I have to siege a full stack city? I have to auto_win attacker or I'll never get it since the timer would run out if I did it manually.