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    Crowns of Westeros

    Hotseat based on Korspkog's small submod War of the Five Kings with some additional modifications done by myself.


    ~Outline~

    This Hotseat is meant as a quick one, so the number of factions was reduced to 7 with Lannister/Joffrey, Stark/Tully and Renly/Tyrell beeing joined to a one big faction. This is also lorewise because each of those three Kings had a big support of the coresponding House and their relationship was very strong. At the same time all those 3 Alliances were in war between themselves and with another two Kings, Balon Greyjoy and Stannis Baratheon. As a result all those five factions will be at war from the beginning till the end of our Hotseat and any diplomatic deals between them won't be acceptable and players will have to replay their turns. At the same time we will also have two neutral Houses Arryn and Martell who will be free in their diplomatic dealings with one single exception: their player will have to stay true to the lore (Martell won't side with Lannister unless you will give us a good explanation for that alliance) + they will have to publicy acknowledge their loyalty to one of the five kings (or stay neutral) even if they will make further secret pacts.

    ~Timeline~

    This game starts at the beginning of the War of the Five Kings with characters beeing on the same locations like in youngbloods and Enhanced 0.53 mods. Stark is fighting for revenge against Lannister and Joffrey, Stannis and Renly are their own Kings who would like to sit on the Iron Throne and rule Westeros as late King Robert's brothers and we also have Ironborn and their King Balon who wants to have his own independent Kingdom. Who will prevail at the end? That is up to you to decide.

    ~Download~

    We will be using War of the Five Kings submod. It is very easy to install as you have just download it and unzip it to your medieval2/mods. Don't forget to replace original descr_strat from upper submod with this one http://www.filedropper.com/descrstrat as Martell and Arryn have no ports in the first one.

    ~Winning Condition~

    Dominate Westeros by controlling King's Landing and kill all other Kings (not factions). So even if some other faction still holds only one region and their King is still alive you haven't yet archieve victory as you will have to kill him first.

    ~Faction/Players~

    Admin: vozd
    Co-Admin: Korpskog

    King Stannis Baratheon: Admiral Thrawn
    House Arryn of the Eyrie: Alrichwell
    King Balon Greyjoy: irishviking5
    King Robb Stark: Matto16
    King Renly Baratheon: DrakeRox
    King Joffrey Baratheon: Stannis the Mannis
    House Martell of Dorne: SoulGamesInc


    ~Rules~
    They are taken from Son of the Rivers and the Hills hotseat as I really like concept implemented by Hopelessly Hopeless so please read them carefully as there are some changes from ordinary hotseat rules.

    • PM or VM the next player as you post your turn on the thread so the game moves as swiftly as possible.
    • If you know you will miss your turn; nominate a sub and provide them with your password. If you miss your turn and haven't nominated a sub, you'll be skipped.
    • One turn peace. You are not allowed to attack other faction in first turn nor forting on other faction's territory.
    • Heroic victories are not allowed unless the same outcome is reached three consecutive times (save and load), the Admin always checks this to be sure.
    • No bug abuse! When you think someone has used a bug report it here and the admin (me) will look into it. A list of common bugs and exploits can be found somewhere in this forum, but I feel rather lazy atm so look for it yourselves
    • No sailing from a blockaded port without first defeating the blockading ships.
    • No sallying forth in a siege to deny your besieger the opportunity to sack your settlement.
    • Minimum of 4 units per fort, 4 forts/province
    • Post pictures of battle odds, and results
    • If any army of yours gets defeated, it shan't move next turn. If a defeated army of yours retreats to a settlement, you are not allowed to sally or in any way use the defeated units. Exception: Reinforcing armies in defense, when based on forts or settlements, even if defeated, don't lose movement points.
    • Settlements gifted should disband all units save one.
    • No building destruction. Burning down everything is a 'cheap' source of gold, and feels rather weird. Not that I never do it or anything, but I'd make it a rule in my hotseat.
    • No adoptions; use your characters with caution. No marrying your noble ladies to randomly generated characters either; nor adopting generals after you win a battle with no leader; Named characters you start the game with, CAN be adopted (for example, Jonos Mallister, who is not a family member at game start, but is still a character; same for Raymund Vance and others).
    • If the ruling house changes, the player must change as well ; for example, if both Starks die, and some bloke from another house rises to power... whoever played House Stark previously would have to resign and give the spot to someone else.
    • No sharing of ancillaries! Some of them give extra command, and that's easily exploitable to give many generals the crucial night fighter trait.
    • No using of princesses/noble ladies to steal generals! Would you marry off your daughters to a sworn enemy? No? Me neither, you see
    Last edited by Matto16; December 01, 2013 at 11:39 AM.
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    Default Re: Crowns of Westeros

    Great, we are already full! Now all we need is admin and we can start.
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    Damn...Well I will try to make Joffrey survive for as long as I can.
    Good game to you all (better saying it now rather than when I am angry when I lose)
    If I see any of Yous slowing this down with cheating I am going to be cross

    Two points that others may be wondering (just clarification)
    It says after leader and heir die and another takes over then a new player, however you said if the King dies you lose...Do you still keep playing but are not able to win and can't officially help another win
    Secondly, when someone declares for you, are they able to do a Karstark? (March through your lands and when your back is turned strike declaring for a second king)

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    He means if another House takes over. For example; House Stark family tree dies out and House Bolton family tree takes over, a new player replaces Stark as Bolton.
    I'm pretty sure there are no rules against betrayal, it's the Game of Thrones after all, you just have to watch who you trust...

    As Martell i'll likely be playing a support role to a nearby King. Yay lol...

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    Soul is right. If your King dies you won't loose because his heir will step on his place and he will be the new King. However should your entire rulling House die and another takes over then you will have to leave and let other player takes your faction.

    However one can only win this Hotseat if all other Kings are death (original Kings: Robb, Joffrey, Stannis, Renly and Balon). And regarding treasons it is also as Soul said, someone may declare for you but they could betray you any time so it is up to you to keep them loyal.
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    Good luck to everyone !!

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    Default Re: [HS] Crowns of Westeros

    i want so much to be in that HS if someone leave i want his place

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    I will be co admin here!! Me and Matto might look over some small details with the mod before we start so stay patient!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpskog View Post
    I will be co admin here!! Me and Matto might look over some small details with the mod before we start so stay patient!
    I only forgot on ports for Martell and Arryn as they weren't included in original version so I will post a link above to descr_strat that you should replace with original one which hasn't ports for them.

    Also vozd will be our main admin so everything is set.
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    Default Re: [HS] Crowns of Westeros

    Sorry to point this out but (if you haven't already) the changes to make the units free upkeep
    EDIT:
    Italian Spear Militia -> Spear Militia
    Sergeant Spearmen -> Levy Spearmen
    maybe
    give Gold Cloaks free upkeep?
    Last edited by Iron Aquilifer; November 30, 2013 at 10:45 AM.

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    Hey, so diplomatic agreements are no-nos, but what about NAPs?

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    I wish you al good luck!
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    We will have to start again. Vozd didn't use new descr_strat which gives Arryn and Martell ports and that wouldn't be fair to those two factions.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis_the_Mannis
    Sorry to point this out but (if you haven't already) the changes to make the units free upkeep
    EDIT:
    Italian Spear Militia -> Spear Militia
    Sergeant Spearmen -> Levy Spearmen
    maybe
    give Gold Cloaks free upkeep?
    Thir require a lot of work and I don't want to change this anymore. It is not vital anyway as you will be able to recruit in Joffrey settlements only Lannister forces and they will have free unkeep in the future. The only units that are not free unkeep are those already in your settlements and original belongs to Joffrey.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralThrawn
    Hey, so diplomatic agreements are no-nos, but what about NAPs?
    You can make NAPs with other Kings if you like but the point of this game is in war between them so you could expect that others won't respect it. And once again I will tell that you can make any diplomatic agreements with Arryn and Martell.
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    It's was just checking it yesterday and Lanny is in debt without the ports/the upkeep.
    However not all is lost, I checked and disbanding all my troops I can get some monies

    An another question: No 1turn peace I assume? (Even tho no-one can reach each other) more wondering about forting

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    I don't know where are both admins but we have been waiting for way too long...

    So here we go again:

    http://www.filedropper.com/cowstannis1

    We will have 2 neutral admins so they will check everything and there won't be any cheating.

    And yes, there will be 1 turn peace. So no attacking other factions or forting on other territory in your first turn.

    Also Alrichwell will be our new Arryn player since Tyler is absent. I will add him to the list.
    Last edited by Matto16; December 01, 2013 at 11:37 AM.
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