[HS] Westeros: A New Beginning

[Matto16]

Hotseat based on my new submod

Just recently I finished my work on my second Submod - Westeros: A New Beginning and immediately decided to use it for hotseat purpose because at least for me playing against real opponents became more more interesting then playing against boring AI. Diplomacy, RP, battles, treacherous and everything else is much more fun between real players and I do not doubt that the others in this community have the same oppinion. I

I already contact some players before as they are known for beeing quick and reliable but the respond was dissapointed so only some places are already taken while others are free for everyone to take. However bear in mind that you must be enough responsible to play your turns in time, acknowledge your absence at the right time and most importantly respect other players. Also RP is very desirable, even if you write one of two sentences and add some sort of a picture is much nicer then with blank pages so I will definitely support that.


~Outline~

We will be using my submod, which you can find on this link. It is very easy to install as you have just download it and unzip it to your medieval2/mods. My desire is to use all playable factions because only that way submod can lives a full live in all it's aspects but if that won't be possible, we will remove some less important factions on the border of the map and concentrate only on those Houses that were most involved in war.

~Timeline~

This game starts at the beginning of the War of the Five Kings with characters beeing on the same locations like in youngbloods and Enhanced 0.53 mods. Stark is fighting for revenge against Lannister and Joffrey, Stannis and Renly are their own Kings who would like to sit on the Iron Throne and rule Westeros as late King Robert's brothers and we also have Ironborn and their King Balon who wants to have his own independent Kingdom. Who will prevail at the end? That is up to you to decide.

~Winning Condition~

Become the King of Westeros by conquering all of it or having other Lords/Kings pledging fealty to you. Every Lord/king must pledge fealty to you in order to win this Hotseat. Only one House can win!

~Faction/Players~

Admin: Ice Eyes
Co-Admin: Matto16

House Lannister of Casterly Rock: Captain Melon
House Tyrell of Highgarden: Admiral Thrawn
House Stark of Winterfell: irishviking5
House Arryn of the Eyrie: Emrys
House Greyjoy of Iron Islands: TheBlackWolf
King Renly Baratheon: The Forgotten
King Joffrey Baratheon: Rhaegar
House Tully of Riverrun: DrakeRox
King Stannis Baratheon:Sworn Stark
House Martell of Dorne: Tyler5656

~Rules~
They are taken from Son of the Rivers and the Hills hotseat as I really like concept implemented by Hopelessly Hopeless so please read them carefully as there are some changes from ordinary hotseat rules.

• PM or VM the next player as you post your turn on the thread so the game moves as swiftly as possible.
• If you know you will miss your turn; nominate a sub and provide them with your password. If you miss your turn and haven't nominated a sub, you'll be skipped.
• Heroic victories are not allowed unless the same outcome is reached three consecutive times (save and load), the Admin always checks this to be sure.
• No bug abuse! When you think someone has used a bug report it here and the admin (me) will look into it. A list of common bugs and exploits can be found somewhere in this forum, but I feel rather lazy atm so look for it yourselves
• No sailing from a blockaded port without first defeating the blockading ships.
• No sallying forth in a siege to deny your besieger the opportunity to sack your settlement.
• Minimum of 4 units per fort, 4 forts/province
• Post pictures of battle odds, and results
• If any army of yours gets defeated, it shan't move next turn. If a defeated army of yours retreats to a settlement, you are not allowed to sally or in any way use the defeated units. Exception: Reinforcing armies in defense, when based on forts or settlements, even if defeated, don't lose movement points.
• Settlements gifted should disband all units save one.
• No building destruction. Burning down everything is a 'cheap' source of gold, and feels rather weird. Not that I never do it or anything, but I'd make it a rule in my hotseat.
• No adoptions; use your characters with caution. No marrying your noble ladies to randomly generated characters either; nor adopting generals after you win a battle with no leader; Named characters you start the game with, CAN be adopted (for example, Jonos Mallister, who is not a family member at game start, but is still a character; same for Raymund Vance and others).
• If the ruling house changes, the player must change as well ; for example, if both Tristifers die, and some bloke from another house rises to power... whoever played House Mudd previously would have to resign and give the spot to someone else.
• No sharing of ancillaries! Some of them give extra command, and that's easily exploitable to give many generals the crucial night fighter trait.
• No using of princesses/noble ladies to steal generals! Would you marry off your daughters to a sworn enemy? No? Me neither, you see

[Matto16]

We already have 5 players in this hotseat:

- me
- The Forgotten
- Sworn Stark
- TheBlackWolf
- Uriyaca (still open)

We need 5 more players and we can begin. I will say once again that everyone can participate in this hotseat but you must be reliable and have enough time to play your turns in 24 hours regularly.

[Uriyaca]

Few things:

1) I like the no adoption rule. If somone wants a new general, he'll have to recruit one
2) I am just reminding you guys that I am only subbing the faction as a favor for Matto, this is not my faction. Anyone who wants Stannis faction can have it
3) I approve of the 4 units per fort, I however do not approve of the 2 forts per region. Please edit it out. Its kinda rediculous because in places like the north regions are huge and you can't create a fortwall, in the Crownlands however you can have a 10 fort long fortwall, which is annoying. Also, I don't really like many fort restrictions

Last thing, as Stannis I really would like to have a port. I would appriciate it if you fixed that before we begin, as thats a major disadvantage to the Stannis faction. Every faction besides him has a port....

Oh and also could you possibly give Stannis a wooden castle in Driftmark? He only has 1 settlement in your mod

Edit: Matto I just downloaded your mod, the map looks amazing and I love the farms distribution, but some problems: the game crashed after like 30 seconds after I clicked the details of a settlements option . I really don't think its balanced enough for gameplay at this point, let alone hotseating. I think you should first try to fix the game crashing bugs before we start the hotseat

[Matto16]

Few things:

1) I like the no adoption rule. If somone wants a new general, he'll have to recruit one
2) I am just reminding you guys that I am only subbing the faction as a favor for Matto, this is not my faction. Anyone who wants Stannis faction can have it
3) I approve of the 4 units per fort, I however do not approve of the 2 forts per region. Please edit it out. Its kinda rediculous because in places like the north regions are huge and you can't create a fortwall, in the Crownlands however you can have a 10 fort long fortwall, which is annoying. Also, I don't really like many fort restrictions

Last thing, as Stannis I really would like to have a port. I would appriciate it if you fixed that before we begin, as thats a major disadvantage to the Stannis faction. Every faction besides him has a port....

Oh and also could you possibly give Stannis a wooden castle in Driftmark? He only has 1 settlement in your mod

Edit: Matto I just downloaded your mod and it crashed after like 30 seconds after I clicked the details of a settlements option . I really don't think its balanced enough for gameplay at this point, let alone hotseating. I think you should first try to fix the game crashing bugs before we start the hotseat

Do you think I wouldn't add a port to Stannis and created a wooden castle in Driftmark if I would know how to do that? I am not such great modder like some in this community but slowly I am learning and at this point I still don't know how to make those two things.
If you will play Stannis you would have to go without those two things but seriously Stannis already have a very strong fleet so port is not so vital for him and Driftmark is also not so vital since other factions doesn't have ships at all at this point.

2 forts per region is a very good rule because otherwise some players could build up to 5 forts in one small region and you cannot even move armies there. I am surprised about crashing as game is running for me smoothly without any problems.

But I must say I am disappointed with such low response. I was making this submod for an hours to bring new fun to this community but most even didn't answer on my invitation and I didn't yet read a single post about how this submod is working. Very sad.

[Uriyaca]

Do you think I wouldn't add a port to Stannis and created a wooden castle in Driftmark if I would know how to do that? I am not such great modder like some in this community but slowly I am learning and at this point I still don't know how to make those two things.
If you will play Stannis you would have to go without those two things but seriously Stannis already have a very strong fleet so port is not so vital for him and Driftmark is also not so vital since other factions doesn't have ships at all at this point.

2 forts per region is a very good rule because otherwise some players could build up to 5 forts in one small region and you cannot even move armies there. I am surprised about crashing as game is running for me smoothly without any problems.

But I must say I am disappointed with such low response. I was making this submod for an hours to bring new fun to this community but most even didn't answer on my invitation and I didn't yet read a single post about how this submod is working. Very sad.

No meaning to insult there pal, I think the map is awesome and beautiful and good job adding all the buildings but it isn't so polished at this point. I'm just not so sure whether I really want to join a new hotseat right now, also maybe it will take a while for me to find a new Stannis and then I will have to do all the diplomacy although I'm only subbing the faction-

No insult intended there mate

[SoulGamesInc]

I'll post on my channel for you Matto and see about getting you some Youngbloods to kill.

Also personally 2 forts per region is not enough for me, even 3 is barely enough for regions like the North. 4 is a better limit in my opinion.

[Tyler5656]

I would love to play as Martell

[irishviking5]

May I play as either Stark or Lannister please.

[Alperozcanli6]

I changed my mind i won't be playing

[Riverknight]

Lannister for me please
(Only if you need me, I would like younger players to be chosen before myself)

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[DrakeRox]

i would like to get Tully, if possible

[Matto16]

You are all accepted. Now only 3 players more and we can begin (perhaps you will have to download new version of my submod as there are some crashes in this one).

[TheBlackWolf]

Can I have Greyjoy, nice to be some new

[Ramsay Snow]

I want Stannis. Castle or no castle. Port or no port. Whatever the rules may be, I want Stannis.

[Uriyaca]

I want Stannis. Castle or no castle. Port or no port. Whatever the rules may be, I want Stannis.

Very well! . Their yours!
Have fun, if seeing this hotseat thriving and the mod working well I might join a new one after one of my hotseats die out

[AdmiralThrawn]

I'd be happy to take Tyrell or Greyjoy.

[Matto16]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...eros-Total-War FIXED VERSION HAS BEEN JUST RELEASED!

There are no more crashes or bugs as far as I can tell so hurry up and download it.

Anyway we need just Joffrey boy and we can begin!

Forgot to add: 4 forts per region max. 2 is indeed too few with big regions especially in the North.

[Ramsay Snow]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...eros-Total-War FIXED VERSION HAS BEEN JUST RELEASED!

There are no more crashes or bugs as far as I can tell so hurry up and download it.

Anyway we need just Joffrey boy and we can begin!

Forgot to add: 4 forts per region max. 2 is indeed too few with big regions especially in the North.

This is a new link. I tried and it failed too. Ill try this and see.

[Gobelina]

Joffrey, I guess?

[Captain Melon]

Oye, I was about to claim Joffrey but Gobelina got first.