Any possibility of having onagers in RTR PE?

[Betta]

I'm not into modding or some kind and i've read somewhere that onagers is hard coded or something.But is there a possibility that we can actually enable the onagers in RTR PE.I think it would be fun to have onagers added to the game where you have enemies coming at you to smash down your walls rather than having the enemies dishing out dozen of batterings ram/siege towers only to get burned nearing the walls.Just my thoughts.

[florin80]

I'm not into modding or some kind and i've read somewhere that onagers is hard coded or something.But is there a possibility that we can actually enable the onagers in RTR PE.I think it would be fun to have onagers added to the game where you have enemies coming at you to smash down your walls rather than having the enemies dishing out dozen of batterings ram/siege towers only to get burned nearing the walls.Just my thoughts.

You`d have to introduce them yourself. They were removed from all the files I think.

[Betta]

Hi Florin80.What are the files that needed changes for me to introduce the onagers?Can you kindly guide me into this?thanks.

[Invoker]

Lestat did it for the newest version of Imperator II, though they're only availible after the Imperial reforms near the time of Augustus. I don't know exactly how to do it, but if you're good at modding detective work, you could check out the files to see what he did.

[florin80]

Well, it`s very late here. I`m just gonna give you the basics now.
EDU export_descr_unit located in Rome - Total War/data
DMB descr_model_battle located in the same place
export_descr_unit_enums located in the same place
export_units located in Rome - Total War/data/text

You have to make entries in the EDU like the ones from vanilla. Example:

type             carthaginian onager
dictionary       carthaginian_onagers      ; Onagers
category         siege
class            missile
voice_type       Light_1
soldier          carthaginian_crew, 16, 2, 0.8
engine           onager
attributes       sea_faring
formation        1.5, 1.5, 3, 3, 3, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         4, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, knife, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         53, 2, boulder, 300, 30, siege_missile, blade, blunt, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr    ap, bp, area, launching
stat_pri_armour  0, 3, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        0
stat_ground      0, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental      4, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 720, 110, 80, 110, 720
ownership        carthage, spain, numidia

Take them from vanilla RTW.
Then go in DMB and .... Wait! I think the entry in the DMB has what it needs (i.e. the right crew). I`m not sure. I think editing the EDU willl do it. I think that all the other files are still there from vanilla RTW. Try that. Sorry if I forgot anything.

If someone has more time, please help him further.

[TiFlo]

Hi Betta,

Just follow what florin80 said about the EDU, and make sure the type, dictionary and soldier lines are filled up with the right faction names. Ie. for Romans you'd have something like this:

type ---> roman onager
dictionary ---> roman_onagers
soldier ---> roman_crew

You do not need to add anything into your DMB, since onagers, as other artillery models don't use a slot in it.

If correctly done, you should have them working properly in game (custom battle). If you want them to be recruitable in campaign mode, you need to add an entry for them into your EDB (export_descr_building.txt).

Hope this help :-)

[The Walrus]

     militia_barracks
            }
        }
        militia_barracks requires factions { carthage, slave, } and building_present_min_level occupation occupation1 or factions { carthage, slave, } and not hidden_resource barbarian 
        {
            capability
            {
                recruit "libyan spearmen" 0  requires factions { carthage, } and hidden_resource aor_punic
                recruit "poeni infantry"  0  requires factions { carthage, } and hidden_resource aor_punic
                recruit "carthaginian sacred band infantry"  0  requires factions { carthage, } and hidden_resource unit_carthage

Picked a random one. Then add...(need sleep, hope florin80 takes this)