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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by Modestus View Post
    Gained more customers then they lost perhaps but if they gained more fans then they lost depends really on the quality of the game. You may never see those customers again if they feel the game was poor and judging from the user score there seems to be a lot of people who believe the game was\is poor.

    I am sure CA are not ignoring the fact that the user score is low especially if there is an expansion because it would indicate that while you have increased the number of your customers you have not turned them into fans, you may have in fact turned your long time fans into customers people that will now look at your product not as a must buy but as a may buy.

    By aiming for the casual market by making your game have casual appeal you have turned everyone into a casual buyer of your game which is exactly what I am now, in fact I am not even a customer.
    ^ Exactly this. Gaining casuals is easy, keeping them interested is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modestus View Post
    Gained more customers then they lost perhaps but if they gained more fans then they lost depends really on the quality of the game. You may never see those customers again if they feel the game was poor and judging from the user score there seems to be a lot of people who believe the game was\is poor.

    I am sure CA are not ignoring the fact that the user score is low especially if there is an expansion because it would indicate that while you have increased the number of your customers you have not turned them into fans, you may have in fact turned your long time fans into customers people that will now look at your product not as a must buy but as a may buy.

    By aiming for the casual market by making your game have casual appeal you have turned everyone into a casual buyer of your game which is exactly what I am now, in fact I am not even a customer.


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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    @Karamazovmn The SEGA earnings report says the company sold 800,000 "units" of Rome II as of Sept 30. Why would they exclude sales units just because they are downloadable?

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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by Huberto View Post
    @Karamazovmn The SEGA earnings report says the company sold 800,000 "units" of Rome II as of Sept 30. Why would they exclude sales units just because they are downloadable?
    you don't have the info, quite common

    you actually jammed that somewhere, quite common

    I analysed earnings call daily because I worked at the stock market, those are quite common things to happen.

    but you can tell me how you may have sold an exact number of digital + physical, despite that its written packaged, i.e. physical in there carry on

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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazovmm View Post
    you don't have the info, quite common

    you actually jammed that somewhere, quite common

    I analysed earnings call daily because I worked at the stock market, those are quite common things to happen.

    but you can tell me how you may have sold an exact number of digital + physical, despite that its written packaged, i.e. physical in there carry on
    I analyze companies for a living, although not Japanese ones . It's probably easier for them to count digital downloads than brick and mortar retail.

    Anyway I'm going to take their word for it -- 800,000 is roughly the total number of Rome II games they've sold as of 9-30.

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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    >>Sega announced today as part of its latest earnings report for the six-month period ended September 30.<<
    The assumption this would not include income from digital sales is unfounded as this is about earnings and not about keys.

    This is an earnings report and any exception or reservation would clearly be mentioned so lets stop the interpreting to make it fit a personal argument or agenda.
    I dont care for stock markets...any e-base commerce knows at any moment the day how many units it has sold...so if SEGA announces 800.000 then its 800.000 and coming along making 2 or 3 or 4 million out of it is....sry to say...laughable, as there is no evidence to back such claim nor is there any mention of pending incomes not mentioned in that report or similar...
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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    >>Sega announced today as part of its latest earnings report for the six-month period ended September 30.<<
    The assumption this would not include income from digital sales is preposterous and absolutely unfounded as this is about earnings and not about keys.
    Again: This is an earnings report and any exception or reservation would clearly be mentioned so lets stop the interpreting to make it fit a personal argument or agenda.
    and what my agenda would be? how will i profit from it? whats in there for me? will saying correctly and actually reading the earnings call be something that I will profit from?

    make sense before saying those things.

    packaged is physical copy.

    digital is somewhere else, if you read it, there are 5 skus that sega is selling in several different markets, we don't have what is what in those skus, rome 2 digital sales is there somewhere or not, since we don't know how steam passes and when it passes the sales figures for the distributors and when they pass the money

    but go on, tell me how probable is to sell an exact number of digital games + physical, logic doesn't hold yours truly

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    no one says that and I like that game because of the major map and theatres
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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazovmm View Post

    packaged is physical copy.

    digital is somewhere else, if you read it, there are 5 skus that sega is selling in several different markets, we don't have what is what in those skus, rome 2 digital sales is there somewhere or not, since we don't know how steam passes and when it passes the sales figures for the distributors and when they pass the money

    but go on, tell me how probable is to sell an exact number of digital games + physical, logic doesn't hold yours truly
    I made a lot of sense...you made a claim now go and proove it...
    I dont have to proove that you are wrong since SEGA announced the numbers and you say they do not worth...
    so you have to proove your point and not the other way around...thats ridicolous.
    Pretty basic logic for regular poeple...you yourself say you dont know when STEAM passes sales and money but you use exactly that to make a claim that the real sold numbers is 2-4 millions...sry,pal..thats beyond any sense
    Last edited by chris10; November 02, 2013 at 11:58 AM.

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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    I made a lot of sense...you made a claim now go and proove it...
    I dont have to proove that you are wrong since SEGA announced the numbers and you say they do not worth...so you have to proove you point and not the other way around.
    Pretty basic logic for regular poeple...you yourself say you dont know when STEAM passes sales and money but you use exactly that to make a claim that the real sold numbers is 2-4 millions...sry pal..thats beyond any sense
    actually it isn't, if you did any job in accounting in your life. because companies have different policies, for example, one may close the numbers at day 20, the other at 30, it usually close to one another, doesn't mean that they all launch at the same time, because they simply don't.


    its a simple matter of whats written

    packaged sales -> that is physical copies

    the logic is simple:

    packaged means physical

    there are 5 skus for games in the report, no discretion to what those are

    There is a possibility of 0 to actually land a round number like that for digital + physical sales, its absolutely and utterly impossible

    there is also the possibility of no rome 2 digital sales being in that report, there is also the possibility of those sales being in the 5 skus

    now you can go on and explain to me how a company managed to sell 800.000 exact copies of a game, when you account digital sales in that number, because that was your claim, wasn't it?

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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazovmm View Post
    actually it isn't, if you did any job in accounting in your life. because companies have different policies, for example, one may close the numbers at day 20, the other at 30, it usually close to one another, doesn't mean that they all launch at the same time, because they simply don't.


    its a simple matter of whats written

    packaged sales -> that is physical copies

    the logic is simple:

    packaged means physical
    Report says "units sold" is 800,000. What are you talking about, "packaged sales?" Company (SEGA Sammy) reports 800,000 sold -- end of story.

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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    >>Sega announced today as part of its latest earnings report for the six-month period ended September 30.<<
    The assumption this would not include income from digital sales is unfounded as this is about earnings and not about keys.

    This is an earnings report and any exception or reservation would clearly be mentioned so lets stop the interpreting to make it fit a personal argument or agenda.
    I dont care for stock markets...any e-base commerce knows at any moment the day how many units it has sold...so if SEGA announces 800.000 then its 800.000 and coming along making 2 or 3 or 4 million out of it is....sry to say...laughable, as there is no evidence to back such claim nor is there any mention of pending incomes not mentioned in that report or similar...
    I second this.

    I don't understand how people popping up millions and millions of copy out of their *** hope to be taken seriously. Do you really expect SEGA to ignore pre-order and digital copy to appear as a small publisher ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna_Gein View Post
    I second this.

    I don't understand how people popping up millions and millions of copy out of their *** hope to be taken seriously. Do you really expect SEGA to ignore pre-order and digital copy to appear as a small publisher ?
    you can just read the earnings report that I posted

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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

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    800.000? Well, that is a bit of a disappointment. I expect it to be way higher. Definitely seeing how CA handled the marketing campaign this time. I wonder if it is satisfying.


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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Out of interest krisslanza, seeing as you think Rome 2 is a good game. what rating out of 100 would you give it?

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    Guys no matter how much you complain,Large companies like Sega just brush it off, never underestimate how powerful a tool marketing truly is..

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    "the ground will become soaked with blood"

    Is this the actual case with the gore dlc?

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    @ Dago: A few thousand download count compare to the sales of the game is quite low you know.
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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    RTR had 80,000 downloads the first day that 6.0 gold was released. That's unique users, you don't download the same thing a hundred times in one day.

    Darthmod lists his unique downloads somewhere as 200,000 (ballpark) I believe. I was not one of those downloaders until Shogun Fots left no option.

    I think its funny how mod detractors frequent these forums. The simple fact is that there are thousands of mods, not all of them good or a particular person's cup of tea. But somewhere in there is a mod for everyone and once you play it you will never go back. Not all of them, but the mods that take the time to be thorough and test their features and spend free time over many long months pounding out totally new game mechanics are always better than the vanilla game, and you can see how it was merely a foundation for a great work.

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    Default Re: Total War: Rome II sales reach 800,000 copies

    Quote Originally Posted by Dago Red View Post
    RTR had 80,000 downloads the first day that 6.0 gold was released. That's unique users, you don't download the same thing a hundred times in one day.

    Darthmod lists his unique downloads somewhere as 200,000.

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