Buildings and AoR

[Belovèse]

For the record, Belovèse, your original proposed code looks right to me.

I know, right? And it works in most of the wall levels!

Maybe just a typo somewhere, I'll have to look more closely at it.

[Withwnar]

Sorry, no, it's the wrong way around.

recruitment_slots 2 requires not event_counter freeze_recr_pool 1 and building_present_min_level farms farms+2 or building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers

...gives...

requires NOT COUNTER AND (BUILDING1 OR BUILDING2)

...which is what you're after.

Whereas yours...

recruitment_slots 2 requires building_present_min_level farms farms+2 or building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not event_counter freeze_recr_pool 1

...gives...

requires BUILDING1 OR (BUILDING2 AND NOT COUNTER)

[Belovèse]

Ahhhh, I understood the "read from right to left" wrongly then, it is in fact "resolved from right to left"?

[Withwnar]

Both, as I see it. But yeah, resolved is what I meant.

[Belovèse]

Both, as I see it. But yeah, resolved is what I meant.

Thanks, I think I just overcomplicated it in my head!

[Belovèse]

Well, I'm once again lost trying to understand EDB, could you guys give me a hand again?

I made this coding:

    south_italy_building2_stronghold requires factions { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, } and hidden_resource sicily or factions { sicily, } and not event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1

The way I understand it there is two xay for the building to be buildable:
- the faction is one of { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, }, there is the hidden ressource "sicily" and CONCENTRIC_CASTLES didn't happen.
- the faction is sicily and CONCENTRIC_CASTLES didn't happen

But the building does never appear for sicily in the building browser, what did I miss? Any help greatly appreciated!

[Jurand of Cracow]

In my notes I've got:

; requires factions { xxx, } and condition1 or factions {yyy, } and condition2
; is read: ( ( condition2 and factions {yyy, } ) or condition1 ) and factions { xxx, }
; this means: if factions { xxx, } is false then the entire result is also false, regardless of what else in there is true
; because the engine does NOT give precedence to ANDs before ORs
;
; this means: it is impossible to code (factions{A} and condition1) or (factions{B} and condition2)

[Belovèse]

Yes, that is also what is explained in the thread, but the logic I'm looking for is this one (parenthesis are there to explicit the priority I'm looking for) :

 ( factions { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, } AND hidden_resource sicily AND NOT event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1) OR ( factions { sicily, } AND NOT event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1 )

That's why I put the event_counter at the end of my proposed coding: it would be evaluated against everything to it's left.

    south_italy_building2_stronghold requires factions { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, } and hidden_resource sicily or factions { sicily, } and not event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1

I tried the logic with my excel spreadsheet, can't find the flaw. I'm wondering if there's something tricky with conditions we use?

[Jurand of Cracow]

My understanding is: it will always be false for the faction sicily because the most-right condition (list of factions) is always false on the sicilian turn.

[Belovèse]

Sorry, I don't understand: isn't the list of faction the left-most condition?

[Jurand of Cracow]

Sorry, I've meant most-left:

Sicily in the Sicilian lands in 12th century:
not event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1 -> TRUE ->
OR factions { sicily, } -> TRUE
AND hidden_resource sicily -> TRUE ->
factions { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, } -> FALSE


Sicily outside South Italy in 12th century:
not event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1 -> TRUE ->
OR factions { sicily, } -> TRUE
AND hidden_resource sicily -> FALSE ->
factions { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, } -> FALSE


Sicily in the Sicilian lands in 14th century:
not event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1 -> FALSE ->
OR factions { sicily, } -> TRUE
AND hidden_resource sicily -> TRUE ->
factions { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, } -> FALSE


Sicily outside South Italy in 14th century:
not event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1 -> FALSE ->
OR factions { sicily, } -> TRUE
AND hidden_resource sicily -> FALSE ->
factions { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, } -> FALSE

[Belovèse]

Ah yes you're absolutely right, I don't know why I can't get this EDB logic in my head...
I always twist it and confuse myself, even if your explanations and Whitwnar's are quite clear!

So I will test the whole tree and post on our subforum, but the coding for level 2 will be:

    south_italy_building2_stronghold requires event_counter dummy 1 or not event_counter CONCENTRIC_CASTLES 1 and factions { sicily, } or factions { hre, england, france, jerusalem, papal_states, } and hidden_resource sicily

IIRC "require not" is buggy so I had to add event_counter dummy 1.

[Jurand of Cracow]

I don't think this coding would work either. The ( negative + dummy ) solution works at the end of the line, but will it work at the beginning? I doubt.

[Belovèse]

Just tried it, it works! Good news for our new building tree