Attack on the Lion's forces in the Vale

[Lord Dread]

Being informed about Ser Guy Lannister's movements and the size of his host, Ser Edric Tully and Lord Danos Darry prepare the battle against one of the Westerlands' main leaders. With the Lord Paramount still in absence and Lord Danos being the current marshall of the host, they decided to bring the battle quickly among their enemies after they have gotten enough informations about their current location for attacking them prepared and immidiately.

Numbers of the Tully Host

House Tully :
2,624 Light Inf
1,230 Heavy Inf
820 Polearms
820 Archers
574 Light Cavalry
287 Heavy Cavalry
546 Outriders
492 Household knights
1,868 Mercenary Crossbowmen

House Darry:
-3618 Light Inf
-1753 Heavy Inf
-904 Polearms
-1136 Archers
-856 Light Cav
-779 Heavy Cav

House Frey :
1,517 Light Inf
615 Heavy Inf
410 Polearms
533 Archers
369 Light Cavalry
246 Heavy Cavalry

House Mallister:
1,517 Light Inf
943 Heavy Inf
738 Polearms
697 Archers
451 Light Cavalry
246 Heavy Cavalry

House Blackwood :

800 Light Inf
513 Heavy Inf
533 Polearms
410 Archers
267 Light Cavalry
144 Heavy Cavalry

Commands and set up of the army shall be done by Lord Danos, as Gyles is not any longer Lord Protector, since this title was given by himself under the royal Rulership and not by Lord Edric himself.
I may set up the battle by myself, but I want to give jacob also the chance to work out a tactic and build an army.

Furthermore, since there was no outcome of the scout roll from Guy, I may have a slight advantage, even if he is prepared for an eventual attack. However, when the scouts fail to tell their lord any movements it would be unlikely that their Lord would suspect his enemy for a direct movement upon him. Since the Westerlanders have so far benefitted from the last rolls, I hope it may include a little bonus this time for the Riverlands, if they attack now.
Also, sorry for the delay, but well, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays are always hard for me as I'm afk until 5pm CET due to RL and work and have not enough time for RP in the morning. Tomorrow will definitly be better, but I apologize for posting this now.

[jacb547]

OOC: I have already deducted my losses in the other thread. Anyway Gyles can have the command of a flank.

[Lord Dread]

OOC: I have already deducted my losses in the other thread. Anyway Gyles can have the command of a flank.

OOC: Have updated the numbers and okay, I would take the flank, though I guess I will follow your orders.
Sorry if I'm putting the pressure towards you, but have some other things ongoing aside from the forum now and I also am curious if you have a good plan, since I want to have the titles of my vassals not just being empty hulls, while I command everything.
So, hope you're able to make up a good start up for our lion friends. They shall fear the Fish and the Farmer.

[Pontifex Maximus]

As per orders given yesterday, the failure of the scouts to report anything despite Guy knowing a huge host of the Riverlands exists to the west has caused his army to stop all movement when they reached Crow's Barrens and do this.

Perhaps we could have a roll to determine whether or not he found any defensible ground or not?

The Golden Host

Ser Guy Lannister, +4 Survival, +2 field battle Ser Godric Lefford, +2 field battle rolls Ser Robb Reyne, +2 field battle rolls 5,000 Light Infantry 2,500 Heavy Infantry 2,500 Polearms 3,500 archers 3,500 Light cavalry 2,000 Heavy Cavalry 1,000 Mercenary Heavy Infantry 300 Household Knights (heavy cavalry) Skill: These troops form the personal bodyguard of the Lord in a battlefield situation. Formed of minor nobility, wards, trusted retainers and second sons of wealthy lords, these men represent the best equipped fighting force Westeros can field, composed of men with the financial means to buy the best and spend most of their time in training. If these men are present as the Lord's bodyguard the Lord gains +2 to the post-battle condition roll (eg dead, captured, wounded, free) and, if the Lord to which they are attached leads a cavalry charge, these men form the highly-armoured spear tip granting the charge an additional +1 modifier. 5,900 Guardians of Casterly Rock (heavy infantry) (100 in KL) Skill: These troops gain +3 to battle rolls. This will be divided by their ratio in the fighting forces and decimal points rounded as normal. Therefore, this unit type must compose at least 1/6th of the clashing infantry to gain a +1, 1/2 of the clashing forces to gain +2, and 5/6ths of the clashing forces to gain a full +3. If fighting in the Westerlands, this bonus is +5, subject to ratio calculations.

The camp of the Golden Host had been in a state of high alert for days. Armies just don't disappear. Perhaps they moved to the twins? Perhaps they fought with the north? There was no telling for certain. Regardless, Guy had no intentions of moving until he knew something more definitive. He knew Abelar would be moving against Riverrun, perhaps that would be enough of the distraction to slip away from this precarious position he now found himself in.

"I want a defensive ring around the camp at all times, we cannot allow ourselves to be taken by surprise by the Riverlords again. Light infantry will screen the camp, with a strong body of archers behind it."

A sullen gloom had fallen over the once confident camp. News of the betrayal had been disheartening, but in another way fortifying. Revenge was on Guy's mind. It would be sweet and swift.

[jacb547]

Here are the plans, LD I hope I did okay since this is my first major battle.




Troop disposition:

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Right::
Commander: Walder Darry
Full Armour
+3 Jousting
+3 Dueling
+2 Survival
+2 Field Battle
2,500 Light Inf
1,250 Heavy Inf
2,000 Polearms
1,250 Archers
702 Heavy Cav
1,000 Light Cav
Orders: Polearms up front to protect against cavalry charges, heavy and light inf behind it to attack once the meele starts, archers in the last line to fire at advancing infantry, heavy and light cavalry will attempt a flanking maneuver once the meele has started or if the enemy tries to flank the army they will outflank the flankers.

Center:
Commander: Lord Danos Darry
Full Armour
+6 Duels
+5 Field Battles
+5 Survival
+4 Loyalty
+1 Income
+1 Siege
2,500 Light Inf
1,250 Heavy Inf
1,405 Polearms
1,250 Archers
Orders: The polearms will form the first line to defend against cavalry, heavy and light infantry behind them to join the meele, archers behind to fire at the enemy infantry.

Left:
Commander: Gyles Tully
??????
5,076 Light Inf
1,096 Archers
1,517 Light Cav
546 Outriders
Orders: The left is purportedly lighter manned in order to draw more Lannister troops to attack, once the attack commences the archers will fire at the enemy inf and all of the dismounted troops will commence a feint to draw the Lannister into pursuing, once the reserve has charged at their pursuers the inf will turn again to fight, the cavalry is placed further away on the left of the main line they will charge alongside the reserve, should the pursuers be defeated they will turn and fight at the center.

Reserve:
Commander: Ser Raymund Darry
Full armour
+3 Jousting
+4 Dueling
+2 Survival
+2 Archery
+2 Field Battle
2,554 Heavy Inf
1,000 Heavy Cav
492 Household Knights
1,868 Mercenary crossbowmen
Orders: Placing themselves behind the center once the feint on the left begin they will charge at the Lannister pursuers Cavalry first and then the infantry, the Crossbowmen will shoot at the pursuers, should the feint fail orders are the same except they will fight at the left normally.


Battle Plans in drawing:



All chars are open for dueling.

[Pontifex Maximus]

ooc: Stick those in spoiler so I don't see them dude!

[jacb547]

As the sun rose fast in the horizon the men at the camp of the Riverlords were stirring, pulling boots and hauberks and tossing off camp followers on their last night of quiet. Danos Darry had woken earlier and stood examining the map for the battle, he had already told his sons of the positions and he sent his squire, Tywin Cox, to fetch Ser Gyles. This will be the battle of your life so you better do it right! Lord Danos had reviewed the plans many times for he knew that the battle would be determinant for the entire war effort of the Riverlands, hopefully he would avenge all the sackings in the south.

[Lord Dread]

Ser Gyles came quickly, already wearing his armour to meet the man, whom Edric has trusted most apart from him. His time has come and he was just the brother of a hero, a legend.
Someone, who wasn't worth the honour of the Lords of Riverrun.
"Lord Marshall", the old knight then said with a confident look at his face, "I hope the results of our outriders were helpful. The night seemed to have covered their movements."

OOC: As said, you're in Edric's absence his Lord Marshall of the Riverlands, so you decide and shall lead the battle.
And I'm pleased by your orders as I still like the details in it.

[jacb547]

Lord Danos was also fully armored he now looked grim and determined "They did, we now know that the Westermen are outnumbered but not by much. You will lead the left flank friend."He then proceeds to tell him the orders "I heard about what happened in Riverrun, did your family escape?"

OOC: If the knews have yet to become common knowledge than disregard it.

[Lord Dread]

Gyles nodded with a sad look on his face.
"I assumed Lannister being cruel enough to repay our treason with a similiar, more radical coin of terror, but it does simply show, that he is not different from us", he then said sighing, "Their movements lead us into the position of not returning in time to secure our castles in the West, so I already instructed Darlessa to escape with the children to Seagart and from there on to the Twins. Edric sticked, before I left him in the dungeons, with the idea to leave the children in the North as wards if the North turned out as our ally, and so, I guess it is the case, as we had exchanged our scouts secretly and got a few letters from Manderly. They will surely be safe, though I hope that I could say the same about all families in the Riverlands.
For their crimes, the Lefford Lords and the commanders of the raids shall be brought at a court or, if they resist, in battle, to justice, as it seems as they have unlike us attacked our civilians also. The Lion always proves himself as the more brutal predator, but the trout is hard to catch for him. And his anger will cost him his life, as I don't want to spread more blood among the innocent vassals in his country side.
Probably some of the Lords of the Realm may now see the true face of the Westerlands and the Queen and rethink their oaths.
Rethink the justice of King Baelor.
But as sad as I am about the news from the Riverlands, it gives me at least the confidence, that we are not the real monsters in this Game of Thrones, as I would call it. It only proves the rightful fight of Lord Edric against a treacherous and corrupt Crown."

[Honors Bastion]

Alright, before you guys finalize your orders, here is the situation of the battle. Ponti has requested rolls to be done on whether or not his men get any tactical advantage due to good terrain. The rolls were a 10/20 roll and the roll was a 3, so he does get a slight terrain advantage.

After looking at the hex map, region, map and the asoiaf wiki map here,the terrain advantage will be in the form of getting to position their army on top of a ridge that has a gentle decline downhill to an open plain. The Ridge and it's slope are not steep enough to tire infantrymen quickly but the added height advantage will give a +1 roll to all archer attacks and cavalry charges for whoever can control the high ground. Similarly, any cavalry charges uphill will be hindered slightly and receive a -1 to their rolls. Otherwise, this terrain advantage should not have a major impact.

Below is a very basic picture of what I am trying to represent with the terrain advantage.

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[Pontifex Maximus]

ooc: sorry guys, I can't do much until I hear back from the mods.

[Pontifex Maximus]

orders

Left Flank Ser Guy Lannister, +4 Survival 1,500 Light Infantry 1,500 Heavy Infantry 1,000 polearms 1,000 archers 1,500 Light Cavalry 1,000 Heavy Cavalry 300 Household Knights (with Ser Guy) Orders: 1. Polearms in the front, then light infantry, then heavy infantry, then archers, cavalry on the extreme flank. 2. Archers will loose arrows along enemy infantry and cavalry formations 3. Cavalry is ordered to prevent any flanking movements by enemy cavalry. They will engage the enemy cavalry and attempt to turn the flank after the enemy cavalry is neutralized. (+1 to the cavalry charge due to the Household Knights on thie flank) 4. The infantry will decide the flank as a result, polearms used to deter enemy cavalry charges while the 3,000 mixed heavy and light infantry advance to close with the line once they are near enough for a short charge 5. Once the infantry clashes, the archers direct fire upon enemy archers. Center Ser Godric Lefford, +2 field battle rolls 5,900 Guardians of Casterly Rock - heavy infantry (+3 to this line's battle rolls) 1,000 mercenary heavy infantry 1,500 Light Infantry 500 polearms 1,500 archers Orders: Ser Guy wants the battle decided here, with the most heavily armored elements engaging. The goal is to break the back of the center of the Riverlander lines. 1. Archers concentrate fire on the center of the line. 2. Polearms protect from an unlikely cavalry charge of the center 3. The infantry wait for the enemy to come within a reasonable reange for a charge, and then surge forward. 4. Once the infantry engage, archers will shift fire to enemy archers or either flank if the infantry has not closed yet Right Flank Ser Robb Reyne, +2 field battle rolls 2,000 Light Infantry 1,000 Heavy Infantry 2,000 Polearms 1,000 archers 2,000 Light cavalry 1,000 Heavy Cavalry 1. Polearms in the front, then light infantry, then heavy infantry, then archers, cavalry on the extreme flank. 2. Archers will loose arrows along enemy infantry and cavalry formations 3. Cavalry is ordered to prevent any flanking movements by enemy cavalry. They will engage the enemy cavalry and attempt to turn the flank after the enemy cavalry is neutralized. 4. The infantry will decide the flank as a result, polearms used to deter enemy cavalry charges while the mixed heavy and light infantry advance to close with the line once they are near enough for a short charge 5. Once the infantry clashes, the archers direct fire upon enemy archers or any enemies in range who have not closed with the Westerland lines. ------------------------- 300 Household Knights (heavy cavalry) Skill: These troops form the personal bodyguard of the Lord in a battlefield situation. Formed of minor nobility, wards, trusted retainers and second sons of wealthy lords, these men represent the best equipped fighting force Westeros can field, composed of men with the financial means to buy the best and spend most of their time in training. If these men are present as the Lord's bodyguard the Lord gains +2 to the post-battle condition roll (eg dead, captured, wounded, free) and, if the Lord to which they are attached leads a cavalry charge, these men form the highly-armoured spear tip granting the charge an additional +1 modifier. 5,900 Guardians of Casterly Rock (heavy infantry) (100 in KL) Skill: These troops gain +3 to battle rolls. This will be divided by their ratio in the fighting forces and decimal points rounded as normal. Therefore, this unit type must compose at least 1/6th of the clashing infantry to gain a +1, 1/2 of the clashing forces to gain +2, and 5/6ths of the clashing forces to gain a full +3. If fighting in the Westerlands, this bonus is +5, subject to ratio calculations.

ooc: we should probably give trot a chance to post here

[Pontifex Maximus]

Guy mounted his horse and rode to the flank. He looked down the line and nodded proudly to see the men drawn into tight, orderly ranks. "Time to send these treacherous bastards back to hell." He knew that many of those men across the field had nothing to go back home to. Abelar had already reaped a high price for their traitorous behavior. He felt no sympathy or remorse.

"Ser Lefford, prepare yourself ad your men for battle. Today we avenge the treachery against your father. I swear by the gods this land shall know nothing but fire and despair for the actions of the Tullys."

Guy rose his voice to address his men "I am not a stranger to many of you. Barely a year can pass that your Lords do not call on you for service. This year, finally, you shall whet your swords with the blood of traitors and scoundrels in the Queen's name. It is a fact that not all of us will survive this day, so make your peace with the gods. Those of us who do make it out will have a story to tell our children and grandchildren, that in spite of odds stacked against us, we managed to emerge victorious from the clutches of despair and defeat. Look to your arms! Harden your hearts! Give them no quarter!"

Guy drew his sword and gave a shout, challenging his enemy to advance if they dared.

[Poach]

Godric rode to his position in the centre of the line, fully armoured and ready for battle. With no cavalry to command, Godric swiftly dismounted and joined the vanguard of the elite Guardians force that made up the bulk of his line. Armed and armoured to the teeth, they formed a massive wall of plate tipped with steel spears and large shields. Among them Godric felt safer.

He stared down the slope as the Riverlords began their advance. A mixture of rage and fear fuelled him: these were the same bastards that had jumped his father as his men slept, the same cowards that had surrendered like women when Lefford banners appeared at Riverrun, yet now they stood as enemies. Godric had heard the Queen's decree and couldn't agree with it more: House Tully must be wiped out completely, becoming the next House Gardener.

He held his sword high, shouting, "ARCHERS!", waiting for the Riverlanders to come a little closer. They eventually reached the bottom of the slope, and Godric dropped his sword. Thousands of arrows flew over his head as the first half dozen ranks of Riverlanders were decimated, their comrades struggling past them at the halfway mark on the slope.

"WESTERMEN! CHARGE!" he screamed, breaking into a sprint, followed by the massed forces of the centre. Clashing with their front rank, still not reorganised after the archer volley, Godric ran his sword through the face of the man infront of him, being overtaken by his men while he hauled the sword back out. By the time he was back upright, he'd become the seventh or eighth rank in a crushing melee where Godric's massed superheavy infantry excelled.

He withdrew through his men and returned swiftly to his horse, taking a commander's position now that the enemy forces had engaged. He would serve his roll better staying withdrawn from combat, issuing direction. He kept a close watch on the two flanks, keeping his riders and drummers near in event of requiring to issue fresh direction. He watched closely the progress of his line, silently aware he couldn't do anything anyway: he had no cavalry with which to lead a saving charge. If his line broke, he would simply have to do his best to rally it.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Arrows whistled through the air as the Tully host came into range. Ser Guy lowered his visor and accepted a keen lance from one of the squires distributing the lethal weapons to the riders of the noble cavalry. Lannister banners caught the breeze and unfurled in a foreboding way, displayed to the enemies. A fierce lion on a field of red. The tension was palpable, however. Arrows continued to sing before holding his sword lance aloft towards the enemy, Guy shouted the order "Advance at the double quick!" The men gave a cheer as they advanced, arrows falling amidst them causing some injuries and deaths. Guy had expected a peppering in response before long.

He eyed the enemy cavalry and their manures with keen interest. The plan revolved around holding a defensive position and allowing the heavy infantry in the center to break through. The cavalry must be contained on the flanks "Pikemen, spread further to the flank, lengthen the line!" THe enemy cavalry broke into a charge, and Guy's voice almost caught in his throat. "Give the signal! Charge!"

Several horns blared, a deafening, mute, muffled chorus of high and low notes. The tension broke as the horses broke into a full gallop. The formation began to settle as riders picked targets across the field. Ser Guy leveled his lance, one chance to make an end of an enemy before drawing his sword. As the lines met, Guy lost all peripheral senses, focusing on the man in front of him. His lance found it's mark, bowed, and entered his body like a shot. Impaled, the man fell beneath the hooves of the oncoming cavalry. Guy, meanwhile, drew his sword prepared to defend himself.

ooc: tried to base some RP based on the Riverland orders

[jacb547]

OOC: Some changes to the orders

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The riverlanders instead are attacking(kinda obvious) and the feint will try to draw the Westermen from the slope into the open fields.

IC:"That is good, I assure we will get payback from these bastards." Danos caressed the hilt of his sword "For good or for ill today will decide the war." Lord Danos then mounted his horse "Should the worse happen, it was honour fighting alongside you Gyles." ​With that the Lord of Darry rode off to battle.

[Poach]

I don't think you can retroactively change orders like that.

[jacb547]

OOC: I did not know about the terrain when I gave the orders.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Ooc: doesnt change the fact that Guy is defending and his orders are very defensive in nature to maintain the terrain advantage