{DIK} Discussion

[LEZVIE]

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[Der Böse Wolf]

Hey Aneirin,

I played on Hard/hard, which is my go-to formula.

However, do you recommend a different setting?

Thanks!

[Aneirin]

Hey Aneirin,

I played on Hard/hard, which is my go-to formula.

However, do you recommend a different setting?

Thanks!

Well, that's my setting too.

[Jurand of Cracow]

I always play Medieval 2 VH/VH, to be frank.

[shikaka]

Downloaded the mod, for some reason I was not aware of it. Looks awesome.

Two questions:
1: what is the easiest, but fun italian faction to start learning the game with? (not spanish, german, or otto)

2: Is the development of the Hungary faction finished? I found some strange things which you might want to correct. Or might not. If you plan to review it at a point, I can collect them for you. (but I wouldn't bother if you don't want to change them) I mean things like providing historical generals, collect the serbian (?) names of provinces (like "knyazhevo"?)

[Aneirin]

I am not that fond of VH. In particular because of the AI bonus in battle (number of hits).

[Der Böse Wolf]

I am not that fond of VH. In particular because of the AI bonus in battle (number of hits).

You have one of the best BAI I have seen, and on Hard.

But what about the CAI? Did you try it on VH?
Do the rebels attack the player?

[Aneirin]

Cheers, but that is Germanicu's work

As for your question, I adjusted the slave's AI to be more active on the campaign map.
So they'll probably will attack

[Der Böse Wolf]

Cheers, but that is Germanicu's work

As for your question, I adjusted the slave's AI to be more active on the campaign map.
So they'll probably will attack

You mean you adjusted the slaves' AI to be more aggressive on Hard difficulty in the new upcoming patch?

[Der Böse Wolf]

You mean you adjusted the slaves' AI to be more aggressive on Hard difficulty in the new upcoming patch?

Hey Aeirin,

any feedback regarding my question? I would like to start a new campaign and wondering if I should play on vh/vh or h/h

And a couple more questions: did you finally include a garrison script for key cities?

Cheers.

[Aneirin]

Hey Aeirin,

any feedback regarding my question? I would like to start a new campaign and wondering if I should play on vh/vh or h/h

And a couple more questions: did you finally include a garrison script for key cities?

Cheers.

Hey there,
as for your question, yes I did alter the slaves so they are going to be more aggressive
I'd suggest H/H, but that should depend on your own preferences.

About the garrison script, I am afraid no, I did not include it. To be honest I am not very fond of it in terms of gameplay. They provide a too great advantage to the AI.

Best
Aneirin

[Der Böse Wolf]

Thanks for the feedback.

To be honest the AI needs every help it can get and the Garrison Script, for at least key capitals, is a nice, realistic AI boost as it represents the inhabitants taking up arms to defend the city.

I understand you do not like VH battle AI because of the unrealistic morale and hit points to the AI.
But what about Campaign AI?
Did you test it at VH? Is it more aggressive or rather suicidal?

I have been watching the new Let's Play in French on YT ( I shared the link a few posts above) and he is paying at H/H and I feel the AI can be a tad more aggressive and have better morale in battle.
So maybe VH/VH is worth testing?

So when can we expect this highly anticipated update to be finally released?
I am delaying my new campaign waiting for this

Cheers,
DBW

[Der Böse Wolf]

Here are a few current ongoing Let's Plays with this lovely mod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sddptj4-o34&t=1318s > Republic of Ragusa, in English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvwMRaEzPCU&t=1203s > Kiingdom of Spain, in Spanish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIsv9TYLyx4&t=102s > Kingdom of France, in French

[Aneirin]

Thanks for the feedback.

To be honest the AI needs every help it can get and the Garrison Script, for at least key capitals, is a nice, realistic AI boost as it represents the inhabitants taking up arms to defend the city.

I understand you do not like VH battle AI because of the unrealistic morale and hit points to the AI.
But what about Campaign AI?
Did you test it at VH? Is it more aggressive or rather suicidal?

I have been watching the new Let's Play in French on YT ( I shared the link a few posts above) and he is paying at H/H and I feel the AI can be a tad more aggressive and have better morale in battle.
So maybe VH/VH is worth testing?

So when can we expect this highly anticipated update to be finally released?
I am delaying my new campaign waiting for this

Cheers,
DBW

Sure, the AI is always in need of some 'human-scripting help' though, there is a kind of garrison script in place already. The script for the independent cities and republics. I'll see if I kind find some time to expand it to more cities.

Just go ahead VH as campaign AI sounds like fun to play. Feel free to give it a shot and share your thoughts on the AI.

As for the release date, that is hardly to say right now. It is absolutely depended on my amount of spare time,
which is currently none existent. No worries, I'll guess some time this year

Here are a few current ongoing Let's Plays with this lovely mod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sddptj4-o34&t=1318s > Republic of Ragusa, in English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvwMRaEzPCU&t=1203s > Kiingdom of Spain, in Spanish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIsv9TYLyx4&t=102s > Kingdom of France, in French

Awesome, thank's I'll have a look at these some time on the weekend

[dikaios]

Hi, first of all I would like to say Aneirin I sincerely thank you for this amazing mod! I have been following for a long time the development of this mod but just now I found the time to try it out in the 5.0 version. I am very pleased with the whole content but I would like to ask something. I can't find how to recruit Footmen, Hadjuks, Armoured Hussars and Militia Miners as Hungary. Is their recruitment tied to an event? If that's the case then which is this event and which are the requirements for it to happen?

EDIT: Alright I found out how to train some of the units! For Hajduks you have to first lose and then recapture Bihac. After that you'll be able to train Hajduks at the settlements where you have inns.
For Uskoks you have to first lose and then recapture Sinj. After that you'll be able to train Uskoks at the settlements where you have dirt roads (basically everywhere).
For Armored Hussars I believe (have not tested it yet) it is tied to an event about requesting help from Poland. Or that was at least in the previous versions of the mod.

About the Footmen and the Militia Miners I couldn't find anything. Any help will be appreciated!

[Der Böse Wolf]

Hi Aneirin,

I hope you are doing great.

We are still eagerly waiting for the last update you are working on.

Any news on the progress?

Cheers!

[Xaldin96]

Please, Aneirin, finish it!! You're SOOOOO close to complete this masterpiece!!!

[Aneirin]

Okay guys, I found some time this afternoon and prepare a release of what I've got so far.
Though it won't be a bug tested version, but mostly playable and with tones of new scripts eg. Condotta

Best Aneirin

[Jurand of Cracow]

Okay guys, I found some time this afternoon and prepare a release of what I've got so far.
Though it won't be a bug tested version, but mostly playable and with tones of new scripts eg. Condotta

Best Aneirin

We're happy anytime you happen to be online :-)
BTW, have you messed with the resources / trade system in the past?
I've been recently working on this in the SSHIP

;=========================================================================================================== SCANDINAVIA;
; furs and timber are present in many Scandinavia provinces are given due to both historical considerations and also to the M2TW engine mechanics: provinces do not trade with the same resources
; (thus placing these resources in each province DISables unhistorical trade between them, but enables the very historical overseas exports with the warehouses - this is even more historical since they'll be build rightly late, perhaps late 13c.)


;  BERGEN - Bergen_Province
resource	tin,		113,	286		; tribute for the overseas: tusk from Island and Greenland
resource	tin,		113,	286		; tribute for the north: stockfish from Lofoten, tolls from Nidaros
resource	fish,		122,	266		; fish from the open seas
resource	fish,		138,	265		; fish from the coastal waters
resource	timber,		119,	280		; timber and pitch the longships were made of (from nearby woods)


;  OSLO - Oslo_Province
resource	camels,		163,	274		; honey and wax from the woods
resource	ivory,		159,	285		; butter from the farmers in the Dalen
resource	timber,		151,	273		; timber and pitch the longships were made of (from nearby woods)


;  SWERIKE - Sigtuna_Province
resource	iron,		196,	285		; copper from Dalarna region
resource	furs,		172,	278		; furs from the deep woods (no trade with Kalmar and Skara, but with Lund, Gdansk or Novgorod)
resource	timber,		198,	273		; timber from the woods


;  GOTALAND - Skara_Province
resource	furs,		182,	269		; furs from the northern forests
resource	timber,		170,	262		; timber from the woods


;  GOTLAND - Visby_Province
resource	tin,		212,	260		; tolls from the Baltic trade for Visby was an important hub


;  SMALAND - Kalmar_Province
resource	furs,		184,	259		; furs from the northern forests
resource	timber,		194,	257		; timber from the woods


;  SKANE - Lund_Province
resource	tin,		169,	249		; tolls on the Sund strait (nice placement on the water)
resource	tin,		169,	249
resource	fish,		174,	244		; the cogs of the Hanseatic League would always come from Lubeck to Skane, buy fish and get it to the east
resource	fish,		185,	250


;  ZELAND - Roskilde_Province
resource	sulfur,		167,	246		; linen produced for Roskilde and Lund
resource	camels,		160,	245		; honey was the main sweetener in this part of the world (to be checked if this is the best choice for the resource here... not sure)


;  JUTLAND - Ribe_Province
resource	chocolate,	143,	245		; glass industry next to Ribe
resource	fish,		152,	253		; fish from all around coast
resource	fish,		142,	257




;=========================================================================================================== BALTICS


;  FINLAND - Turku_Province
; no need for timber placement (what would have been needed if one needs to prevent unhistorical imports from Sweden) since Finland is very unlikely to be a destination of sea trade from any other province (there're many better alternatives), and exports to Novgorod is unlikely
resource	furs,		244,	284		; the northern furs of exquisite quality (not tradable with many other provinces but with Novgorod yes)


;  ESTONIA - Kolyvan_Province
resource	amber,		250,	266     ; the most northern resource of amber
resource	camels,		260,	268     ; honey from the woods (no more furs or fish - they're in the neighbouring provinces)


;  LATVIA - Riga_Province
resource	tobacco,	246,	255		; salt on the coast
resource	fish,		238,	260		; fish from the Riga bay
resource	amber,		230,	255     ; the most northern source of amber


;  LITHUANIA - Kernave_Province
resource	amber,		230,	248		; for centuries the second best place to dig amber. Good spot for a merchant.
resource	amber,		230,	248
resource	sulfur,		245,	239		; linen produced for the capital
resource	camels,		256,	244		; honey from the woods
resource	tin,		251,	240		; luxurious stuff from the capital


;  BLACK RUTHENIA - Hrodna_Province
resource	textiles,	246,	229     ; TEXTILES: local industry in a culturaly quite developed province
resource	camels,		256,	229     ; HONEY from the woods


;  PRUSSIA - Twangste_Province
; no timber, furs - they'll be imported from the neighbouring provinces, so it can be reconsidered
resource	fish,		227,	243		; FISH will not be traded with Gdansk
resource	amber,		221,	240		; AMBER in Sambia peninsula - for centuries it was the best place for extracting it. Good spot for a merchant.
resource	amber,		221,	240
resource	dogs,		217,	229		; FRUITS from the very feritile Dobrzyn region




;=========================================================================================================== CENTRAL EUROPE
;	iron -> Metals		ivory -> Oil		tobacco -> Salt		chocolate -> Glass		sulfur -> Linen
;	coal -> Herbs		dogs -> Fruits		camels -> Honey		tin -> Luxury Goods		elephants -> Cattle
;	gold, silver, marble, timber, slaves, amber, textiles, dyes, silk, cotton, furs, wool, spices, sugar, wine, grain, fish


;  MASOVIA - Plock_Province
resource	camels,		236,	217		; honey from the woods (no trade with Lithuania and Wielkopolska, and this is ok)
resource	furs,		231,	225		; furs from the woods


;  POLONIA MINOR - Krakow_Province
resource	tin,		226,	208     ; luxury stuff produced at the rulers court
resource	silver,		221,	211		; lead mines at Olkusz
resource	tobacco,	228,	205		; salt in Wieliczka and Bochnia (salines, and from 2nd part of 13c also mines)
resource	grain,		236,	209		; grain in the Vistula valley
resource	grain,		229,	208		; grain in the Vistula valley


;  POLONIA MAIOR - Poznan_Province
resource	grain,		211,	226		; Kujawia and region around Thorn was very feritile in the MA
resource	chocolate,	201,	224		; glass industry was present in the Polonia Maior cities
resource	furs,		209,	219		; from the forests around (no trade with Masovia)


;  SILESIA - Wroclaw_Province
resource	dogs,		200,	217		; Odra valley was very feritile and fruits were abound
resource	sulfur,		195,	217		; linen craft was essential source of Silesian wealth
resource	iron,		190,	213		; the Ostsiedlung in 13c. started with gold rush in Silesia (city of Goldberg). Wroclaw wealth was build upon it even if more other metals were dug.


;  POMERANIA GEDANENSIS - Gdansk_Province
resource	fish,		199,	238		; fish was the staple of the population
resource	textiles,	214,	231		; textiles production was very developed in Gdansk and other cities
resource	tin,		214,	236		; represents the trade that made Gdansk the biggest city both in Poland and in the Baltics in 15/16c.
resource	amber,		211,	238		; coast of the Bay of Gdansk abounded with amber (no trade with Prussia)


;  POMERANIA - Szczecin_Province
resource	fish,		187,	235		; fish was the staple


;  BRANDENBURG - Brandeburg_Province
; throughout the Middle Ages this was not very rich province so only two low-income resources
resource	dogs,		174,	222		; fruits
resource	camels,		169,	228		; honey


;  MECKLEMBURG - Lubeck_Province
resource	tin,		157,	234		; the city was the hub of trade given it's geographical location and trade power
resource	tin,		157,	234
resource	tobacco,	154,	230		; salt from Luneburg: it was imported from the Elbe valley but was a main export of Lubeck to the east. In the M2TW engine it's best to give it to Lubeck.


;  MORAVIA - Olomoc_Province
resource	camels,		198,	203		; honey from the woods (fits the neighbouring provinces well)
resource	iron,		192,	199		; metals from the Jihlava (Iglau) region, but it signifies the overall abundance of this stuff also in the Sudeten Mts.


;  BOHEMIA - Prague_Province
resource	iron,		176,	208		; Bohemia had plenty of metals in Rudavy mts., as also in the south
resource	silver,		188,	202		; silver mines of Kutna Hora supplied 1/3 of Europe's demand for silver in 14c.
resource	silver,		188,	202
resource	sulfur,		175,	203		; linen was produced and exported (in 15c. whole cloth industry developed)

[Aneirin]

We're happy anytime you happen to be online :-)
BTW, have you messed with the resources / trade system in the past?
I've been recently working on this in the SSHIP

;=========================================================================================================== SCANDINAVIA;
; furs and timber are present in many Scandinavia provinces are given due to both historical considerations and also to the M2TW engine mechanics: provinces do not trade with the same resources
; (thus placing these resources in each province DISables unhistorical trade between them, but enables the very historical overseas exports with the warehouses - this is even more historical since they'll be build rightly late, perhaps late 13c.)


;  BERGEN - Bergen_Province
resource    tin,        113,    286        ; tribute for the overseas: tusk from Island and Greenland
resource    tin,        113,    286        ; tribute for the north: stockfish from Lofoten, tolls from Nidaros
resource    fish,        122,    266        ; fish from the open seas
resource    fish,        138,    265        ; fish from the coastal waters
resource    timber,        119,    280        ; timber and pitch the longships were made of (from nearby woods)


;  OSLO - Oslo_Province
resource    camels,        163,    274        ; honey and wax from the woods
resource    ivory,        159,    285        ; butter from the farmers in the Dalen
resource    timber,        151,    273        ; timber and pitch the longships were made of (from nearby woods)


;  SWERIKE - Sigtuna_Province
resource    iron,        196,    285        ; copper from Dalarna region
resource    furs,        172,    278        ; furs from the deep woods (no trade with Kalmar and Skara, but with Lund, Gdansk or Novgorod)
resource    timber,        198,    273        ; timber from the woods


;  GOTALAND - Skara_Province
resource    furs,        182,    269        ; furs from the northern forests
resource    timber,        170,    262        ; timber from the woods


;  GOTLAND - Visby_Province
resource    tin,        212,    260        ; tolls from the Baltic trade for Visby was an important hub


;  SMALAND - Kalmar_Province
resource    furs,        184,    259        ; furs from the northern forests
resource    timber,        194,    257        ; timber from the woods


;  SKANE - Lund_Province
resource    tin,        169,    249        ; tolls on the Sund strait (nice placement on the water)
resource    tin,        169,    249
resource    fish,        174,    244        ; the cogs of the Hanseatic League would always come from Lubeck to Skane, buy fish and get it to the east
resource    fish,        185,    250


;  ZELAND - Roskilde_Province
resource    sulfur,        167,    246        ; linen produced for Roskilde and Lund
resource    camels,        160,    245        ; honey was the main sweetener in this part of the world (to be checked if this is the best choice for the resource here... not sure)


;  JUTLAND - Ribe_Province
resource    chocolate,    143,    245        ; glass industry next to Ribe
resource    fish,        152,    253        ; fish from all around coast
resource    fish,        142,    257




;=========================================================================================================== BALTICS


;  FINLAND - Turku_Province
; no need for timber placement (what would have been needed if one needs to prevent unhistorical imports from Sweden) since Finland is very unlikely to be a destination of sea trade from any other province (there're many better alternatives), and exports to Novgorod is unlikely
resource    furs,        244,    284        ; the northern furs of exquisite quality (not tradable with many other provinces but with Novgorod yes)


;  ESTONIA - Kolyvan_Province
resource    amber,        250,    266     ; the most northern resource of amber
resource    camels,        260,    268     ; honey from the woods (no more furs or fish - they're in the neighbouring provinces)


;  LATVIA - Riga_Province
resource    tobacco,    246,    255        ; salt on the coast
resource    fish,        238,    260        ; fish from the Riga bay
resource    amber,        230,    255     ; the most northern source of amber


;  LITHUANIA - Kernave_Province
resource    amber,        230,    248        ; for centuries the second best place to dig amber. Good spot for a merchant.
resource    amber,        230,    248
resource    sulfur,        245,    239        ; linen produced for the capital
resource    camels,        256,    244        ; honey from the woods
resource    tin,        251,    240        ; luxurious stuff from the capital


;  BLACK RUTHENIA - Hrodna_Province
resource    textiles,    246,    229     ; TEXTILES: local industry in a culturaly quite developed province
resource    camels,        256,    229     ; HONEY from the woods


;  PRUSSIA - Twangste_Province
; no timber, furs - they'll be imported from the neighbouring provinces, so it can be reconsidered
resource    fish,        227,    243        ; FISH will not be traded with Gdansk
resource    amber,        221,    240        ; AMBER in Sambia peninsula - for centuries it was the best place for extracting it. Good spot for a merchant.
resource    amber,        221,    240
resource    dogs,        217,    229        ; FRUITS from the very feritile Dobrzyn region




;=========================================================================================================== CENTRAL EUROPE
;    iron -> Metals        ivory -> Oil        tobacco -> Salt        chocolate -> Glass        sulfur -> Linen
;    coal -> Herbs        dogs -> Fruits        camels -> Honey        tin -> Luxury Goods        elephants -> Cattle
;    gold, silver, marble, timber, slaves, amber, textiles, dyes, silk, cotton, furs, wool, spices, sugar, wine, grain, fish


;  MASOVIA - Plock_Province
resource    camels,        236,    217        ; honey from the woods (no trade with Lithuania and Wielkopolska, and this is ok)
resource    furs,        231,    225        ; furs from the woods


;  POLONIA MINOR - Krakow_Province
resource    tin,        226,    208     ; luxury stuff produced at the rulers court
resource    silver,        221,    211        ; lead mines at Olkusz
resource    tobacco,    228,    205        ; salt in Wieliczka and Bochnia (salines, and from 2nd part of 13c also mines)
resource    grain,        236,    209        ; grain in the Vistula valley
resource    grain,        229,    208        ; grain in the Vistula valley


;  POLONIA MAIOR - Poznan_Province
resource    grain,        211,    226        ; Kujawia and region around Thorn was very feritile in the MA
resource    chocolate,    201,    224        ; glass industry was present in the Polonia Maior cities
resource    furs,        209,    219        ; from the forests around (no trade with Masovia)


;  SILESIA - Wroclaw_Province
resource    dogs,        200,    217        ; Odra valley was very feritile and fruits were abound
resource    sulfur,        195,    217        ; linen craft was essential source of Silesian wealth
resource    iron,        190,    213        ; the Ostsiedlung in 13c. started with gold rush in Silesia (city of Goldberg). Wroclaw wealth was build upon it even if more other metals were dug.


;  POMERANIA GEDANENSIS - Gdansk_Province
resource    fish,        199,    238        ; fish was the staple of the population
resource    textiles,    214,    231        ; textiles production was very developed in Gdansk and other cities
resource    tin,        214,    236        ; represents the trade that made Gdansk the biggest city both in Poland and in the Baltics in 15/16c.
resource    amber,        211,    238        ; coast of the Bay of Gdansk abounded with amber (no trade with Prussia)


;  POMERANIA - Szczecin_Province
resource    fish,        187,    235        ; fish was the staple


;  BRANDENBURG - Brandeburg_Province
; throughout the Middle Ages this was not very rich province so only two low-income resources
resource    dogs,        174,    222        ; fruits
resource    camels,        169,    228        ; honey


;  MECKLEMBURG - Lubeck_Province
resource    tin,        157,    234        ; the city was the hub of trade given it's geographical location and trade power
resource    tin,        157,    234
resource    tobacco,    154,    230        ; salt from Luneburg: it was imported from the Elbe valley but was a main export of Lubeck to the east. In the M2TW engine it's best to give it to Lubeck.


;  MORAVIA - Olomoc_Province
resource    camels,        198,    203        ; honey from the woods (fits the neighbouring provinces well)
resource    iron,        192,    199        ; metals from the Jihlava (Iglau) region, but it signifies the overall abundance of this stuff also in the Sudeten Mts.


;  BOHEMIA - Prague_Province
resource    iron,        176,    208        ; Bohemia had plenty of metals in Rudavy mts., as also in the south
resource    silver,        188,    202        ; silver mines of Kutna Hora supplied 1/3 of Europe's demand for silver in 14c.
resource    silver,        188,    202
resource    sulfur,        175,    203        ; linen was produced and exported (in 15c. whole cloth industry developed)

Cheers mate
Well, not really. Simply due lack of knowledge and fear of messing things up.
Were you able to get some new insights on the trading system?
Trading would be an interesting part, especially for the trade republics like Genoa, Venice or Ragusa.
I used buildings with bonuses to represent their connections and trading networks in my mod.