pike phalanx invincible

[atila9000]

is there any chance to defeat a pike phalanx frontally, because in multiplayer battles i always lose when i fight against pike factions. mainly because when i send to charge my infantry, they get anihilated in 3 seconds.

[karamazovmm]

don't send units frontally against pikes?

and the more people want that spear wall of death the more CA is giving us back what was in rome 1

I don't like it.

[Ataegina]

because this is accurate........... its a wall of death!!! it must be deadly and effecient if faced straight on, but invencible??? LOOOOL far from...see this have major issue.....to keep formation they're quite slow, needs space to manouver and unprotected flanks...... so use some low tier units as bait and wait for them, rush from the flanks and they'lll die quick....

real life example of how far from invincible, is roman-macedon war....... romans did won.....

[TheCenturion24]

Oh, for crying out-- the pikes in Rome II are pathetically UNDERPOWERED. They were meant to be the solid wall style units from Rome I, not this... this... 'formation' that gives you an extra defense bonus. Or rather, not so much the power... Rome I pikes were relatively weak in terms of killing off enemies, but were a very unique and viable tactic that had exploitable weaknesses as well as strengths. Pikes in Rome II are useless, both statistically and technically.

[prithupaul]

mainly because when i send to charge my infantry, they get anihilated in 3 seconds.

Obviously you dont know how to play the game, or at least how to play against pike phalanx. Please dont make ahistorical complaints like this. Pike phalanx is the one of the few things CA has managed to somewhat fix in Rome 2. Total War has going to hell because of pandering to "select & charge" players like you.

[Altimis]

is there any chance to defeat a pike phalanx frontally, because in multiplayer battles i always lose when i fight against pike factions. mainly because when i send to charge my infantry, they get anihilated in 3 seconds.

I see nothing wrong about it, its suppose to be like that

Pike Phalaxn got anihilated in 3 secons too if you successfully flank them

[totalwar_legend]

is there any chance to defeat a pike phalanx frontally, because in multiplayer battles i always lose when i fight against pike factions. mainly because when i send to charge my infantry, they get anihilated in 3 seconds.

Is this a joke question? The phalanx is set up specifically to be invincible for front on attacks. This comes with a weakness of being vulnerable at the flanks and rear. You're either silly or extremely lazy if you think attacking a pike phalanx head on is a viable option. The only time you should even consider such a thing is if your pikes are better.

[the lightning legion]

its still best not to attack even with better pikes the stationary units will do much better

[crzyrndm]

Throw some javelins at them. Some of the eastern ones in particular are sitting at 45 damage (11ap) on patch 7 beta which absolutely annihilates any standing target, and even the typical 39 damage (10ap) javelins are pretty good.

In melee? Forget about it. Levy pikes can rack up their own number in kills with ease against heavy swords, nevermind the actual quality pike units.

[jamreal18]

Charging phalanx frontally is suicide...

[Imber Pluvia]

Dude, the pikes are supposed to be strong from the front. Ordering your infantry to attack a pike unit head on is like asking someone to run into a spear. To beat them you should attack with skirmishers and then flank them when possible with infantry or cavalry. The pikes are useless once their flank is attacked. Remember that higher tier pikes are still better than the lower tier ones and can beat them head on.

[Plinius]

You should attack to sides and back of pike phalanxs. Never Ever your unit don´t allowed to be attacked by frontal attack.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

you need to use cavalry to beat pikemen in front. just charge them in front and the pikemen will be broken in 2 sec.

[JaM]

Everything would be fine, if there was option for javelin armed infantry to throw javelins at them... but as it is right now, it is only possible during charge, therefore, pike phalanx has the advantage. Its good to have pike phalanx working anyway its just one portion of the game, we still need to have other aspects working as well, otherwise overall balance is thrown off..

[AusHaching]

Does the "move through" exploit still work? If you don´t know what I'm talking about, just tell your melee units not to attack the pike, but move through the unit. Do that repeatedly, and they should get behind the initial front of pike tips. Once melee infantry has closed with the pikes, the pikes will lose badly. Of course, it is borderline cheating if it still works.

[Altimis]

Does the "move through" exploit still work? If you don´t know what I'm talking about, just tell your melee units not to attack the pike, but move through the unit. Do that repeatedly, and they should get behind the initial front of pike tips. Once melee infantry has closed with the pikes, the pikes will lose badly. Of course, it is borderline cheating if it still works.

I guess you never watch "World War Z" before

[AusHaching]

I guess you never watch "World War Z" before

?????? The movie with Brad Pitt??? Do they use pikes against Zombies?

[Kraxis]

?????? The movie with Brad Pitt??? Do they use pikes against Zombies?

In a sense yes. It's Muscovites actually. And it is probably one of the more effective ways to fight the zombies.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

In a sense yes. It's Muscovites actually. And it is probably one of the more effective ways to fight the zombies.

What we must have watch two different movies you and I

[Butan]

Does the "move through" exploit still work? If you don´t know what I'm talking about, just tell your melee units not to attack the pike, but move through the unit. Do that repeatedly, and they should get behind the initial front of pike tips. Once melee infantry has closed with the pikes, the pikes will lose badly. Of course, it is borderline cheating if it still works.

It still works and when the AI rush the flags in some sieges, once they reaches it they will attack your back if they are not already broken of course.