CA need to hurry up

[Armageddonn]

If they want people to still buy their game, the patch 6 needs to fix the 2 biggest issues of the game, the Performance and the Siege Ai, the reason why they need to hurry up is because games such as Batman : Arkham Origin , Battlefield 4 and AC 4 are coming out in a week, so ill be dammed if i wana play a slideshow game with terrible siege ai over those games, i honestly have no idea why they still won't fix those 2 issues when they are so many topics about them,videos,benchmarks , i mean every person that asked me if he should buy the game i strongly replied NO, so that is a lost sale i mean 10 people that asked that is like 600 $ lost imagine if those 10 people told another 10 people what i said, well you get the point..

[Arkonath]

They are going to keep selling Rome II no matter what. Just wait for the next discount on steam.

[caissus]

Performance is never getting fixed, don't get your hopes up

[archone]

It's not so easy that you can just "fix it" at will

And you're in for a surprise if you think rehashed console games from terrible publishers are going to have smoother releases

[Armageddonn]

It's not so easy that you can just "fix it" at will

And you're in for a surprise if you think rehashed console games from terrible publishers are going to have smoother releases

If moderes were able to fix formations,unit heights,graphical effects,campaign camera etc etc before CA starting to release patches i think it shouldn't be that hard to fix it, after all its their game, their engine, they are the ones who made it, so yeah sorry but a game that cannot be played on GTX TITAN and on latest I7 cpus is not a game that is well optimized, also not to forget the siege AI who functioned well in Rome 1, Medieval 2, Shogun 2 but ofc its terrible in Rome 2, if those 2 things aren't fix in the next 2 patches 6,7 than i will give up on this game and turn away anyone who wants to buy this game, i love TW games but this is just terrible, i really really hope some other game company will start making AAA total war games so CA will knock on their heads and say "Hey wait a sec we got competition now, we better not fail our fans next time or they gona turn to those other guys" i cannot wait for that to happen, i mean 40% bigger budget for what? For bad optimization, brainless siege ai and axe animation that are the same as sword animation (jesus couldn't they taken our at least the stabbing sword animation when units use axes?)

Anyways that is just my opinion and i think i raise valid points here.

[Frost, colonel]

I have also told friends not to buy it yet, but as for CA being quick because other games are coming out? After all, CA have already sold a lot, many through pre-order. It's a fascinating point you raise though, how many sales will CA loose through negative reviews and word of mouth, including future DLC etc?
How bothered are they when they have other games, expansions and DLC to work on, to sell to a largely knowledgeable audience?
Plenty of people like the game as it is, some even say it's the best game yet, and the majority of owners will not be on any forums and have the faults so heavily and even heatedly debated before their eyes.

[Humble Warrior]

Well it`s pretty obvious that CA have a huge problem with sieges. Whether they can fix it seems low to me or they would`ve said something. It`s possible our AI programmer is doing double time, day and night trying to fix the siege, sweating hard, but it`s hard to have faith in someone who acted like he could make a Ferrariri then produced a broken model-T ford.

I mean, can this guy actually make a working siege AI or is the only thing he knows is how to extend the range of fire torches to the gates. Does he even feel bad that he hasn`t produced the work at all? I, as an illustrator and artist could never say i can do a certain work, then just not and sit back and lie about it with a wan smile to my face.

I watch while patches come and go, but i`m not holding my breath.

[Frost, colonel]

Well it`s pretty obvious that CA have a huge problem with sieges. Whether they can fix it seems low to me or they would`ve said something. It`s possible our AI programmer is doing double time, day and night trying to fix the siege, sweating hard, but it`s hard to have faith in someone who acted like he could make a Ferrariri then produced a broken model-T ford.

I mean, can this guy actually make a working siege AI or is the only thing he knows is how to extend the range of fire torches to the gates. Does he even feel bad that he hasn`t produced the work at all? I, as an illustrator and artist could never say i can do a certain work, then just not and sit back and lie about it with a wan smile to my face.

I watch while patches come and go, but i`m not holding my breath.

I don't envy those who work on the AI, what was that other release from CA where there was a stink about the AI, then the last we heard was the chap who did it left the company? I presume the AI for these games is very hard to do, I wonder how you interview someone for the job? Well HW you can't expect CA to tell us the truth and tell us before release that the AI is a sick dog, I mean they would sell less games, and in a corporate world, where there is money to be made, well poop happens and the little people will always be trodden on, doesn't mean we can't let them know, that we know. Every day day it seems someone phones me up trying to get money out of me.

Have you got your free Nomadic tribes DLC yet, that should keep you nicely off their backs, eh. Others have said how CA knows how to make us smile, how about you?

[Humble Warrior]

Have you got your free Nomadic tribes DLC yet, that should keep you nicely off their backs, eh. Others have said how CA knows how to make us smile, how about you?

That`s a trick question right? What use do I have for some units on horseback when the main game is broke? Yes, I downloaded it, it`s the least CA can give us, but also to see if this thing was already part of the game- Which it is.

But other than that it`s absolutely no use to me than to show me it was already part of the game.
Also, I`m not the kind of guy who gets excited about random Factions, I tend to stick with one Faction I like. If there`s a DLC I might get excited about a free blood DLc, if not over-the-top, but at this point in time, I`ll not pay for one, no matter what it is. Even a free blood DLC is useless in a broken game.

Fix those sieges and then it`ll be worth something.

[Sakanade]

It`s possible our AI programmer is doing double time, day and night trying to fix the siege, sweating hard,

[Kambe]

The sooner CA realizes they are not gonna fix Rome 2 the better. They should start working on a new engine for Medieval III.

[jamreal18]

Fix rome 2 first....

[Totalheadache]

If they want people to still buy their game, the patch 6 needs to fix the 2 biggest issues of the game, the Performance and the Siege Ai, the reason why they need to hurry up is because games such as Batman : Arkham Origin , Battlefield 4 and AC 4 are coming out in a week, so ill be dammed if i wana play a slideshow game with terrible siege ai over those games, i honestly have no idea why they still won't fix those 2 issues when they are so many topics about them,videos,benchmarks , i mean every person that asked me if he should buy the game i strongly replied NO, so that is a lost sale i mean 10 people that asked that is like 600 $ lost imagine if those 10 people told another 10 people what i said, well you get the point..

yep just tried out a siege playing as Roxolani and the AI did use siege weapons but then the ol slideshow happened. it's almost like the AI reaches a point and then doesnt know what to do and creates pathfinding/lag issues.

am sure mods will add some melee units to the nomads because defending with pure cav is pretty hard.

p.s yeah i'll def be playing ass creed/bf4 far more polished and playable. it's a shame as Rome2 could have been very good..

have no issues with open map battles..

[cevap]

They dont need to fix anything to keep selling the game, all they need to do is keep giving limited-offer free DLC to new buyers and a Steam sale or two. CAs become a marketing firm, they should become a publisher theyd feel right at home.

[♔KillZoneGB♔]

I would say a little less haste, than hurry up, less stress=less errors and all that.

Shame about empire support

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

With patch 5,and a little modification to the vfx files(MOD format) ive managed to increase most options to extreme and fps from 54 to average 74,
Campaign wise and battles have also increased if fps lowest being 34 fps.




(Love to add the pack, but I seem to have trouble with adding An attachment)

[krisslanza]

You do know fixing bugs in a game isn't that simple right? In order to fix it, they first have to know what isn't working right. And it isn't like say, the computer in a car, where you run a program and it says "Here's whats wrong!".

To fix anything that is wrong with the AI they need to first figure out exactly what is happening, and then exactly where it's happening. THEN they can figure out how to fix it. This isn't some kind of thing that is just easily done. None of it is. You can't just say "Fix it faster!" because you can be sure they're already working as fast as they can. They're only humans, not some kind of Borg-like entity with a central hivemind of knowledge.

[Jonoleth Irenicus]

You do know fixing bugs in a game isn't that simple right? In order to fix it, they first have to know what isn't working right. And it isn't like say, the computer in a car, where you run a program and it says "Here's whats wrong!".

To fix anything that is wrong with the AI they need to first figure out exactly what is happening, and then exactly where it's happening. THEN they can figure out how to fix it. This isn't some kind of thing that is just easily done. None of it is. You can't just say "Fix it faster!" because you can be sure they're already working as fast as they can. They're only humans, not some kind of Borg-like entity with a central hivemind of knowledge.

You are not suggesting that extensive play testing may be necessary ?

Next you'll say that this should have been done pre-release ?

Shurely shome mishtake !

[krisslanza]

You are not suggesting that extensive play testing may be necessary ?

Next you'll say that this should have been done pre-release ?

Shurely shome mishtake !

In a game of TW's scope and scale (and variables) in-house play testing would effectively keep the game in development for years - by the time it came out, they'd probably already have the next TW ready to release.

A pre-release or beta, is certainly an option, but I don't think CA has a track record of this. Nor does any game except MMOs, far as I'm aware, ever do early beta releases for the explicit purposes of testing. Although, now that I type that, I think a few Greenlit games have done pre-release access deals, so I guess there is some merit to the thought, but there isn't a track record with CA for trying this out.

[jughurta]

What exactly is wrong with the siege AI ?

I havent played the game, but i might buy on sale if the AI is just a tad stoopid, which TW has had before. However if the AI aint working at all i wont buy this game.

[krisslanza]

What exactly is wrong with the siege AI ?

I havent played the game, but i might buy on sale if the AI is just a tad stoopid, which TW has had before. However if the AI aint working at all i wont buy this game.

From what I hear, the problem is that the Siege AI doesn't build siege equipment, opting to just burn down the gate to get inside the city instead.
Also that it goes to capture the flags to win the battle, instead of trying to fight the defenders.