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    Default Sweboz Reform..what does it do?

    Anyone ever got to 190BC and had Sweboz reform (Druhtitīdiz)? I can't seem to find any detailed information about it.

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    Default Re: Sweboz Reform..what does it do?

    I have. While I don't remember the details, it lets you get access to the top tiers of Germania, the Thegnoz Drugule and the Germanic Horse companions.
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    Default Re: Sweboz Reform..what does it do?

    As far as I know it adds heavy infantry and heavy cavalry to Sweboz.

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    Who are called Thegnoz Drugule (Mercenary Thanes) and Companion Cavalry.
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    It actually adds three units: heavy infantry, which are called Dreugolozez Brunjadoi by the way, a pike unit and heavy cavalry.

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    Default Re: Sweboz Reform..what does it do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seleukos_I. View Post
    It actually adds three units: heavy infantry, which are called Dreugolozez Brunjadoi by the way, a pike unit and heavy cavalry.
    What I said. Besides, you should read the Sweboz unit list on http://www.europabarbarorum.com/fact...boz_units.html
    They are called Thegnoz Drugule there. Still, it doesn't matter. Their companions cavalry is better than the Gallic companions right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ownager View Post
    They are called Thegnoz Drugule there.
    Around 95% sure they aren't called that in-game, though, and Heimstatt gives the other name.

    Their companions cavalry is better than the Gallic companions right?
    Yes, but their stats are slightly different from the Remi Mairepos; the Mairepos have 2 better Skill, the Xosenthozez have +1 Attack for each weapon. Generally speaking, I'd call the Xosenthozez better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entropy Judge View Post
    Around 95% sure they aren't called that in-game, though, and Heimstatt gives the other name.

    Mercenary Thanes sound cooler. (Too much skyrim)

    Yes, but their stats are slightly different from the Remi Mairepos; the Mairepos have 2 better Skill, the Xosenthozez have +1 Attack for each weapon. Generally speaking, I'd call the Xosenthozez better.
    Buuuuut, Remi Mairepos are Belgic cavalry right? I'm talking about the Brihentin. Also, how do you get the Sweboz infant bodyguards to use their longswords when charging?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ownager View Post
    What I said. Besides, you should read the Sweboz unit list on http://www.europabarbarorum.com/fact...boz_units.html
    They are called Thegnoz Drugule there.
    The names in the lists (e.g. Heimstatt and game website) were never updated. In-game (version 1.2, i.e. the latest patch), they are called Dreugulozez Brunjadoi and Xosenthozez Marxoreidondijoi.


    Their companions cavalry is better than the Gallic companions right?
    Yes but unlike the Brihentin and the Remi cavalry, their weapon can't be upgraded by a blacksmith. Which accounts for the higher attack volume. Technically speaking, they are almost tied with the Remi, with the latter being perhaps a tiny bit better (when upgraded), however Remi Mairepos are only available in one province, and only to the three Celtic factions. The Germanic version has a better AoR.


    Buuuuut, Remi Mairepos are Belgic cavalry right? I'm talking about the Brihentin.
    Brihentin are the weakest of the three, having "only" 13 morale instead of 16, and slightly lower skill values. However, they have the best AoR of the three units and are available to outside factions (Rome, Carthage, Lusotannan) as well as to the Celts.
    Not to Swęboz, though (if you need to look it up, my Swęboz guide contains a complete list of Celtic units you can recruit on the mainland - edit: Seems I left out the Leuce Epos there. fail).


    Also, how do you get the Sweboz infant bodyguards to use their longswords when charging?
    You can't. Infantry always charge with their secondary weapons. It's what prompted the unfortunate decision to switch around the weapons for a whole class of heavy infantry - Swęboz BG, Swęboz heavies, Solduros, Rycalawre, Hypaspistai, Baktrion Agema, Indohellenic Nobles, Agema Hellenikon, Ischyroi Orditon, and probably one or two others that I forgot about.
    If you want them to use the swords in combat, use simple right click (alt+right click will bring out the spears).

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    Default Re: Sweboz Reform..what does it do?

    Ohhhhh. I can't believe I've been doing it wrong all this time. Alt right click is what I do every time... I've noticed that with Makedons Hypaspists, but they also used their swords to absorb enemy cavalry attacks. I thought that was how they were, but I guess now you just have to alt right click?
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