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    THREE men – two of them ex-soldiers – involved in petrol-bombing a Grimsby mosque days after the "barbaric" murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby have each been jailed for six years.

    The two former soldiers each hurled two petrol bombs at the front of the mosque after being taken there in an accomplice's car.

    They were later followed by a police community support officer and arrested.

    Stuart Harness, 33, and fellow ex-soldier Gavin Humphries, 37, both of nearby Dixon Avenue, Grimsby, admitted arson, being reckless as to whether life was endangered.

    Their accomplice, docks driver Daniel Cressey, 24, of Manchester Square, New Holland, denied aiding and abetting them but was convicted by a jury after a four-day trial at Grimsby Crown Court in November.

    Jeremy Evans, prosecuting, told a sentencing hearing at Hull Crown Court that Drummer Lee Rigby was murdered in Woolwich, London, on May 22.

    The "tragic" murder had "far-reaching consequences" and the "ripples" of it reached Grimsby and the worshippers of the mosque in Weelsby Road on May 26.

    "This was a planned and calculated attack in which four home-made incendiary devices were thrown at the front of the mosque at a time when worshippers had completed their evening prayers and some had gone home," said Mr Evans. "There was an obvious risk to life."

    Some of those inside the mosque managed to put out the flames using extinguishers.

    Cressey drove the two ex-soldiers to the mosque. Harness was his cousin.

    After the attack, just after 10pm, a police community support officer followed Humphries and Harness to the nearby home of Harness.

    Mr Evans said Harness had been a soldier for 13 years, including serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, and had previously been based at Woolwich.

    Humphries had served in the Army, including in the Royal Artillery and had taught English to Muslim children in Qatar, the court heard. Both had unblemished records.

    CCTV footage showed Harness and Humphries preparing home-made bombs outside the Dixon Avenue address. Cressey was shown arriving and later drinking and talking with the others.

    Fourteen seconds after the bombs were thrown, a worshipper began putting the flames out.

    The ex-soldiers threw the bombs in a "cricket-type bowling action" as they would have been trained to hurl grenades, said Mr Evans.

    "They were all involved in the planning and preparation of what was about to happen," he added.

    Judge Mark Bury told the court that the murder of Lee Rigby "provoked national outrage and condemnation". The killers had recently been convicted by a jury and faced life prison sentences.

    "Whatever your feelings of outrage were, you should have allowed justice to take its course," said Judge Bury.

    Instead, Harness and Humphries carried out an act of retaliation. The victims were "entirely innocent, law-abiding Muslims" practising their religion in a peaceable way, said Judge Bury.

    It would have been obvious that the mosque was being used at the time.

    "This type of attack cannot be tolerated," said Judge Bury.

    Source: http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/ty...#ixzz2o8H4ZyBt
    Extremely saddening news to hear.

    It was only a matter of time it seemed before the right-wing would sink to the level of Rigby's killers. If they see such a problem with Muslims in the UK then they are helping to light the match - excuse the pun - for further problems rather than trying to solve anything here, England specifically.

    We can already see the ranks of more extremist right-wing groups growing in the UK and becoming more "active." The most worrying part is who's going to stop them?
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    I always wonder what goes on in the heads of people who attack random strangers who they've never met or even had the ability to judge. The killers of Lee Rigby and these guys who threw the petrol bombs at the mosque are truly in the same camp, no matter how much they would vehemently deny that truth.

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    Tthe violent part of the rightwing movement is not doing well at all. The BNP are reduced to a rump. EDL activity has diminished and now they thave lost Tommy Robinson, they don't have a mouthpiece for Pam Geller's, sorry their concerns. It is the people on both sides putting out stories promoting tensions for money that is the problem. They don't care if some nutters are radicalized by the guff they write about Eurabia on one side, and imposing Sharia on the other. Nor are they concerned if there are casualties, as bad headlines generates funding or appearances on Newsnight.
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    Must be confusing getting told to kill people by a government then expecting them all to come back and switch off. 6 years is a lot of time. Maybe they knew rigby. maybe it was personal.I am sick of this crap.Muslims lived in peace in the UK before Bush administration went all Chuck Norris on terror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom cruise View Post
    Muslims lived in peace in the UK before Bush administration went all Chuck Norris on terror.
    That sums things up tidily
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom cruise View Post
    Muslims lived in peace in the UK before Bush administration went all Chuck Norris on terror.
    Muslim patrols in London don't seem to have anything to do with Bush's war.

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    Technically they stay 6 years on a place where the government tells them to kill the enemy who happens to be a muslim, they do it for 6 years and are comended as bigger heroes the more they kill of the enemy who happens to be muslim, then they come back at home and see muslims around.. and 6 years of PSTD ticks off.

    Anyway are the soldiers linked to a right wing party or was it an individual act?

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    Anyway are the soldiers linked to a right wing party or was it an individual act?
    No evidence they were EDL, but EDL members called for the mosque to be firebombed.

    Steven Ballard posted the following comment on the EDL Grimsby division’s Facebook page: “Burn the mosque down the end of Legsby Avenue. That will tell the clowns in charge in this country that we ain’t taking this and it will start a nationwide action going. Grimsby will be on the map big time then.”

    Matthew Tyson also posted on the EDL Facebook page calling for the mosque to be attacked. “Target that place for start”, he wrote. “A British church into a mosque. Now that’s got my blood boiling.” He added: “We’re patriotic racists. The place needs burning.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by fkizz View Post
    Technically they stay 6 years on a place where the government tells them to kill the enemy who happens to be a muslim, they do it for 6 years and are comended as bigger heroes the more they kill of the enemy who happens to be muslim, then they come back at home and see muslims around.. and 6 years of PSTD ticks off.
    I guess you mean PTSD. And I also guess you have no idea about PTSD.

    First, most cases of delayed onset PTSD happen shortly after return from deployment, second, cases of delayed onset PTSD with regards to the military (as opposed to road accidents) are of a highly controversial nature and have been sometimes demonstrated to be fake and third, PTSD does not account for planned violent acts. Maybe, just maybe it would account for a spontaneous and momentary violent outburst. Maybe. PTSD does not account for the inability of the pair to distinguish between mujahedin and muslims, exactly as some similar fanatics consider every christian, a crusader.

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    And the cycle of hatred between radical Islamophobes and radical Islamists continues.
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    Hopefully they're tried for terrorism.
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    Hopefully they're tried for terrorism.
    Oh sweet irony...

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    Muslim patrols are only 60 nuts wanting Sharia law.That wont happen.Even left wingers do not want that.
    It is the millions world wide that sees the USA as a crusading anti Muslim country and the UK as its lap dog who followed them into war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    A few Imams can twist farmers minds and make them think anything.Make them strap on a suicide vest.
    Due to Bush and his wars Muslim's got very fed up with Americas foreign policy which seemed to be just kick a bees nest and run then spray chemicals every where.There was no Muslim terrorism in the UK till Bush got into power.When Bill Clinton was in power we did not see this hate directed at Muslims and vice versa.
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