Army can now travel with Navy as one piece on the campaign map ?

[kamikazee786]

So i was just playing Rome II and i had an army and a navy garrisoned in Brundisium, Epirus had 2 full stacks coming at me so i had prepared in advance.

Anyway my ally, Sparta, besieged Larissa so i guess the Epirotes redirected their forces there, i thought i'd take the chance to take Apollonia.

I meant to take the navy out of my city to attack that city and unexpectedly my Army thought it'd be nice to come along.

this is new to me, im sure this wouldn't happen usually. When did CA patch this in ?

[pajomife]

So i was just playing Rome II and i had an army and a navy garrisoned in brundisium, Epirus had 2 full stacks coming at me, anyway Sparta attacked and took larrisa so i guess they redirected their forces there, i thought i'd take the chance to attack Apollonia.

I meant to take the navy out of my city to attack that city and unexpectedly my Army thought it'd be nice to come along.

this is new to me, im sure this wouldn't happen usually. When did CA patch this in ?

This is how the armies should travel in the sea,not with transports.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

they added that in 1.0

[kamikazee786]

This is how the armies should travel in the sea,not with transports.

The Army still travels on transports but they travel together as a single piece on the campaign map compared to the two that they usually travel for me

they added that in 1.0

And are you sure, this is the only time its happened for me, 7 patches later

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

And are you sure, this is the only time its happened for me, 7 patches later

100% played as macedon they got a weak navy to begin with. but I combined a land and that navy force. made a port attack which was all I ever dreamed of

[AngryTitusPullo]

they added that in 1.0

LOL yeah. It was there since the beginning.

[IlluminatiRex]

Been there since release, they even tell you to do it in the prologue.

[daelin4]

I believe what really happened was that you inadvertently had your army put INTO your fleet when it was at port when you put the two together; while it would LOOK like your army was put into garrison into the city, what really happened was, due to the spacing between clicking onto the city and onto the fleet being very small, you ended up ordering your army to embark onto the fleet.

You'll never really notice this unless you make this very mistake. There is no easy indicator to tell you whether you are just quartering them in the city or putting them into the fleet, like if the highlighted area turned blue to indicated the fleet's maximum movement range.

And yes, this was always a possibility since release. Just like how it was possible to torch gates in Shogun2. And like the latter, this is because there is no need to do so, transport fleets beating actual navies and all that.

[krisslanza]

I believe what really happened was that you inadvertently had your army put INTO your fleet when it was at port when you put the two together; while it would LOOK like your army was put into garrison into the city, what really happened was, due to the spacing between clicking onto the city and onto the fleet being very small, you ended up ordering your army to embark onto the fleet.

You'll never really notice this unless you make this very mistake. There is no easy indicator to tell you whether you are just quartering them in the city or putting them into the fleet, like if the highlighted area turned blue to indicated the fleet's maximum movement range.

And yes, this was always a possibility since release. Just like how it was possible to torch gates in Shogun2. And like the latter, this is because there is no need to do so, transport fleets beating actual navies and all that.

Except an actual navy will beat transports any day of the week, but sure, let's keep using the old argument of transports being OP.
But yeah, this was in since release. There's even a Naval Tradition that makes the fleet better if its escorting some transports, as I recall. There's usually not a big reason to do it though, unless you intend to sail your transports into hostile waters.

[daelin4]

Except an actual navy will beat transports any day of the week, but sure, let's keep using the old argument of transports being OP.
But yeah, this was in since release. There's even a Naval Tradition that makes the fleet better if its escorting some transports, as I recall. There's usually not a big reason to do it though, unless you intend to sail your transports into hostile waters.

Actual navy you'd have to produce on top of an army, and gradually as well, with infrastructure separate from actual armies. And by "actual" only if in large numbers and higher-tiered unit types you'd have to spend time and money to focus on.

An army? Make it and send it to the sea, since it could do both.

So yes, an old argument but still a good one.

Anyways like I said, this is rare and hardly used for the same reason: armies can do all that by themselves, and just placing armies near fleets have the same effect once battle occurs. It's just that there's no real point in having an army with a fleet unless you want some unnecessarily elaborate escort. What are the odds that an enemy fleet will catch your army off guard, let alone with the strength to challenge it?

[nameless]

Actual navy you'd have to produce on top of an army, and gradually as well, with infrastructure separate from actual armies. And by "actual" only if in large numbers and higher-tiered unit types you'd have to spend time and money to focus on.

That's no different from previous total wars but after trying transports against an AI fleet I find it difficult to believe it's that OP and people are defintely blowing it out of proportion. No one here has yet produced any screenshots from what I've seen of Transports annihilating navies with ease. We've seen screenshots of actual fleets wiping out transports in a 4 to 1 ratio.

It takes only a few turns to get the military wharf.

From the wharf you can start cranking out artillery ships which literally 1-shot transport ships and with missile ships they can easily down transports.

An army? Make it and send it to the sea, since it could do both.

That's inefficient because an army that's at sea is an army that's not fighting on land and with army limits that puts you at a disadvantage.

So yes, an old argument but still a good one.

Produce a screenshot showing a transport fleet beating an AI navy fleet and show that it's actually OP because it's definitely not. The AI is quite good at ramming and sorting it's ships through the melee. Like I said, we've seen pictures of navies destroying transports in a 4 to 1 ratio.

Anyways like I said, this is rare and hardly used for the same reason: armies can do all that by themselves, and just placing armies near fleets have the same effect once battle occurs. It's just that there's no real point in having an army
with a fleet unless you want some unnecessarily elaborate escort. What are the odds that an enemy fleet will catch your army off guard, let alone with the strength to challenge it?

Because with the amount of navies and armies traveling around the map it's more efficient to have a dedicated navy to hunt and destroy them while freeing your army to do what they're suppose to do. Fight on land and conquer.

Plus, it's not that hard to start producing the military wharfs which is enough to give you a decent enough fleets.

When I intercept a transport fleet I maybe lose 1 Javelin ship if I was careless and the entire enemy fleet is wiped out.

[Fallen Phalangite]

What I want to ask is: how did your get your campaign map to look so beautiful? What specific graphical mods are you using?

[kamikazee786]

What I want to ask is: how did your get your campaign map to look so beautiful? What specific graphical mods are you using?

Well im Using toon total war's all in one mod which contains the better water mod, i also use Lucifer hawks GEM mod, i tweaked my settings for months to get it like this but i could still make it better.

If you want i could upload my gem settings for you.

BTW, im also using Noifs Emblem mod for Rome, it really is better than the vanilla, all these mods are available from the workshop, remember to download Mitch's mod manager so that you can change the load order in case of a conflict with radious's mods (if you use any) .

I also have my settings all set to extreme, AA is off and shadows are on very high, Unlimited video memory is checked and the resolution is at 1080p

These are my specs and im amazed the game runs so well after patch 7 on an old machine like mine:

Processor: I5 2300 @ 2.8ghz (3.10 on turbo)
GPU: Amd Radeon HD 5850 (this is what shocks me the most, ive had this card since about 4 years now and it runs all my games on full settings so well )

8GB ram
win 7 64 bit
and a 7200rpm hdd

[Jihada]

I see there's a mod on SW which tries to make navy ships stronger than transports . I have it installed along with a lot of other mods so not sure if it's working right,
In vanilla game there's hardly any point even making fleets.

[krisslanza]

I see there's a mod on SW which tries to make navy ships stronger than transports . I have it installed along with a lot of other mods so not sure if it's working right,
In vanilla game there's hardly any point even making fleets.

It's not hard to make a mod for something that's already in the game. Transports are the worst ships of their type in the game. They're the slowest, most fragile, and least-effective ramming ships. The only way you could make them any weaker, is make them break apart from a gentle breeze, or make them unable to move.

[quiettfxgt]

You'll never really notice this unless you make this very mistake.

[AngryTitusPullo]

I think those who think that transport ships are OP is probably still playing 1.0 or haven't play it at all.