PC Gamer puts Rome 2 on game of the year list.

[lawandorder82]

Rome 2 since patch 8.1 is a very good game the seige ai is a lot better know then empire also every game devloper and movie devloper in this day and age uses false advesting.

[iWarsaw]

Rome 2 since patch 8.1 is a very good game the seige ai is a lot better know then empire also every game devloper and movie devloper in this day and age uses false advesting.

The Siege AI I thought was better... I was having some really good match but now all my sieges are back to pre-8.0. I don't think it's 8.0 as much as I think it's just the AI will never be able to siege into a City. I think the AI is empire broken... IT IS EMPIRE BROKEN. This AI will never get fixed. Every single time it has to run down the same lane, trying to burn down the gates with all its units at once. The AI sometimes gives the illusion it works.

[DeliCiousTZM]

Rome II is playable not broken. Rome,Medieval 2,Empire AI was never really "fixed" and Napoleon and Shogun 2 which worked a lot better were smaller and easier to make functional.

This is just another huge total war game, tbh it has problems yes but for CA and with their trackrecord it is a good game. Rome II launch wasn't as terrible as Empire(All though close) and the patching and support it has gotten since then is remarkable not to mention the good will moves made by CA.

I wan't more patches and more DLC, and I for one wish CA well in the future and hope they will learn from their mistakes as they move forward.

God Jul!

[iWarsaw]

Rome II is playable not broken. Rome,Medieval 2,Empire AI was never really "fixed" and Napoleon and Shogun 2 which worked a lot better were smaller and easier to make functional.

This is just another huge total war game, tbh it has problems yes but for CA and with their trackrecord it is a good game. Rome II launch wasn't as terrible as Empire(All though close) and the patching and support it has gotten since then is remarkable not to mention the good will moves made by CA.

I wan't more patches and more DLC, and I for one wish CA well in the future and hope they will learn from their mistakes as they move forward.

God Jul!

The Free DLC is... it's terrible. People could of just modded it from Macedon. The patchs... they have to patch it. You can't thank them for a patching a game they release unpolished and to early..

I wanted to buy DLC. I love DLC! It's more content. I'm a Fanboy.. well I was... I thought I was... I wanted to throw my money at CA but with the way they released Rome2 no way I'm going to now.

This game isn't broken, but features in the game are broken. This game is so frustrating but yes sometimes it is just so damn fun! I hate how much I hate it but how much i love it too sometimes. UGHGHGHGGUGHGUH

[Fallen851]

This game isn't broken, but features in the game are broken.

This argument is purely a semantic one.

If my leg were broken, does it mean I am broken? I would argue yes as I cannot walk, and walking is a normal and important human function. Arbitrary Crusader would argue no apparently. To him perhaps broken means that a state where I cannot perform any of the things I normally perform (So I'd have to be dead or unconscious). That is fine, but we are splitting hairs here.

The game is "alive", but it's "limbs" (features such as AI, political system, ect) don't function properly. To me, that means the game is broken.

[Arbitrary Crusader]

^
I am ok with this, mostly.

[omzdog]

Multiplayer is near unplayable.
How does it come close to Shogun 2 quality?

[ggggtotalwarrior]

Would you prefer he said a "wholly unenjoyable experience" rather than "unplayable", Arbitrary Crusader? It's basically the same agreement, and one I agree with. The game was a massive disappointment due to broken/reduced features unlike anything they were advertised as. From the viewpoint of requiring enjoyment from a game for it to be playable from a logical sense, then the game is unplayable, as there's no reason to do so.

[Arbitrary Crusader]

Would you prefer he said a "wholly unenjoyable experience" rather than "unplayable", Arbitrary Crusader? It's basically the same agreement, and one I agree with. The game was a massive disappointment due to broken/reduced features unlike anything they were advertised as. From the viewpoint of requiring enjoyment from a game for it to be playable from a logical sense, then the game is unplayable, as there's no reason to do so.

He said the game is broken, it is certainly not.

The game works, and just because a certain aspect sucks, does not mean the ENTIRE game is broken.

I forgot to add : "obvious troll is obvious" ...

Lol, how cute.

When in doubt, insult.

[omzdog]

The game works, and just because a certain aspect sucks, does not mean the ENTIRE game is broken.

The game's broken because the features that do work are fundamentally flawed,
such as siege torches and transport ships.

Thats what we mean when we say 'broken'.
Let alone the features that don't work.

[Arbitrary Crusader]

The game's broken because the features that do work are fundamentally flawed,
such as siege torches and transport ships.

Thats what we mean when we say 'broken'.
Let alone the features that don't work.

Which is different then saying, "broken game is a broken game"

I pay 54.99€ for a" playable " game? Fantastic.

Wtf does has to do with my post?

You're missing the point, anyway

That's exactly what I am arguing. There is too many aspect of the game who "sucks". The vast majority does. That is why the entire game is broken imo.

*Sigh* and I am arguing that the game is playable, despite certain aspects suck.

I get it, siege AI sucks balls and other things, I agree. But, I can still play the game.

[Anna_Gein]

Which is different then saying, "broken game is a broken game"

Except the context is everything during a discussion. I said this in reply to an user who argue that no matter the poor state of the game, R2 must be GOTY it is a TW game. Interpreting that he felt this way because TW is essentially game out here mixing turn based campaign with real time battle, and not for some stupid fan-boy opinion, He think that the poor state of the strategy genre and the lack of innovation from its actors is not a enough to reward R2 of such title as the game is in no better shape than the genre it belongs to.

I am indeed beginning to doubt so I am going to be even more insulting and ask you if you ever understood post you initially reply to as referring to technical aspect like trying to run the game to fail miserably ?

[Anna_Gein]

The game works, and just because a certain aspect sucks, does not mean the ENTIRE game is broken.

That's exactly what I am arguing. There is too many aspect of the game who "sucks" by your own words. The vast majority does. That is why the entire game is broken imo.

[last_name_left]

The game works, and just because a certain aspect sucks, does not mean the ENTIRE game is broken.

Broken - definition:

4.a. Incomplete: a broken set of books.
b. Being in a state of disarray; disordered: troops fleeing in broken ranks.

5.a. Intermittently stopping and starting; discontinuous: a broken cable transmission.
b. Varying abruptly, as in pitch: broken sobs.
c. Spoken with gaps and errors: broken English.

6. Topographically rough; uneven: broken terrain.
7.a. Subdued totally; humbled: a broken spirit.
b. Weakened and infirm: broken health.

[Arbitrary Crusader]

Broken - definition:

From the same site.....

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/broken

10. Not functioning; out of order

[Dontfearme22]

Would you prefer he said a "wholly unenjoyable experience" rather than "unplayable", Arbitrary Crusader? It's basically the same agreement, and one I agree with. The game was a massive disappointment due to broken/reduced features unlike anything they were advertised as. From the viewpoint of requiring enjoyment from a game for it to be playable from a logical sense, then the game is unplayable, as there's no reason to do so.

I actually liked the game, it was certainly different than shogun 2, and had some bugs definitely,
but even at release it was playable. Empire at release didnt even install correctly on my computer and it took months of patches before I could actually play through a whole siege.
Rome 2 could have been released better(most games nowadays have that problem) but im just thankfull for the continued support of CA on the game, and all the free stuff we got

[Nesai]

This must be a joke.

[Naked Emperor]

If you judge the game from technical issues and glaring bugs it still shouldn´t gotten the good game reviews, the game did not deserve it. For me Empire didn´t even have as noticeable bugs. But when boats sail through land and I can walk into town and capture the flag with the A.I army just standing there staring at me then there are serious issues. I didn´t have to play long until I noticed the game had serious issues and I´m not talking about design decisions like cutting family tree or badly implemented feature like politics, those I can live with. But glaring bugs and technical issues is another matter for me.

I love total war, I have spent more than 300 hours on this game already and I enjoy it with my current mod selection but I would never have given high ratings mostly because of bugs. For me the game has slowly getting into decent shape.

I mean if you use logic and critical thinking then you come to the conclusion that settlements don´t have walls because there is no siege A.I. The quick fix was giving units torches to throw at the gates to burn them down where there were walled settlements. As I mentioned I have played this game for more than 300 hours and I have never seen the A.I build a single siege equipment. The A.I units would not even try to kill my skirmishers that were on the walls when they entered walled settlements.....they would not even go after the flags when entering walled settlement. The A.I units just stood there while my slingers slowly but steadily slinged them to death after they had killed all my melee units that were guarding the gate.
I played hundred of turns on VH without the A.I declaring war on me, it wasn´t until after the first patches that the CAI starting do acknowledge my presence in the game.

So either CA are morons or they released this game unfinished.
So either the reviewers at PC gamer are morons and they didn´t notice that CA/SEGA released an unfinished game or they let publishers influence them have stopped reviewing games objectively.

But for me this game should not be nominated for a GOTY awards not even close

[Cor De Ferrum]

Is the argument that Rome II is a bad game, coming from those looking at it as part of the Total War series and meant to be a classic total war game, or looking at it from a 'just a game' standpoint?

[omzdog]

Is the argument that Rome II is a bad game, coming from those looking at it as part of the Total War series and meant to be a classic total war game, or looking at it from a 'just a game' standpoint?

Both.