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    Default [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat


    Another Song of Quills and Swords

    Or: Songs 2: Electric Boogaloo


    I plan on making a brief return to hotseating. As such, I have invited a few fellow players to this hotseat. Many have already agreed to take part.

    The scenario is the Age of Kingdoms submod, created by myself. Download of the portrait pack is highly recommended.

    Players will have 48 hours to play their turns, with an optional 24 hour extension available as normal. Playing your turn earlier is highly recommended of course.

    Players are on the basis of invitation-only to start with to ensure a rough skill balance.

    As the AoK submod is fairly new and untested, we will use random faction allocation.


    Rules:

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    1. You have 48 turns to take your turn, if you don't ask for an extension or don't have appointed a personal sub you will be skipped.
    2. It is not allowed to abuse bugs to your or anyones advantage. These are a few of the known bugs:
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    • The naval fort bug: No using ships to bypass a fort or a settlements Zone of Control.
    • Spam siege bug: Besieging a fort or a settlement with a force far superior in it, in order to either prevent that army from reinforcing or in order to cut down a settlements income is not allowed.
    • Fort watchtower bug: Constructing watchtowers in order to prevent forting is not allowed. You can construct watchtowers, but you will be asked to replay if it is obvious the reason why the watchtower has been built is to prevent forting
    • Heroic victory bug: No Heroic victories at all. If you get a heroic victory you must reload until you get a different result, and if you cannot get a different result then you will not be allowed to play the battle.
    • Ambush fort bug: No luring men in ambush position into ZoC of forts\settlement's as such robbing them of their movement points.
    • Siege reinforcement bug: when the army is adjacent to a fort or a settlements that has been put under siege it cannot reinforce armies adjacent to him which he should have been able to reinforce on normal occasions. Attacking an army which the siege reinforcements bug applies to is not allowed
    • Navy inside ports attacked bug: no using this bug to attack ships which are inside ports.
    • Yoyo armies\forts bug: no attacking an army which the bug has been used on mutliple times. You can see when this bug accures, as the enemy army enters the fort and then leaves it:
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      The bug: a defeated army whom CAN fit a fort, enters it, and then leaves it, making it posssible for the enemy to attack again and again until nothing remains of that army
      What is supposed to happen is the defeated army who can fit the fort, enters it and stays there. Making it impossible for the enemy to attack again and again

      Why it happens: a retreated army, and you can test it yourself, will never retreat to one of an enemy's ZoC squares. Because of this, when this situation happens (example):
      A lannister army is adjacent to a fort. An enemy army (Stark for example) lands on one of the fort's ZoC squares, and then attacks the Lannister army. The lannister army retreats to the nearest safe location, like the AI always does. He attempts to retreat to the fort
      He reaches the fort and enters it. But a problem- the retreating army is adjacent to the Stark's army ZoC square. The Lannister army is forced to leave the fort and pops up beside it. This bug happens only in forts, not in towns\castles

    3. You are not allowed to encircle a character, just to deny its retreat - This applies to all character types including diplomats, princesses
    4. Destroying buildings is not allowed AT ANY TIME - the only exception being religious buildings
    5. The minimum number of men in the fort must be equal or greater then 400 men. Cavalry Units/Generals Count as double
    6. You are not allowed to attack a besieging army just to deny the enemy of sacking the settlement.
    7. You have to VM/PM the next player after you upload your save.
    8. Posting pictures of battle odds, and results is mandatory.
    9. The recruitments of spies\assasins and their use is prohibited
    10. Armies defeated cannot move next turn Exception: Reinforcing armies in fortification, even if defeated, don't lose movement points. So player 'a' should be allowed to move the army that reinforced another while in a fort and was defeated by 'b'.
    Addendum to the same rule: no sallying out of a fort\castle which has forces which were defeated last turn. This is to make it fair for those who come last at the turn order, because they will not be able to do this
    11. No sailing from a blockaded port without first defeating the blockade (land or sea units alike).
    12. It is not allowed to accept money or regions from dying/obliterated factions.
    13. It is not allowed use a princess to steal a general, unless there is more then 35% of success. (pics must be posted)
    14. Settlements gifted should disband all units, except for one to keep public order.
    15. One turn peace for everybody
    16. The recruitment of siege equipments (Ballista, Catapults, etc.) and their use is prohibited.
    17. Armies which are stationed on a ship in port purely for the purpose of 'hiding' from enemy land forces will not be allowed to attack on the turn they are disembarked. (This only applies when it is essentially bug abuse (See rule 19))
    18. It is illegal to burn down ports in order to get around rule 11- if your port is blockaded and there are ships inside that port, if you burn down the port the ship is not allowed to move that turn.
    19. The admin's decision's need to be respected. Arguing with the admin is not allowed, and if you refuse to respect the admin's ruling you will be kicked out from the Hotseat
    20. No giving land or money to dying factions
    21. No blockading an army/settlement/port on turn 1. Nor can you surround a port/settlement/army to deny all avenues of movement..
    22. No forting inside enemies land on turn 1
    23. No violating another's borders on turn 1 - no armies can end their turn in another's land.
    24. Faction draw will be entirely random and will be drawn by Badger-dude. No swapping factions
    25. Save Format is Songs2_Faction_#




    Map:
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    Turn 1:




    Players:

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    • Badger-Dude
    • Dux
    • Mithridate
    • Emperor of Hell
    • Hannibal
    • Korpskog
    • The Forgotten




    Factions:

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    • The Kingdom of the Westerlands: - Dux
    • The Kingdom of the Reach - Hannibal
    • The Kingdom of the North - Badger-Dude
    • The Kingdom of the Mountains and Vale - Mithridate
    • The Kingdom of the Iron Islands and the Western Shore - The Forgotten
    • The Kingdom of the Stormlands and the Riverlands - Korpskog
    • The Kingdom of Dorne - Emperor of Hell


    Last edited by Badger-dude; November 14, 2013 at 03:19 PM.

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    i would like to join

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Quote Originally Posted by jnedz View Post
    i would like to join
    Hi there,

    ttahnks for registeriing your interest.

    Currently, all the slots are full (See the above player list - just waiting for one more confirmation!)

    I'd advise you check out the replacements thread for a more newbie-friendly hotseat - this one will be full of sour old veterans :-P

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    I reserve the right to shoot myself in the face if I get the North

    -Mithridate
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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithridate View Post
    I reserve the right to shoot myself in the face if I get the North

    -Mithridate
    I feel that way normally in Westeros about Stark and Martell, but in this scenario they are actually in a pretty good position. Plus, Ice Eyes is quite the badass.

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Quote Originally Posted by Badger-dude View Post
    I feel that way normally in Westeros about Stark and Martell, but in this scenario they are actually in a pretty good position. Plus, Ice Eyes is quite the badass.
    I do alright :p

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Somehow this feels like a sitdown between the heads of the five famillies! Can't wait to get starting!
    "Får jag kalla dig Bajen? Det är lättare att komma ihåg..."

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    So when will the factions be allocated?

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Just waiting on one more response

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    We are now full! Forgotten has taken up his place.

    I will post the version of AoK we will be using and then allocate factions. I am thinking in the interest of fairness of doing a 'live' draw to make it the most transparent

    What timezones are everyone in?

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Everybody except The Forgotten is GMT+1 or English I think
    "Får jag kalla dig Bajen? Det är lättare att komma ihåg..."

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Mid M'urica here baby! GMT -6

    And I swear, if I have to fight a Greyjoy/Mith one. more. time...

    Many thanks to the good folks down at the Graphics Workshop for the sig.

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    So whats it gona be? I love Draws!!
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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Quote Originally Posted by Korpskog View Post
    So whats it gona be? I love Draws!!
    Just need to finish balancing Version 2 of Age of Kingdoms. Martell and Storm had no generals compared to the rest :-p

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    In the interest of speed, I will be drawing the player list this evening at 9pm GMT. If anyone wants to view to back up my integrity, please feel free to come in here at 9pm

    Can anyone recommend a good free sharemyscreen place?

    I will draw three times , the third draw being final (Just to make sure it is fair). First two results won't count, just the third.

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Quote Originally Posted by Badger-dude View Post
    In the interest of speed, I will be drawing the player list this evening at 9pm GMT. If anyone wants to view to back up my integrity, please feel free to come in here at 9pm

    Can anyone recommend a good free sharemyscreen place?

    I will draw three times , the third draw being final (Just to make sure it is fair). First two results won't count, just the third.
    I always use Imgur for sharing pics, very easy to use, easy uploading and even gives you the link to share on forums- so makes it even easier
    Hope that helps

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Quote Originally Posted by Uriyaca View Post
    I always use Imgur for sharing pics, very easy to use, easy uploading and even gives you the link to share on forums- so makes it even easier
    Hope that helps
    Hi Uri,

    I meant screen sharing as in a live video feed/stream

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Quote Originally Posted by Badger-dude View Post
    Hi Uri,

    I meant screen sharing as in a live video feed/stream
    Only streaming site I know is twitch
    And for sharing videos Youtube probably?

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    Drawing factions now as promised

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    Default Re: [Hotseat] Another Song of Quills and Swords: An Age of Kingdoms Hotseat

    So here is the result.

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    Video was taken just in case.

    Grrr. I hate the bloody North!

    • The Kingdom of the Westerlands: - Dux
    • The Kingdom of the Reach - Hannibal
    • The Kingdom of the North - Badger-Dude
    • The Kingdom of the Mountains and Vale - Mithridate
    • The Kingdom of the Iron Islands and the Western Shore - The Forgotten
    • The Kingdom of the Stormlands and the Riverlands - Korpskog
    • The Kingdom of Dorne - Emperor of Hell


    Actually, I think this will work well. Everyone appears to be out of their 'natural' comfort zone
    Last edited by Badger-dude; November 14, 2013 at 03:20 PM.

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