Best tank unit

**Ismael75** · October 01, 2006, 06:59 PM

what is the best "tank" unit on darth mod 8.1 in your opinion?
i like spartan hoplites but i can't decide between theses ones and greek sacred band or madedonian uber pikemen.
sure roman legionaries seems to be the best but i hate romans and i like to crush them

anyway if you can give me any argues to make my choice i would be happy to hear it.
anyway if you had to make a choice between greek, macedon and seleucid faction, what would you choose and why (only looking at troops and battle optimisation)

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**DARTH VADER** · October 02, 2006, 08:53 AM

Spartan Hoplites = Powerful, unparalleled but..slow and quite obsolete for the era. If they get resiliently attacked from behind.... they return upon their shields.

Carthaginian Sacred Band = quite similar to Spartans, but cannot be compared generally..more cost effective.

GoldenShield guards = are very rare and expensive but trully a powerful unit which provokes fear to the enemy as well.

The Late Legionary 1st cohort = the best balance of power and maneuvrability.

Armoured Elephants = a real tank unit

If you want the most complete and powerful roster in DarthMod choose the Seleucids...they are unmatched, wealthy, cover all troop types and also fools that historically they did not last!(A common hellenic feature of war among brothers...)

**Aleric** · October 25, 2006, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by DARTH VADER

GoldenShield guards = are very rare and expensive but trully a powerful unit which provokes fear to the enemy as well.

They belong to seleucid?

**Shamo** · October 02, 2006, 10:03 PM

[/QUOTE]Armoured Elephants = a real tank unit

If you want the most complete and powerful roster in DarthMod choose the Seleucids...they are unmatched, wealthy, cover all troop types and also fools that historically they did not last!(A common hellenic feature of war among brothers...)
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totaly agreed to Darth
the best "tank", my choice is Amoured Elephant,super heavy , super charge & hitpoint, invulnerable to missile, allow infantry's co-operation, that's what u call a "tank"
i used to think elephant vs phanlanx is suicidal, but no, amoured elephant can almost run over every phalanx, even the spartan !!!
and same to Darth, i really wonder why the Seulecid lost to the Samanid (--)???

**DARTH VADER** · October 03, 2006, 05:22 PM

But also elephants can be easily overrun if they are unsupported. Skirmishers are surprisingly effective against them.

**Vagabond** · October 25, 2006, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by DARTH VADER

But also elephants can be easily overrun if they are unsupported. Skirmishers are surprisingly effective against them.

but u can't kill them with skirmishers , it's AMOURED ,i could only scared them by using flaming missles, then it's worse, it went amok and overun everything, damn, i once lost half of my mens due to that
once i almost won , just ONE of that damn animal went amok and running all over the map , my mens were exhauted , i had to charge 2500 mens to kill this one motherf... animal, and what outcome ? , it killed over 700 before i decided to take the risk ,charged & killed it by the general , fortunately, it died, if my general died, who knows then

**Achilleus** · October 26, 2006, 03:14 AM

I ignored my Armoured Elephants for a minute while I was dealing with a problem on my right flank vs the Romans only to find I had lost 4 or 5 when I got back to Ballista fire.

**Panzerfaust** · October 25, 2006, 10:05 AM

The unit Seleucid misses are armoured archers, so I have to say Carthage got a more complete army

**Vagabond** · October 25, 2006, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Panzerfaust

The unit Seleucid misses are armoured archers, so I have to say Carthage got a more complete army

hm , u can hire Syrian archer, their amour is 9, even better than some of swordmans
and it's not very hard to find them in the seleucid's mainland

**DARTH VADER** · October 25, 2006, 02:23 PM

Yes Carthage has the most complete army but very expensive in contradiction. But hopefully Carthage's economics handle.

The golden shield guards are a speculative unit of Greek_cities available in large temple of Nike. If greeks survive Roman onslaught can build this unit which is quite impressive since it has the most armour of all hoplites in the game and provokes fear. But they are not so able to defend themselves due to heavy armour.
Imagine them smth like terminators...just standing and receiving hits and not being killed.

**DARTH VADER** · October 26, 2006, 03:22 AM

@Vagabond: Probably in another mod than DarthMod this you say bcs in DarthMod....elephants do not amok!

**Tankbuster** · October 26, 2006, 01:13 PM

LMAO
You can't rout elephants... uh-uh

I learn every day

**DARTH VADER** · October 26, 2006, 01:48 PM

You rout but cannot ammok them. They withdraw and cause havoc to friendly units but just that. CA had this bugged and elephants were fire and forget missiles.