Wtf is a Cheiroballistra?

**Mackles** · January 08, 2014, 04:23 PM

Basically, I'm not sure if tiredness is making me stupid, but I don't remember seeing these guys in the game before? Ever? Yet nearly every faction has a reference for them in the land_units table. What are they?

**MathiasOfAthens** · January 08, 2014, 04:42 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheiroballistra

**Mackles** · January 08, 2014, 05:00 PM

Cheers Mathias, although I was kind of thinking more in Rome II terms!

**rob-a-dogg** · January 08, 2014, 05:22 PM

Its the Scorpion siege engine

**Mackles** · January 08, 2014, 05:32 PM

The scorpion has it's own entry, or is this the fixed version?

**General George S. Patton** · January 08, 2014, 05:34 PM

It was in rome 1 as a chariot mounted ballista...

**crzyrndm** · January 08, 2014, 05:42 PM

Cheiroballistra are the movable scorpions, scorpion is the fixed version (art_fix/art_fld class in land_units)

**rob-a-dogg** · January 08, 2014, 05:46 PM

Nope, in the units db the 'cheirobalista' is the scorpion. I am quite certain about this having fiddled with it recently (specifically the number of guns per unit column). There is no 'scorpion' unit in the dbs, other then the in game text part which relabels the cheiro unit as scorpion.

**Mackles** · January 08, 2014, 05:50 PM

In the land_units table, within the first 21 entries you have references to "Afr_Cheiroballistra", "Afr_Scorpion" and "Afr_Scorpion_Bastion". Same for nearly every other faction, thanks to CA uber-balanced approach to giving everyone god-like artillery. Either way, cheers to all! One or the other is the fixed version and movable version. Testing to find out which