Australian Broadcaster ABC "Not Patriotic Enough", says Australian PM
Interesting stuff. Apparently ABC plays on "everyone's team, but Australia's", according to Tony Abbott, Australian Prime Minister. It seems like the reason for this chiding is ABC's coverage of the secrecy surrounding government's handling of immigrants as well as latest revelation about Australian spying efforts on Indonesia.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25925312
Does he have a point? Should national broadcasters be more "patriotic" and tow the line more? Discuss.
Re: Australian Broadcaster ABC "Not Patriotic Enough", says Australian PM
isnt patriotism wanting your country better through criticizing their (stupid or not) policies? They just want a country of lambs?
Re: Australian Broadcaster ABC "Not Patriotic Enough", says Australian PM
I will go out on the limb here and suggest that any government would prefer a society of lambs. It's much more convenient.
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Your Queen would be gladful if ABC produces more pro-monarchy document.
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Re: Australian Broadcaster ABC "Not Patriotic Enough", says Australian PM
The ABC is the home of lefto pinko commos. My uncle's second wife is very senior in the ABC, and was at a meeting one time when she referred to her husband. The chair of the meeting said 'No I am sorry, we refer to 'partners' here, not gender specific terms like husband or wife.' She then continued and said 'As I was saying, my HUSBAND!'.....
They sat on the spying allegations by ASIO of Indonesia with the connivance of the Guardian to make sure that they were not released in the lead up to the election, because they would be damaging to their favourite party, the Labor Party, in its bid for re-election. Then what do you know, straight after the right wingers were elected - they release the damaging spying allegations. They appear to have sat on this story for 6 months. That is the ideological battle you are up against as a conservative. What is getting a lot of support within the party is to sell the ABC. Let them actually have to work for a living in the private sector and see if they can still get away with their ideological warfare against the right.
That's why he is saying the ABC is on anyone's side except ours. They are very much run by old guard socialists who see the conservatives as the devil incarnate. The latest thing is these asylum seekers who are given airtime to air their allegations that the Royal Australian Navy tortured them by forcing them to put their hands on hot engine parts. The Navy might be many things, but jesus h on a pushbike - Australia naval officers torturing asylum seekers? I mean it's not like they have any useful information to give us....
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C'mon dude, keep it real. You're sounding a bit unreasonable here.
This is what the Cool Story Bro meme was made for, you do realise that mate?My uncle's second wife is very senior in the ABC, and was at a meeting one time when she referred to her husband. The chair of the meeting said 'No I am sorry, we refer to 'partners' here, not gender specific terms like husband or wife.' She then continued and said 'As I was saying, my HUSBAND!'.....
That wouldn't work very well for a national broadcaster.What is getting a lot of support within the party is to sell the ABC. Let them actually have to work for a living in the private sector and see if they can still get away with their ideological warfare against the right.
Conservatives', you mean?That's why he is saying the ABC is on anyone's side except ours.
Don't suppose you have any links? Interesting stuff. Also, you seem surprised that employees of a public sector body swing towards the left in their sympathies. Really?They are very much run by old guard socialists who see the conservatives as the devil incarnate. The latest thing is these asylum seekers who are given airtime to air their allegations that the Royal Australian Navy tortured them by forcing them to put their hands on hot engine parts. The Navy might be many things, but jesus h on a pushbike - Australia naval officers torturing asylum seekers? I mean it's not like they have any useful information to give us....
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In the basement they hide the pedophiliaco drugaddicto terroristos .
And she got fired for speaking in all caps, right?
Praeses
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No, you just described the conservative leadership.
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These types of organizations tend to attract the more liberal minded, and as long as they report the truth in a non-partisan manner, and if the matter doesn't have a direct effect on national security, it should be alright. Unless the owner has an agenda to promote, like Fox News and Russia today.
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I object one of them has an agenda , the other is just lunacy
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Re: Australian Broadcaster ABC "Not Patriotic Enough", says Australian PM
Absolutely not. A national broadcaster isn't a government mouthpiece. ABC director Mark Scott was quite right to stand by the story and the ABC's right to publish it. The government would howl to all hell if the ABC decided not to publish this story if the previous government was still in power. The ABC enjoys a lot of trust from the Australian public.
source is an Essential poll quoted from here. It's not just a fluke peak either, the ABC consistently performs well in measures of public trust. That must be the result of ideological warfare... yep. Speaking of ideological warfare, did anyone read Murdoch's Daily Tele during the last election? Because they weren't partisan, nope. It's a terriblly hard time being a conservative and having to deal with a media populated by those damn lefties.
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What? No Hitler! The anglospheric press is slipping......
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Praeses
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Another argument for the complete privatization of the broadcasting sector.
lol, was thinking the same thing. Perhaps they could profit from cooperation with Der Spiegel...
Triggering
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Fox is the most trusted news source over all in the US, so I'll just throw that out there
"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
Comrade Natascha
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Does that say something about Fox or the ones who were asked?Fox is the most trusted news source over all in the US, so I'll just throw that out there
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Praeses
Re: Australian Broadcaster ABC "Not Patriotic Enough", says Australian PM
I guess it says something about the value of such polls.Does that say something about Fox or the ones who were asked?
Comrade Natascha
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Or the media situation in general, perhaps.
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Actually, PBS is most trusted, by a pretty wide margin. Fox is the least trusted in actual fact. However, 41% said they trusted Fox, so at least 41% of those polled were pretty damn stupid.Fox is the most trusted news source over all in the US, so I'll just throw that out there
Triggering
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I trust Fox more than CNN or MSNBC and I have testing to prove I'm not stupid.
Fox is the most trusted national TV news source, PBS is higher on over all polls but no one watches it. See the way this works out is republicans only trust fox and democrats trust anything but Fox. My comment is that saying what is the most trusted as if it means anything in terms of the validity of their reporting is a poor method to determine truth.
"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
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lol why? I can understand not trusting any of them, but treating fox as somehow more trustworthy seems pretty damn stupid. Its just different colored crap. Hence my original statement.
Yea I got the meaning of the comment. But according to the polls, Fox is not the most trusted. This is just extrapolation, but I think just cos ppl don't watch PBS doesn't mean they don't trust it. I mean, it had the lowest amount of ppl specifically saying they didn't trust it, by pretty much the same margin.Fox is the most trusted national TV news source, PBS is higher on over all polls but no one watches it. See the way this works out is republicans only trust fox and democrats trust anything but Fox. My comment is that saying what is the most trusted as if it means anything in terms of the validity of their reporting is a poor method to determine truth.
Its just semantics on that comment tho so whatevs. Difference between "most trusted" and "trusted by most ppl".
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