Put the explosion in bombs

[Apani]

Currently, bombs behave like molotov cocktails: burn alive what they hit.
So I've given a few edits to bomb to make them explode and damage more than just one soldier.

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It's way more destructive, and soldiers even get flung into the air.

To apply it, open descr_projectile.txt in your HTW/Data directory and overwrite the entry "projectile nahptha_bomb" with this:

projectile nahptha_bomb

effect                    nahptha_bomb_projectile_set
end_effect                ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_man_effect            ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_package_effect        ground_impact_wall_explosion_culvern_set
end_shatter_effect        ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_shatter_man_effect        ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_shatter_package_effect        ground_impact_wall_explosion_culvern_set

area_effect                ae_cannon_shot_large
damage        250
damage_to_troops    0
radius        0.3
mass        0.05
area        25.0
accuracy_vs_units        0.025
min_angle    -60
max_angle    70
velocity    30
ground_shatter
bounce            0.5 0.6 0.5 0.4
display        aimed
effect_only

If you want to have Dodoblins blow themselves up, you can add this entry on Descr_Projectile and change Suicide Blins' ammo type to peasant_bomb in Export_Descr_Unit.

projectile peasant_bomb

effect                    nahptha_bomb_projectile_set
end_effect                ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_man_effect            ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_package_effect        ground_impact_wall_explosion_culvern_set
end_shatter_effect        ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_shatter_man_effect        ground_impact_explosion_culvern_set
end_shatter_package_effect        ground_impact_wall_explosion_culvern_set

area_effect                ae_cannon_shot_large
damage        250
damage_to_troops    0
radius        0.3
mass        0.05
area        25.0
accuracy_vs_units        1
min_angle    -60
max_angle    70
velocity    30
ground_shatter
bounce            0.5 0.6 0.5 0.4
self_explode    0.25 0 0.000000001 ae_cannon_shot_large
display        aimed
effect_only

Now, some silly CDi references:

[Cameron Shutters]

Great, now the Gorons can be even more OP. But that's not your fault.

Thanks for the fix!

[Lortano]

He's also increased the unit size for them as well....dear god why.

[Apani]

Do not despair, it's just part of the Real Combat rebalancement project. Zora unit sizes have been increased as well. (Zora infantry is 80, Bomb throwers are 40) Gorons are going to be nerfed, nevertheless.

[Lortano]

Indeed, personally I think you should nerf the roll speed slightly, they basically make artillery worthless because it can only get one shot off.

[Apani]

The Gorons already have a 0.8 move speed mod in Vanilla. That said, with my edits Goron Guardians and Berzerkers (the rolling ones) are beaten by Zora Infantry in a direct fight, so you just have to guard your artillery.

[CommyXD26]

Is there a way to change the attack speed of a unit, like slower? You can balance bombs by this way.

[Apani]

Gorons are going to fire about one volley anyways. If all, they should be able to toss more.

[Apani]

I've added an optional ammo type for Suicide Blins, so they should blow themselves up. Anyways, do you think Bomb should be realistic (small area, high damage) or Zelda styled (large area, low damage)?

[Sir Aroun]

I've added an optional ammo type for Suicide Blins, so they should blow themselves up. Anyways, do you think Bomb should be realistic (small area, high damage) or Zelda styled (large area, low damage)?

Zelda styled (it is a zelda game after all) but make the bombs stun enemies too (like ice arrows do).

[Apani]

Ice arrows stun enemies? It doesn't seem so.

[Sir Aroun]

Ice arrows stun enemies? It doesn't seem so.

They are suppose to, and seen to do so in this video:

[Apani]

Nah, I think that was just general clumsiness on the Vanguards' part.

[Sir Aroun]

Nah, I think that was just general clumsiness on the Vanguards' part.

well the point stands that there suppose to stun and I thing bombs should to.

[Apani]

I don't there is any mean to add a stun effect, besides soldiers flinching when they get hit by arrows, but I guess that being thrown into the ground and taking some time to get back up, as usual with explosion, is close enough to getting stunned.

[Sir Aroun]

I don't there is any mean to add a stun effect, besides soldiers flinching when they get hit by arrows, but I guess that being thrown into the ground and taking some time to get back up, as usual with explosion, is close enough to getting stunned.

that will work, does mean you will have to fix the ice arrows or are they good as is?

[Apani]

As it seems, the closest thing Ice Arrows have to slowing down enemies is the body_piercing tag (which allows arrows to pass throught multiple men like ballista bolts). Anyways, I'd like to change the Ice arrows in a way that they explode and hit enemies with ice shards, like grapple shots, that'd be awesome.

Anyways, as for now I added an invisible explosion triggered by Ice arrows's landing large enough to stun the entire targeted unit; while Ice Archers have lower firepower to due to inferior numbers and accuracy, they prove an excellent support to Dune Archers: together they managed to stunlock an oncoming unit of Ruby Guards until they run out of arrows, bringing them from 80 to 20.