Creating a World - Importing units from another mod

**Gigantus** · March 26, 2014, 08:39 AM

The texture is default, so even if you don't have it in your mod it's going to work. Which would leave only the usual explanation of missing entry in modeldb. This may sound silly, but could there be a second 16 english_huscarls entry? I take it the soldier entry and the upgrade entries in EDU are english_huscarls?

**sale70** · March 26, 2014, 01:27 PM

The armour_ug_models !!!!!! yes, man i'm so stupid...did not change that line in EDU! thx man, u save me again! i'll give u +100 rep!

**Gigantus** · March 27, 2014, 12:51 AM

One is glad to be of service

**gosho** · April 22, 2014, 09:22 AM

Hi, i tried to add a new unit from vanilla MTW2 to the third age submod MOS, but i got this CTD on the startup:

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I made the changes with notepad++ and i also checked with
the model checker but i didn't have errors.
This is the model db entry:

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and this is the EDU entry:

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The log said that it Could not find soldier battle model for unit type 'theigns' but why?

**gosho** · April 22, 2014, 09:32 AM

Hi, i tried to add a new unit from vanilla MTW2 to the third age submod MOS, but i got this CTD on the startup:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

I made the changes with notepad++ and i also checked with
the model checker but i didn't have errors.
This is the model db entry:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

and this is the EDU entry:

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The log said that it Could not find soldier battle model for unit type 'theigns' but why?

**Gigantus** · April 22, 2014, 09:38 AM

Did the modeldb checker turn out a log like below or was it empty?

Code:

Unit count at top of file       = 886
Number of processed unit models = 886
It is advisable that these two numbers should match.
Total errors:               0
String  count errors:       0
Faction count errors:       0

Else I would suspect the virtual store. See here from point three onward how to fix that.

**gosho** · April 22, 2014, 10:50 AM

No i have Xp sp3,
The modeldb checker give me a text file with this two erros but it's normal because he didn't recognize the faction of the submods and before i added the unit it worked well.

I send you the battle modelDB it the unit name is "theigns"

Thankyou for your attention

**Gigantus** · April 23, 2014, 12:41 AM

The checker doesn't recognize the formatting of the file, it will be the way the animation sequences are formatted - you will not get a useable text output.
What was the number in the first line of the modeldb before you started? If you haven't changed the number then the game cannot find the last entry.

Code:

22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 1464 0 0

If you want to test that, then replace all 'theigns' entries in your EDU with 'barrow_wights' (the second to last model).

**gosho** · April 23, 2014, 05:46 AM

Resolved!!!

I don't know exactly how but i delete this last original model's entry and everything works fine:

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Whats wrong with this model?

P.S

What was the number in the first line of the modeldb before you started? If you haven't changed the number then the game cannot find the last entry

Yes i always changed the number when i added or delete a entry.

**Gigantus** · April 23, 2014, 10:21 PM

This is the model before your theigns model. That would confirm my numbers theory - most likely the number was one short before you started and should have been 1465 with your model.

**zulerules** · April 27, 2014, 12:55 AM

When you are increasing the model count in the serialization archive, does one unit count as one model effectively?

**Gigantus** · April 28, 2014, 10:29 PM

A unit can have several upgrade models - each model counts toward the total of the serialization. Basically one entry is the part from the model name until the long number serial.

**Ayyubid** · June 18, 2014, 02:12 AM

So i'm trying to import 10 troops from BC 2.3.2, to SS6.3 with this submod installed over it - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...az-Unit-Roster

The problem is, their are 501 units in the SS 6.3 mod's edu when I count for ownership. Their are no instructions in the edu on how to remove units :-/

**Vipman** · June 18, 2014, 11:57 AM

500 units + 1 commented out at the start of the file where each line is explained. If there would be 501 units the game would crash I think.

You just delete the whole entry of a unit. Not necessary to remove stuff related to this unit (model, unit name/description). You could use Gracul's unit editor to import / add units/models so you don't have to do it by hand. But if you only want to copy/paste units from one mod to another it's probably easier than learning to use the tool

**Ayyubid** · June 18, 2014, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Vipman

500 units + 1 commented out at the start of the file where each line is explained. If there would be 501 units the game would crash I think.

You just delete the whole entry of a unit. Not necessary to remove stuff related to this unit (model, unit name/description). You could use Gracul's unit editor to import / add units/models so you don't have to do it by hand. But if you only want to copy/paste units from one mod to another it's probably easier than learning to use the tool

Wow, I had no idea there was an editor tool made for this. When you say delete the whole entry, you mean just from the edu right?

**Gigantus** · June 18, 2014, 10:03 PM

You will also have to remove references to the unit in the EDB, descr_mercenaries, descr_strat and descr_rebel_factions. ModelDB and text\export_units is not necessary.

**Vipman** · June 19, 2014, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ayyubid

Wow, I had no idea there was an editor tool made for this. When you say delete the whole entry, you mean just from the edu right?

Yes just EDU. And places Gigantus said. In your case I think it's easier to just do things manually, as you need to delete a unit then copy paste a new one.

**Ayyubid** · June 19, 2014, 09:46 PM

1. If I want the units allowed for multiple factions, how would I do so? If their are pre-existing units in the mod that I want to be able to use for other factions, how would I do that? I'm trying to make some units available for all Islamic factions, the moors, khwarezmians, fatimids, and seljuks. Some units I wouldn't even have to add, if I could just make some of the units already in the mod, available to other Islamic factions.

2. Gigantus, could you explain this part of you instructions in a bit more detail - "Do not forget to increase the model count number in the first line of the modelDB by the number of models you add"

**Gigantus** · June 20, 2014, 05:01 AM

1. That is this part of the instructions: All that is left are the recruitment entries in the export_descr_buildings (EDB) file which is an easy copy\paste operation. You will find those entries by searching for the type entry of your EDU entry, not the coded name entry (dictionary). It basically means that you have to create EDB entries for the factions that are listed in the ownership line of the EDU entry. If you are adding new factions then you will also have to create new entries in the modelDB.
2. It's the first line in the modelDB file: 22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 886 0 0

**Ayyubid** · June 21, 2014, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Gigantus

1. That is this part of the instructions: All that is left are the recruitment entries in the export_descr_buildings (EDB) file which is an easy copy\paste operation. You will find those entries by searching for the type entry of your EDU entry, not the coded name entry (dictionary). It basically means that you have to create EDB entries for the factions that are listed in the ownership line of the EDU entry. If you are adding new factions then you will also have to create new entries in the modelDB.
2. It's the first line in the modelDB file: 22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 886 0 0

1. So for example, if I wanted to make "Turkish Ghulams" that are already in my mod accessible to the moors, egypt, and khwarezms, I would copy the line in the EDB for them to be skinned properly, then add the faction names in the faction area of the "Turkish Ghulams" in the edu, right?

EX) For the EDU -

I would take this -

ownership turks
era 0 turks

and change it to this

ownership turks, egypt, moors, kwarezm
era 0 turks, egypt, moors, kwarezm

EX) For the EDB

I would take this -

recruit_pool "Turkish Ghulams" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { turks, }

And change it to this -

recruit_pool "Turkish Ghulams" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { turks, egypt, moors, kwarezm }

Or would I do this?

recruit_pool "Turkish Ghulams" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { turks, }

recruit_pool "Turkish Ghulams" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { egypt, }

recruit_pool "Turkish Ghulams" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { moors, }

recruit_pool "Turkish Ghulams" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { kwarezm, }

2. So the "886" would only increase by adding the number of units added? So if I added 10 units, it should be changed to 896?

3. I'm not adding any new factions, just some new units. So after I add a new unit from another mod to the modelDB, then the appearance and proper skinning of that unit for any faction, depends on the edu and edb right? Also, is their any number I need to change, like a "faction number" in the modelDB, edu, or edb for multiple factions? I really want to prevent the "silver surfer" and crashing issues.

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