Comprehensive Overview of the Building System - Now with tutorial

[Xil0]

Not really, got sidetracked working on Artillery/Replenishment, playing around with fame_tables and what not. One can only hit their head against a brick wall for so long before getting distracted.

If you got it working then I'll have another run at it, would be nice to get this completed

If you haven't had time to mess around with it yet... I just uploaded my MR 2.0 with 4 new Superchains in it.

[Catsup]

this is very helpful thanks, i am currently trying to mod barbarians to be able to build trade ports in capital cities, with british, odyssia, and tylis being able to build them anywhere. What i did was make the barbarian port upgradeable to roman trade port and adding the buildings in building_culture_variants table. But its been crashing the game at load every time, hopefully this guide will help to me fix it.

[Catsup]

this is very helpful thanks, i am currently trying to mod barbarians to be able to build trade ports in capital cities, with british, odyssia, and tylis being able to build them anywhere. What i did was make the barbarian port upgradeable to roman trade port and adding the buildings in building_culture_variants table. But its been crashing the game at load every time, hopefully this guide will help to me fix it.

i've checked it over, it still crashes if any of the custom lines for the ports in building_culture_variants table exist. here is a link for my mod:
http://www.filedropper.com/crashingmod
please take a look if you can and tell me what im doing wrong

the specific lines in the table that cause the crash before the sega screen are the ones in building_culture_variants table that allows barbarians to build rome's major city trade ports and those that allow british subcultures, and tylis, and odryssia to build rome's minor city trade ports.

[Xil0]

Update here. Big Update.

Ai will NOT build or use any custom buildings added to the game without the proper references added to all the appropriate CAI DB tables. When you get back around to this tutorial cryzyndm, adding these to the dependencies tables would probably be a good idea. As if buildings weren't tedious enough, now they take even longer to add.


Got to put out an emergency hotfix to my MR asap!


EDIT: Well I got the AI to build new Superchains no problem. And upgrade them. The problem is with building instances. So when trying to make new building instances, no matter what CAI values I apply to them, the AI simply will not build them. (Unless Im missing something). I am experimenting with tying them to existing instances and not allowing them to convert now. Lets see if the AI will build them now.

[crzyrndm]

Ai will NOT build or use any custom buildings added to the game without the proper references added to all the appropriate CAI DB tables. When you get back around to this tutorial cryzyndm, adding these to the dependencies tables would probably be a good idea. As if buildings weren't tedious enough, now they take even longer to add.

Dayum, thanks for the update.

[crzyrndm]

My apologies for the long wait, busy + 1 liddle typo = extremely frustrated.

Thanks again to Xil0 for his help

Added:

• tutorial: building chains
• tutorial: building superchains
• Cai tables

[yukishiro1]

Do either of you know how to mod AI building priorities? I am trying to correct the AI's tendency to build way too many temples at the expensive military buildings...any help appreciated. I can't figure out what table even controls the build priority.

[L337 NUB]

I have tried this 9 serparate times, and i cannot create anything that will show in game. I believe the problem is that I am creating a lvl 0 building, which doesnt seem to be called in the Upgrades table. Am i missing something?

[crzyrndm]

What are you trying to do?

A root (level 0) structure will require a new chain (and probably superchain).

[L337 NUB]

I have created a new Superchain, chain and subchain, but tying things together at the subchain level seems to causing a problem (I believe). I am trying to create an auxiliary port for major cities, and I am trying to follow the guide you have generously provided, but I keep getting confused at the subchain point. It seems that I cannot connect the building to the subchain, perhaps because I have only created the lvl 0 building atm?

[crzyrndm]

Assuming that things aren't crashing, the problem here is that the port chain is pre-assigned in the startpos and can't be destroyed to replace it with your new chain. It would probably work better if you just use the existing port chain, and make your aux port a subchain of that (having your structure appear at the second level where it normally splits up).

Alternatively, you could edit the region loadouts in the startpos and pre-assign your structure, or edit the root port structure to enable you to remove it completely (building_levels -> column: destruction_terminator = false) giving you access to both level 0 structures.

[obvious]

Hello,

I'm currently on a project to do a province simulation for rome 2 and I'm wondering where did you found those files (buildings.pack, etc).
If you could point me in the right direction, i will be very grateful.

Thanks

[crzyrndm]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...teps-using-PFM

Those packs are the ones I made.

[obvious]

So, where did you found the informations inside ? I didn't found informations about buildings/technology inside the .packs of the game itself, any help appreciated

ps : if this is too much off topic , let me know it

[crzyrndm]

data_rome2.pack\db\<tables listed in OP>

From there, trial and lots of error

[L337 NUB]

THANK YOU so much, crzy!!! My tenth attempt worked! I am nearly as grateful as I am excited to resume modding Thank you for putting so much into the modding community, and if a lowly nub can be of service sometime I will avail myself Thanks again

Sry it took so long to respond, but my work schedule was hectic. I just got it working and I am eager to get back to it! Thanks again

[crzyrndm]

Scrub that, the forms aren't updated for Rome 2 at all, and are slow and clunky to boot.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

So it looks like the tutorial is now mostly unnecesary. The assembly kit includes several tools for browsing/creating stuff in several categories that previously required editing many tables, and one of them is for buildings. The only thing it doesn't do is the two tables for superchains (about to go head over and point this out, and that the building_chain_to_slots window is unnecesary , as with the entire slots form)

Either way, if it works well, its a method less prone to error and should probably be used over manual editing (the method up to this point)

EDIT

Just realised I didn't say where this tool was located

View -> Form Launcher -> buildings

[crzyrndm]

One small but very significant update, building_upgrades_junction does NOT have to link consecutive structure levels.

Why is this important? Because the conversion function is limited to structures with the same level. By using different structure levels in building_levels you can control what can convert to what

[crzyrndm]

Updated, only CAI table required is cai_construction_system_building_values

[Biggus Splenus]

Amazing, very helpful

EDIT: I noticed the only used building table you haven't included is building_chain_to_slots... is there a reason for this?