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    Icon5 Upgrading PC questions?

    Hi all, I'm looking to upgrade my cpu and my graphics card and I'm rather clueless about most things regarding pc hardware. I got a "AMD A8-6500 Richland 4.1GHz Socket FM2 65W Quad-Core Desktop Processor AMD Radeon HD" processor for christmas today and I went to install it and didn't realize that amd products were incompatible with an intel motherboard if that's the right term?

    I can play battles with a decent fps and settings at high and very high, but it lags quite a bit if there's a bunch of units fighting in a gate or the like. What would allow me to play Rome II with most if not all settings on very high or even extreme settings and have smooth fps in battles and the campaign map? I can play Shogun II with mostly everything on ultra expect for things like Shadows and particle effects on ultra.

    I guess my questions are what would be a good upgrade for my cpu and lesser extent graphics card and would it be easier hypothetically to just upgrade my computer? I don't have much cash so which of the two is the best to upgrade if I had to pick one between the cpu and graphics card?

    Thanks in advance

    Here are my specs:

    System Information
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    Time of this report: 12/25/2013, 16:52:09
    Machine name: SHANANSHAH
    Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
    System Model: Inspiron 580
    BIOS: Default System BIOS
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
    Memory: 6144MB RAM
    Available OS Memory: 6008MB RAM
    Page File: 2156MB used, 9855MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
    System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
    DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode
    DxDiag Previously: Crashed in Direct3D (stage 2). Re-running DxDiag with "dontskip" command line parameter or choosing not to bypass information gathering when prompted might result in DxDiag successfully obtaining this information

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    DxDiag Notes
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    Display Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.

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    DirectX Debug Levels
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    Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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    Display Devices
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    Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5450
    Manufacturer:
    Chip type:
    DAC type:
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_010E1028&REV_00
    Display Memory:
    Dedicated Memory: n/a
    Shared Memory: n/a
    Current Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor Name: DELL IN1920(Analog)
    Monitor Model:
    Monitor Id:
    Native Mode:
    Output Type:
    Driver Name:
    Driver File Version: ()
    Driver Version:
    DDI Version:
    Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: , 0 bytes
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
    Device Identifier:
    Vendor ID:
    Device ID:
    SubSys ID:
    Revision ID:
    Driver Strong Name: oem70.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_EvergreenC:8.740.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_68f9&subsys_010e1028
    Rank Of Driver: 00E60001
    Video Accel:
    Deinterlace Caps: n/a
    D3D9 Overlay:
    DXVA-HD:
    DDraw Status: Disabled
    D3D Status: Not Available
    AGP Status: Not Available

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    Sound Devices
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    Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
    Default Sound Playback: Yes
    Default Voice Playback: Yes
    Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0887&SUBSYS_10280438&REV_1002
    Manufacturer ID: 1
    Product ID: 100
    Type: WDM
    Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
    Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6043 (English)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    Date and Size: 2/8/2010 21:24:56, 2267552 bytes
    Other Files:
    Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    HW Accel Level: Basic
    Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
    Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
    Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
    HW Memory: 0
    Voice Management: No
    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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    Sound Capture Devices
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    DirectInput Devices
    -------------------
    Device Name: Mouse
    Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Device Name: Keyboard
    Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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    USB Devices
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    + USB Root Hub
    | Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x3B34
    | Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub20
    | Service: usbhub
    | Driver: usbhub.sys, 9/4/2013 07:12:11, 343040 bytes
    | Driver: usbd.sys, 9/4/2013 07:11:40, 7808 bytes
    |
    +-+ Generic USB Hub
    | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x8087, 0x0020
    | | Location: Port_#0001.Hub_#0002
    | | Matching Device ID: usb\class_09
    | | Service: usbhub
    | | Driver: usbhub.sys, 9/4/2013 07:12:11, 343040 bytes

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    Gameport Devices
    ----------------

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    PS/2 Devices
    ------------
    + HID Keyboard Device
    | Vendor/Product ID: 0x413C, 0x2107
    | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
    | Service: kbdhid
    | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 05:33:25, 33280 bytes
    | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 20:48:04, 50768 bytes
    |
    + Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
    | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
    | Upper Filters: kbdclass
    | Service: TermDD
    | Driver: i8042prt.sys, 7/13/2009 18:19:57, 105472 bytes
    | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 20:48:04, 50768 bytes
    |
    + HID-compliant mouse
    | Vendor/Product ID: 0x0461, 0x4D81
    | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
    | Service: mouhid
    | Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 19:00:20, 31232 bytes
    | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 20:48:27, 49216 bytes
    |
    + Terminal Server Mouse Driver
    | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
    | Upper Filters: mouclass
    | Service: TermDD
    | Driver: termdd.sys, 11/20/2010 08:33:57, 63360 bytes
    | Driver: sermouse.sys, 7/13/2009 19:00:20, 26624 bytes
    | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 20:48:27, 49216 bytes

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    Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
    ------------------------
    Drive: C:
    Free Space: 712.7 GB
    Total Space: 942.1 GB
    File System: NTFS
    Model: WDC WD1001FAES-75W7A0 ATA Device

    Drive: D:
    Model: HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH50N ATA Device
    Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 04:19:21, 147456 bytes

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    System Devices
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    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 3B4A
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B4A&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&E4
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 08:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) processor PCI Express Root Port - 0041
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0041&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_18\3&11583659&0&08
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 08:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 3B42
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B42&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&E0
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 08:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) processor DRAM Controller - 0040
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0040&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_18\3&11583659&0&00
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B3C
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B3C&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&D0
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.18251 (English), 9/4/2013 07:11:43, 52736 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.18251 (English), 9/4/2013 07:11:51, 325120 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.18251 (English), 9/4/2013 07:12:11, 343040 bytes

    Name: DW1525 (802.11n) WLAN PCIe Card
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_168C&DEV_002A&SUBSYS_0203168C&REV_01\4&149856BC&0&00E4
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\athrx.sys, 8.00.0000.0239 (English), 10/24/2009 01:49:46, 1542656 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vwifibus.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 19:07:21, 24576 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B34
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B34&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&E8
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.18251 (English), 9/4/2013 07:11:43, 52736 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.18251 (English), 9/4/2013 07:11:51, 325120 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.18251 (English), 9/4/2013 07:12:11, 343040 bytes

    Name: Broadcom NetLink (TM) Gigabit Ethernet
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_1691&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_01\4&3699D3AB&0&00E5
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller - 3B30
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B30&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&FB
    Driver: n/a

    Name: High Definition Audio Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA68&SUBSYS_AA681028&REV_00\4&21E9945B&0&0108
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:43:43, 122368 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B64&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&B0
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 3B20
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B20&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&FA
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 20:45:45, 12352 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 20:45:46, 48720 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 20:52:21, 24128 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.01.7601.18231 (English), 8/4/2013 21:25:45, 155584 bytes

    Name: ATI Radeon HD 5450
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_010E1028&REV_00\4&21E9945B&0&0008
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys, 8.01.0001.1038 (English), 5/17/2010 21:35:30, 6853632 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0019 (English), 5/17/2010 20:29:02, 53248 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmpag.sys, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:30:28, 263680 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd64.dll, 8.14.0010.0761 (English), 5/17/2010 20:37:02, 4917248 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd6a.dll, 8.14.0010.0263 (English), 5/17/2010 20:44:10, 2753536 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atitmm64.dll, 6.14.0011.0022 (English), 5/17/2010 21:02:58, 120320 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 4/6/2010 16:54:32, 203336 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\amdpcom64.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 5/17/2010 20:28:02, 54272 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atimpc64.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 5/17/2010 20:28:02, 54272 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiadlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.1054 (English), 5/17/2010 20:30:56, 335872 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd6a.cap, 5/17/2010 20:41:48, 534960 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atimuixx.dll, 6.14.0010.1001 (English), 5/17/2010 21:02:22, 12288 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiapfxx.exe, 6.14.0010.1001 (English), 5/17/2010 21:07:10, 143360 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiapfxx.blb, 5/17/2010 21:07:18, 57192 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiesrxx.exe, 6.14.0011.1059 (English), 5/17/2010 21:03:54, 203264 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atieclxx.exe, 6.14.0011.1059 (English), 5/17/2010 21:04:24, 458752 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atipdl64.dll, 6.14.0010.2562 (English), 5/17/2010 21:02:40, 421376 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiedu64.dll, 6.14.0010.2514 (English), 5/17/2010 21:02:20, 59392 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIDEMGX.dll, 2.00.3789.30736 (English), 5/17/2010 21:04:34, 446464 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atio6axx.dll, 6.14.0010.9896 (English), 5/17/2010 21:27:58, 19892224 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticaldd64.dll, 6.14.0010.0696 (English), 5/17/2010 20:41:10, 5268480 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticalrt64.dll, 6.14.0010.0696 (English), 5/17/2010 20:41:24, 43008 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticalcl64.dll, 6.14.0010.0696 (English), 5/17/2010 20:41:18, 39936 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atipblag.dat, 4/29/2010 14:37:28, 2137 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiu9p64.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:29:42, 30208 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiuxp64.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:29:52, 38912 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atig6pxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:30:38, 14848 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atig6txx.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:30:32, 18432 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atibtmon.exe, 2.00.0000.0000 (English), 4/10/2013 10:34:24, 118784 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atidxx64.dll, 8.17.0010.0286 (English), 5/17/2010 20:51:40, 4293120 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdag.dll, 8.14.0010.0761 (English), 5/17/2010 20:42:34, 3798528 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdva.dll, 8.14.0010.0263 (English), 5/17/2010 20:38:44, 3025920 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\amdpcom32.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 5/17/2010 20:27:58, 52224 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atimpc32.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 5/17/2010 20:27:58, 52224 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiadlxy.dll, 6.14.0010.1054 (English), 5/17/2010 20:30:48, 237568 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdva.cap, 5/17/2010 20:38:20, 534960 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2562 (English), 5/17/2010 21:02:36, 356352 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Oemdspif.dll, 6.15.0006.0006 (English), 5/17/2010 21:02:26, 278528 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2514 (English), 5/17/2010 21:02:14, 43520 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.9896 (English), 5/17/2010 21:07:48, 15171584 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atidxx32.dll, 8.17.0010.0286 (English), 5/17/2010 20:59:44, 3667456 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticaldd.dll, 6.14.0010.0696 (English), 5/17/2010 20:40:06, 4100096 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticalrt.dll, 6.14.0010.0696 (English), 5/17/2010 20:41:24, 53248 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticalcl.dll, 6.14.0010.0696 (English), 5/17/2010 20:41:16, 53248 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atipblag.dat, 4/29/2010 14:37:28, 2137 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiu9pag.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:29:36, 22528 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiuxpag.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:29:48, 30208 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atigktxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:30:30, 16896 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiglpxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:30:36, 12800 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\atiogl.xml, 5/4/2010 17:35:40, 21360 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIODCLI.exe, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 2/3/2009 18:52:08, 51200 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIODE.exe, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 2/18/2009 15:55:24, 332288 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiglpxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6117 (English), 5/17/2010 20:30:36, 12800 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticfx64.dll, 8.17.0010.0029 (English), 5/17/2010 21:06:18, 591872 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticfx32.dll, 8.17.0010.0029 (English), 5/17/2010 21:07:00, 510976 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\coinst.dll, 1.00.0002.0001 (English), 5/17/2010 20:39:28, 55296 bytes

    Name: High Definition Audio Controller
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B56&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&D8
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:43:43, 122368 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) H57 Express Chipset LPC Interface Controller - 3B08
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B08&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&F8
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 20:48:27, 15424 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 3B4C
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B4C&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_06\3&11583659&0&E5
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 08:33:48, 184704 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_04381028&REV_A6\3&11583659&0&F0
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 08:33:48, 184704 bytes

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    DirectShow Filters
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    DirectShow Filters:
    WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
    WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
    WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
    MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.18221
    Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
    Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
    AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,12.00.9200.16426
    AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
    StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Microsoft TV Captions Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.01.7601.17715
    MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    CBVA DMO wrapper filter,0x00200000,1,1,cbva.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    ATI MPEG File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    AMD Video Decoder,0x00200000,1,2,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
    Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    ATI MPEG Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    AMD MJPEG Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,
    Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    AMD Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    DivX Decoder Filter,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDec.ax,7.01.0001.0014
    ATI MPEG Multiplexer,0x00200000,2,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
    VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    AMD Video Scaler Filter,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17835
    Microsoft TV Subtitles Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.01.7601.17715
    Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,
    RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
    Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
    DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.18175
    Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.18175
    MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,
    AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    NetBridge,0x00200000,2,0,netbridge.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    AMD Video Rotation Filter,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
    StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Media Center Extender Encryption Filter,0x00200000,2,2,Mcx2Filter.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
    AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
    SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
    Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
    BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
    MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
    Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

    Video Compressors:
    WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
    DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
    MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    Audio Compressors:
    WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
    WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
    ATI MPEG Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31029
    IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    PBDA CP Filters:
    PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
    PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

    Midi Renderers:
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    Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

    WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
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    Realtek HD Audio Line input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    Realtek HD Audio Mic input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
    Realtek HD Audio Stereo input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

    WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
    Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

    BDA Network Providers:
    Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
    Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

    Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
    VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

    BDA Transport Information Renderers:
    BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
    MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

    BDA CP/CA Filters:
    Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
    Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
    PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
    XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708

    WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
    Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

    Audio Renderers:
    Speakers (Realtek High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
    DirectSound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

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    Enabled:
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    Allow scaling
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    Enabled:
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    Allow batching
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    PowerFlags: 1424
    Enabled:
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    Decode Power Usage: 0

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    Default Re: Upgrading PC questions?

    anyone?

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    Default Re: Upgrading PC questions?

    AMD Cpu's are much slower than Intel's CPU. I would suggest a 2500k or 3570 cpu with at least 8 gigs of ram. I prefer the Nvidia graphics cards, i've never liked the ATI's. Go for a 570 or 770 GTX.
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    Default Re: Upgrading PC questions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo View Post
    AMD Cpu's are much slower than Intel's CPU. I would suggest a 2500k or 3570 cpu with at least 8 gigs of ram. I prefer the Nvidia graphics cards, i've never liked the ATI's. Go for a 570 or 770 GTX.
    2500k getting on a bit but it is still good (am still on a 920) so go for cheapest overclockable intel quad.

    and yep 770 is ideal for 1080p res or 1920x1200. 290's are good bang for buck but noisy and hot with stock cooling but aftermarket versions are coming out. mantle is meant to improve perf on certain titles as well.

    we wont know for sure till the end of the month.

    there have been tech issues with the 290 and 290x. i had one on order but decided to wait for Maxwell.

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    Default Re: Upgrading PC questions?

    So you have these specs:
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20GHz http://ark.intel.com/products/43546/...Cache-3_20-ghz
    Motherboard: Custom one by Dell LGA1156
    GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5450 http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...-overview.aspx
    Monitor resolution: 1366 x 768

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Watch42 View Post
    Hi all, I'm looking to upgrade my cpu and my graphics card and I'm rather clueless about most things regarding pc hardware. I got a "AMD A8-6500 Richland 4.1GHz Socket FM2 65W Quad-Core Desktop Processor AMD Radeon HD" processor for christmas today and I went to install it and didn't realize that amd products were incompatible with an intel motherboard if that's the right term?
    Yes, that is the right term, and not only an AMD CPU would not be compatible, but a recent Intel CPU would also not be compatible, your motherboard has an LGA1156 CPU socket and no recent CPU is compatible with it. :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Watch42 View Post
    I can play battles with a decent fps and settings at high and very high, but it lags quite a bit if there's a bunch of units fighting in a gate or the like. What would allow me to play Rome II with most if not all settings on very high or even extreme settings and have smooth fps in battles and the campaign map? I can play Shogun II with mostly everything on ultra expect for things like Shadows and particle effects on ultra.
    A new PC. Or to be more specific, a new CPU, which would require a new Motherboard and also a new Graphics Card, you can keep your case, hard disks, drives, peripherals, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Watch42 View Post
    I guess my questions are what would be a good upgrade for my cpu and lesser extent graphics card and would it be easier hypothetically to just upgrade my computer? I don't have much cash so which of the two is the best to upgrade if I had to pick one between the cpu and graphics card?
    At this point really getting a new PC (or just a new CPU, motherboard and GPU and recycle the rest) would be the sensible option, if this was any other game a new GPU would do the trick, but this is TW, and TW games need a good CPU not to lag in fights and a good GPU for details and such.
    The processor they gave you for christmas is an AMD APU: it is a CPU with a decent integrated GPU, as a CPU it is a bit slower than the one you have, as a GPU it is better than the one you have.

    If you don't know how to build a computer and don't want to learn buying a new PC is pretty much the only option you have.
    If you know how to build a PC or are willing to learn you have a few options, in all of those you'll need to compleatlely reinstall your operating system:
    1. You sell the CPU you got for christmas, you buy a new CPU, a new Motherboard and a new graphics card and rebuild your PC.
    2. You keep the CPU you got for christmas, you buy a new motherboard, compatible with it, if you do it right you will also have extensive upgrade options in the future.


    Buying a new PC is the most expensive option, option 1 is less expensive and it will give you the best results, option 2 is the cheapest, it will allow you to use better graphics options, but it won't remove the lag from big melee fights.

    Pick one of the three options and we can help you with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Watch42 View Post
    Thanks in advance
    You are most welcome.
    Last edited by SamueleD; January 04, 2014 at 04:22 PM.

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