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    Nice detail!

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    oh damn it's alive
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    Quote Originally Posted by sullivanclan1 View Post
    Nice detail!
    Cheers, mate!

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    oh damn it's alive
    Let's just say I had some time to spare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneirin View Post
    Let's just say I had some time to spare
    Yep, I was actually interested in this. I keep my fingers crossed for you, you've devoted so much time, it's worth just finish it off in a spare time :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow View Post
    Yep, I was actually interested in this. I keep my fingers crossed for you, you've devoted so much time, it's worth just finish it off in a spare time :-)
    I see, I'll surely try my very best

    Current state:
    - added two new traits: Condotta - Condottiere, Former Condottiere
    - changed Bolognese diplomat to: 'Filippo Balduino'
    - changed hidden resource of Mirandola Province -> north_italy
    - changed age of Agostino Adorno to 52
    - altered the priest, heretic, witch conversion to a minimum
    - added missing diplomacy speech for Spain, Turks
    - added missing merchant_clerk ancillary icon
    - made port building queue available for the newly added minor factions
    - adjusted Swabian League & Ferrara AI profile
    - added missing Printing Press/House building description
    - added plague events to Ragusa
    - adjusted faction standings of Ragusa and Kingdom of Naples (in a positive way)
    - added earthquakes to Bologna
    - adjusted the heir title script, to a less buggy state
    - added Ragusan Diplomat Traits
    - added events for Ragusa: Kharaj, Jews of Portugal, No ship is save, The English Clothings, Trade with the Egyptians, Plot of Ston, A letter too far
    - added two missing names for Ragusa
    - added events for Bologna: Tasse degli Ebrei,
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    That comes as a surprise, but it's a rather nice one. Have you considered getting into contant with LEVZIE, the creator of the Russian standalone submod, as regards permission to use, let's say, their new battle map settlements?
    Last edited by Elendil 03; August 18, 2019 at 08:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elendil 03 View Post
    That comes as a surprise, but it's a rather nice one. Have you considered getting into contant with LEVZIE, the creator of the Russian standalone submod, as regards permission to use, let's say, their new battle map settlements?
    Well, happy to surprise you
    As for your question, the answer is no, I won't, simply because the effort is too much compared to my limited time.
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    I've got an impression that the Russian other submod (Bulat Steel) had some problems with intellectual property, to put it mildly. Even the link seems to be removed from the TWC. I may be erring, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow View Post
    I've got an impression that the Russian other submod (Bulat Steel) had some problems with intellectual property, to put it mildly. Even the link seems to be removed from the TWC. I may be erring, of course.
    That's a common problem with Russian mods ^^
    I've never got asked for permission either
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    Whoops. OK, that's some... interesting practices exercised over there.

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    Hey guys so yes the Russian mods are well known for taking material without permission (the case of Bulat Steel is quite notorious). However, in the case of the Italian Wars the mod was made by LEZVIE as a submod of the Italian Wars. I opened up the thread for that mod in the Released Mods section as I thought that it gave more visibility and more people could enjoy it (even though it is in Russian which makes it extremely hard to enjoy, i just play custom battles as the campaign is too difficult without knowing at least the cyrilic alphabet).


    LEZVIE himself has posted images of the mod several times in this subforum. He basically took the Italian Wars mod and created completely new units, buildings, strat map models, battle map models etc. Everything is completely made by him and no ohter material from any other mods was used.

    If you want the mod deleted from the Released Mods section and added to the submods section here than let me know and i will ask the moderators to delete that thread.

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    Ah I see, thank's for sorting things out!
    Well, as it is a submod for Italian Wars, I'd say it should be posted here, should it not?
    If you could do that, it would be really appreciated
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    Sure, no problems. Will post it here.

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    Brilliant Aneirin, just brilliant.

    How do we get these new changes, is there a patch somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian View Post
    Sure, no problems. Will post it here.
    Cheers mate!

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Böse Wolf View Post
    Brilliant Aneirin, just brilliant.

    How do we get these new changes, is there a patch somewhere?
    Currently nowhere, since I haven't released any updates.
    As things stand now I am slowly progressing and adding all missing events, stuff like that.
    I also had a look a the unfinished Condotta Script.

    Can't tell, when something will be released, but I surely will keep you posted
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    Great stuff, man, keep it coming! Indeed a pleasant surprise.

    Und wenn du noch irgendeine Lösung findest für den Tod des Borgia- Papstes wäre das grandios Genua ist mir letztens auch weggestorben, weil sie keine Familienmitglieder mehr hatten. Bei den Papststaaten müsste doch eigentlich auch Cesare als Fraktionsführer nachfolgen? Also irgendwie scheint der Fehler beim Erbprozess zu liegen...vielleicht findest du ja was!
    Otherwise I will just need to play as the Papal States myself I guess haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mausolos of Caria View Post
    Great stuff, man, keep it coming! Indeed a pleasant surprise.

    Und wenn du noch irgendeine Lösung findest für den Tod des Borgia- Papstes wäre das grandios Genua ist mir letztens auch weggestorben, weil sie keine Familienmitglieder mehr hatten. Bei den Papststaaten müsste doch eigentlich auch Cesare als Fraktionsführer nachfolgen? Also irgendwie scheint der Fehler beim Erbprozess zu liegen...vielleicht findest du ja was!
    Otherwise I will just need to play as the Papal States myself I guess haha
    Cheers Mausolos!
    Well, a couple of weeks ago I visited Italy and got the bug again

    As for your question, yes, I have altered the family tree so the next Pope would Pius.
    Though it is a common problem for factions, which don't have a family tree.
    Totally, you should! Stripping the Lord of Bologna and Urbino of their estates with Cesare Borgia
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    I am so endlessly happy to see that Aneirin is back and continuing work on this mod!!! DIK Ultimate is epic, but small things just make it unfinished...
    So excited!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonius View Post
    I am so endlessly happy to see that Aneirin is back and continuing work on this mod!!! DIK Ultimate is epic, but small things just make it unfinished...
    So excited!
    Cheers Antonius

    Well, here is the updated changelog, which I have already done so far:
    - added four new traits: Condotta - Condottiere, Former Condottiere, Experienced Condottiere, Very Experienced Condottiere
    - changed Bolognese diplomat to: 'Filippo Balduino'
    - changed hidden resource of Mirandola Province -> north_italy
    - changed age of Agostino Adorno to 52
    - altered the priest, heretic, witch conversion to a minimum
    - added missing diplomacy speech for Spain, Turks
    - added missing merchant_clerk ancillary icon
    - made port building queue available for the newly added minor factions
    - adjusted Swabian League & Ferrara AI profile
    - added missing Printing Press/House building description
    - added plague events to Ragusa
    - added missing title of Incisa
    - added new title for Tabarka
    - adjusted faction standings of Ragusa and Kingdom of Naples (in a positive way)
    - added earthquakes to Bologna
    - adjusted the heir title script, to a less buggy state
    - added Ragusan Diplomat Traits
    - added events for Ragusa: Kharaj, Jews of Portugal, No ship is save, The English Clothings, Trade with the Egyptians, Plot of Ston, A letter too far
    - added two missing names for Ragusa
    - added events for Bologna: Tasse degli Ebrei, A fine hat for the son, A brittle balance, Cesare Borgia, This will be my ruin, A meeting at Magione, A divine rule
    - added events for Ferrara: A brittle balance
    - added events for Mantua: A brittle balance
    - added events for Urbino: Cesare Borgia, A meeting at Magione
    - added events for Siena: A meeting at Magione,
    - added events for Papal States: A meeting at Magione, A divine rule
    - added events for Genoa: Banco di San Giorgio
    - added traits for Bologna: Member of the Società d'arti (Notai - lawyers, Cambiatori - Bankers, Drappieri - Cloth Merchants)
    - added the Condotta-Script for Manuta, Ferrara, Montferrat, Bologna and Urbino
    - map changes: added ford from Incesia to Saluzzo, added two mountain passages to the Ligurian Coast near Mondovi, added a mounatian passage from Saluzzo to Susa, added a ford between Bari und Salerno, added a mountain passage from Urbino to Camerino, added the Island of Tabarka

    I guess, I'll make a preview about the condotta-script, though it seems there is still a bug somewhere.

    Best Aneirin
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    A few questions if I may:
    Currently, when your state reaches a certain size you recieve quite a harsh penalty in terms of reduced revenues...will that stay like that?
    When you conquer tuscany as a foreign power, you only have acces to a small selection of local units. Will that change?
    For Genoa there were some unit-cards missing... will they be added?

    Thanks!!!
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