whats up with Dragoons without carbines?

**lalalax3** · September 24, 2006, 11:05 PM

i thought traditinally dragoons are armed with carbines
where did they go in the game?

**The Black Reaper** · September 24, 2006, 11:09 PM

they would not act like wat the Lordz want due to the AI of the game... if you chased them they they would run away... etc. etc.

**Darkarbiter** · September 24, 2006, 11:15 PM

This has to be at least the third thread... plz someone pin a thread about missle units.

**lalalax3** · September 24, 2006, 11:21 PM

couldn't the vanilla missile cavalry disable skirmish mode?

**The Black Reaper** · September 24, 2006, 11:26 PM

no even after they ran out of ammo they would keep running and running and running and running and running forever.....

**Mooncabbage** · September 25, 2006, 04:34 AM

But I charge with my dragoons.... and things tend to rout and die when I do that.... carbines would make them INVINSTIBLE!

p.s. Dragoons ftw

p.p.s. The Dragoons do have carbines, check the models, they just can't use them ^^. Maybe they ran out of spare parts?

**lalalax3** · September 25, 2006, 03:49 PM

after some tweaking, my friend was able to make missle cavalry, they didnt run, and they charged when ordered to

**The Black Reaper** · September 25, 2006, 06:38 PM

guys bring it up with LZoF, somewhere in the Lordz forums someone asked why some cav doesnt have rifles... LZoF game good reasons why but i cant think of it at the top of my head right now.. so ask him why in PM so you dont have to clutter the forum in questions that the dev team already decided not to include

**Lord Shand** · September 25, 2006, 10:04 PM

lol im trying my hardest not to post something rude and obnoxious about repetitive posts on the same bloody subject.......lol screw it!

We have stated NUMEROUS times our reasons for not including cav units with firearms, foremost reason being it is historically not needed and secondly the gameplay does not suit it.

**Mooncabbage** · September 25, 2006, 10:17 PM

Damn straight.

**The Black Reaper** · September 25, 2006, 11:36 PM

Lord Shand strikes again!!! lol

**Element-UK** · October 20, 2006, 06:33 AM

We need a TW game where the Cav can Dismount to fire, then remount. Then it would work gameplay-wise. it was a long drawn out argument in NTW 1. I for one got them working just fine with limited ranges and accuracy and very limited ammo, ie 2-3 rnds. However some liked it and the Lordz did not. So it ended. Until we see a game that can be modded to suit the Loedz, it will never happen. Personally, I would rather see more variety in Infantry units than a wasted Dragoon unit that does not even have a limited capacity to fire. IE, if it cant be historic, dump the idea all together.

**Adherbal** · October 20, 2006, 11:12 AM

dragoons did nolonger act as mounted infantry during the napoleonic era.

**Kroz** · November 09, 2006, 09:39 PM

What if you gave them one shot and made it a secondary weapon that was used before a charge. They would be melee cavalry and still shoot but only once, or twice. I'm just spurting out suggestions.

Too bad the AI isnt' like on MTW. I would have gunpowder battles and if I had Arquebusiers, and they had handgunners, they would just charge my lines with them and win because they knew they would beat me in melee. If RTW did this I guess you wouldn't have to worry about this problem.