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@Karamazovmn The SEGA earnings report says the company sold 800,000 "units" of Rome II as of Sept 30. Why would they exclude sales units just because they are downloadable?![]()
you don't have the info, quite common
you actually jammed that somewhere, quite common
I analysed earnings call daily because I worked at the stock market, those are quite common things to happen.
but you can tell me how you may have sold an exact number of digital + physical, despite that its written packaged, i.e. physical in there carry on
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I analyze companies for a living, although not Japanese ones. It's probably easier for them to count digital downloads than brick and mortar retail.
Anyway I'm going to take their word for it -- 800,000 is roughly the total number of Rome II games they've sold as of 9-30.
>>Sega announced today as part of its latest earnings report for the six-month period ended September 30.<<
The assumption this would not include income from digital sales is unfounded as this is about earnings and not about keys.
This is an earnings report and any exception or reservation would clearly be mentioned so lets stop the interpreting to make it fit a personal argument or agenda.
I dont care for stock markets...any e-base commerce knows at any moment the day how many units it has sold...so if SEGA announces 800.000 then its 800.000 and coming along making 2 or 3 or 4 million out of it is....sry to say...laughable, as there is no evidence to back such claim nor is there any mention of pending incomes not mentioned in that report or similar...
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and what my agenda would be? how will i profit from it? whats in there for me? will saying correctly and actually reading the earnings call be something that I will profit from?
make sense before saying those things.
packaged is physical copy.
digital is somewhere else, if you read it, there are 5 skus that sega is selling in several different markets, we don't have what is what in those skus, rome 2 digital sales is there somewhere or not, since we don't know how steam passes and when it passes the sales figures for the distributors and when they pass the money
but go on, tell me how probable is to sell an exact number of digital games + physical, logic doesn't hold yours truly
no one says that and I like that game because of the major map and theatres
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The very ugly forgive, but beauty is essential - Vinicius de Moraes
I made a lot of sense...you made a claim now go and proove it...
I dont have to proove that you are wrong since SEGA announced the numbers and you say they do not worth...
so you have to proove your point and not the other way around...thats ridicolous.
Pretty basic logic for regular poeple...you yourself say you dont know when STEAM passes sales and money but you use exactly that to make a claim that the real sold numbers is 2-4 millions...sry,pal..thats beyond any sense
Last edited by chris10; November 02, 2013 at 11:58 AM.
actually it isn't, if you did any job in accounting in your life. because companies have different policies, for example, one may close the numbers at day 20, the other at 30, it usually close to one another, doesn't mean that they all launch at the same time, because they simply don't.
its a simple matter of whats written
packaged sales -> that is physical copies
the logic is simple:
packaged means physical
there are 5 skus for games in the report, no discretion to what those are
There is a possibility of 0 to actually land a round number like that for digital + physical sales, its absolutely and utterly impossible
there is also the possibility of no rome 2 digital sales being in that report, there is also the possibility of those sales being in the 5 skus
now you can go on and explain to me how a company managed to sell 800.000 exact copies of a game, when you account digital sales in that number, because that was your claim, wasn't it?
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thank you all modders.
800.000? Well, that is a bit of a disappointment. I expect it to be way higher. Definitely seeing how CA handled the marketing campaign this time. I wonder if it is satisfying.
Out of interest krisslanza, seeing as you think Rome 2 is a good game. what rating out of 100 would you give it?
Guys no matter how much you complain,Large companies like Sega just brush it off, never underestimate how powerful a tool marketing truly is..
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Is this the actual case with the gore dlc?
@ Dago: A few thousand download count compare to the sales of the game is quite low you know.
About car/motorbike I will take a Vespa 1970 instead of a remake on 2013 everytime I have to choose
Empire II and Medieval III pls
RTR had 80,000 downloads the first day that 6.0 gold was released. That's unique users, you don't download the same thing a hundred times in one day.
Darthmod lists his unique downloads somewhere as 200,000 (ballpark) I believe. I was not one of those downloaders until Shogun Fots left no option.
I think its funny how mod detractors frequent these forums. The simple fact is that there are thousands of mods, not all of them good or a particular person's cup of tea. But somewhere in there is a mod for everyone and once you play it you will never go back. Not all of them, but the mods that take the time to be thorough and test their features and spend free time over many long months pounding out totally new game mechanics are always better than the vanilla game, and you can see how it was merely a foundation for a great work.
Or, Keep. Head. In. Sand.
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