[GS HS] Tag-Team Tournament 1

[Mithridate]

Yay, more drama!

I encourage anyone to try to push it to the limit but you are to contact the admin when unsure if something is allowed or not, do they really have to spell that out as a rule? Also, you all but say that you knew this was likely not to be allowed which i find highly reprehensible.

I'd support changing the

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§ in case someone preforms a trick\move which isn't forbidden by the rules that the admin does not like, that action (if it should be allowed or not) goes to a vote and if more then half the players agree then that rule will become valid next turn

Rule, into " Admin decide what is considered a bug or not and will act accordingly. You are free to dispute the ruling either by fellow player majority support or with GS ".

At least for GS hotseats, whom are run by many different GS that can talk things over for consensus, thus ensuring fairness ( and will create a special tribunal to deal with violations ). I while heartedly support the strive towards eliminating advantage gained over punnishing, fairness over draconic rule ( I always have ) but this is getting out of hand -.-'

It's stick and carrot for a reason.

[Uriyaca]

Absoloutly not. This rule ensures that the rules have meaning. If there is any known bug that the Gaming staff do not approve they should have considered it before the hotseat and made sure it was in the set of rules to begin with

As it stands, they have started the hotseats without talking over the rules and making a full and complete set of rules which they decide to follow. They can however fix this by thinking over which moves should the forbid in the rules and put them to a vote, and not to just WAIT until this trick accures and only then forbid it

Admins are not supposed to be "I say I do" .their job is to follow the rules they choose at the beginning of the hotseat

There is a reason why the law system in every civilized culture is like this

[jemdkyl]

Admins are not supposed to be "I say I do" .their job is to follow the rules they choose at the beginning of the hotseat

There is a reason why the law system in every civilized culture is like this

Do you think the law system in every civilization today is as it was in its beginning? Rules change and adapt, if the admins forgot to add a rule, they can still enforce it mid-game if they deem it unfair. Go easy on these guys, the point is to have a fun balanced game, not victory alone. Admins try to provide that to us. Dux especially should have earned your respect by now and it's surprising to me that after all this time you've been in this community you can still defend cheap moves you've done like this where you CLEARLY wronged EoH.

He may have done it himself in another hotseat, you don't need to take revenge and do it yourself. Be the better player and don't.

[Uriyaca]

Do you think the law system in every civilization today is as it was in its beginning? Rules change and adapt, if the admins forgot to add a rule, they can still enforce it mid-game if they deem it unfair. Go easy on these guys, the point is to have a fun balanced game, not victory alone. Admins try to provide that to us. Dux especially should have earned your respect by now and it's surprising to me that after all this time you've been in this community you can still defend cheap moves you've done like this where you CLEARLY wronged EoH.

He may have done it himself in another hotseat, you don't need to take revenge and do it yourself. Be the better player and don't.

Take revenge? He didn't do it to me. He did it to guy
And why should I be the better man? :laughter. I find it rediculous that he did it himself and he then reports me for doing the same thing, which is also legal in the rules

[Korpskog]

Yes haha that is so funny... Please replay so we can continue... these are ment to be fast turns

[themzr]

And don't forgot the screens this time please.

[Dux]

By the power granted to me by the rules of the Tag Tournament and my position as admin, I rule the following.

Uriyaca, your disbanding of units in the under-siege castle of Pinkmaiden caused Emperor of Hell's besieging forces to enter the settlement and occupying it. Thus, this act denied Emperor of Hell his rightful sacking money, which he would have gained if he had taken the castle by force.

The rule:

§ You are not allowed to sally out to attack a besieging army just to deny the enemy of sacking the settlement.

Protects besiegers and assures that they receive their rightful sacking money. Your act of disbanding units bypassed this rule. By doing what you did you found a way to deny the enemy besiegers sacking money, and that is forbidden.

As such, I demand you to replay your turn and forbid you to disband the units in Pinkmaiden.

Failure to do so will result in your immediate removal from this hotseat.

My authority in this matter comes from my position as admin of this hotseat and from the most important rule of all:

§The admin's decision is final.

Which in its very nature is designed to give the admin the final say in all matters regarding the hotseat.

This discussion is now over, any more posts on this subject in this topic will be regarded as off-topic and will be dealt with accordingly. If you still want to argue this it is to be done in PM and/or in the proper channels.

[Uriyaca]

By the power granted to me by the rules of the Tag Tournament and my position as admin, I rule the following.

Uriyaca, your disbanding of units in the under-siege castle of Pinkmaiden caused Emperor of Hell's besieging forces to enter the settlement and occupying it. Thus, this act denied Emperor of Hell his rightful sacking money, which he would have gained if he had taken the castle by force.

The rule:

Protects besiegers and assures that they receive their rightful sacking money. Your act of disbanding units bypassed this rule. By doing what you did you found a way to deny the enemy besiegers sacking money, and that is forbidden.

As such, I demand you to replay your turn and forbid you to disband the units in Pinkmaiden.

Failure to do so will result in your immediate removal from this hotseat.

My authority in this matter comes from my position as admin of this hotseat and from the most important rule of all:



Which in its very nature is designed to give the admin the final say in all matters regarding the hotseat.

This discussion is now over, any more posts on this subject in this topic will be regarded as off-topic and will be dealt with accordingly. If you still want to argue this it is to be done in PM and/or in the proper channels.

OK then...... Tbh it isn't so important to me to disband the knights unit
I am sorry for the trouble. Can I send you a save just before I ended my turn so that you can pop up a new unit at Pinkmaiden? So I don't have to replay the whole turn that is

I'll send you the save ASAP

[Dux]

Here is the new stark save.

[Korpskog]

Go go go!

[themzr]

Before I play my turn I still want to see the forts that Uri sallied out of.

[themzr]

Eastern sea castle taken pretty boring turn actually....

[Ice Eyes]

Save sent to uri.

I bribed a Tully Diplomat!

[Uriyaca]

I'd be ready to do some serious smashing this turn, but first I have to wait for Dux to respond about whether some trick I can pull off this turn is allowed or not, so I don't get kicked out or have to replay again!

[Korpskog]

Seems like all you do is trickmoves...

[themzr]

You still haven't shown pics of the forts you sallied out of

[Uriyaca]

Guys, I'm sorry but I'm going to have to ask for a 16 hour extension. Between the delay with the trick (which Dux approved at last) , my sis hogging the computer, going to visit my grandpa and a mistake on my turn which forced me to play all over again and the fact that it's getting late I have no choice but to ask for an extension. I'm sorry and I promise to play my turn ASAP once I get home from school tommorow

[Korpskog]

I actually find it unacceptable! And what is this bloody trick, the silence is killing me!

[Uriyaca]

I actually find it unacceptable! And what is this bloody trick, the silence is killing me!

Are you being sarcastic or are you actually mad? And anyway I'm sorry but this hotseat is pretty fast anyway
And the trick is using an abandoned fort to get past a fortwall

Edit: and Empeor sorry, would you like it if next time I don't ask the admin if it's allowed?

[Emperor of Hell]

I totally get that you don't always have time for a turn and might need an extension, but if you just play as you should and don't always use these bloody tricks we wouldn't have such delays.