Patch 5 general dies too easily

[GiorgioIII]

Does anyone else experience that generals die immediately since patch 5?

my cavalry commander dies before even charging a unit of javelin-men?? WTF

[Fallen Phalangite]

There have been several threads on this already. The answer is yes (though it's unusual for it to happen to your cavalry general).

[Sir_Red]

I wouldn't know, I only send generals in to combat as a last resort. I mainly use them to rally my troops and chase down routers

[Octavius Vatco]

Is it a hellenistic general?

[Inhuman One]

Considering the stupidity generals get to see in the field from both their own and the enemy troops, I imagine they just die of a heart attack when you see this happen.

[Vor]

I never use my generals. They've always died for me. Every time I send them in.

The first two Emperors in my current campaign have both died due to this. The first guy, level 9, 72 years old, dropped dead when I had to send his unit in to attack some crappy celtic unit that had got around me and was closing in on my artillery. The second guy died as soon as he engaged, the rear, of a Carthaginian unit.

Many more have died instantly, but these are the only two I recall due to their rank.

[Octavius Vatco]

Well, Generals are not suppose to head on first into battle especially as the Romans are concerned. That is why they are commanders.

[krisslanza]

Well, Generals are not suppose to head on first into battle especially as the Romans are concerned. That is why they are commanders.

A true Roman leads from the front.

This seems to be some kind of situational bug or something, because I still use mostly infantry generals as Rome, and always use them in combat. They haven't died yet. Well, only of old age.

[Octavius Vatco]

A true Roman leads from the front.

Leads from the front. Not necessarily fights in the front. It is not proper for a Roman commander to fight hand to hand purposely because he needs to manage the battle.

[krisslanza]

Leads from the front. Not necessarily fights in the front. It is not proper for a Roman commander to fight hand to hand purposely because he needs to manage the battle.

Leads, fight. Same thing to me. Get in there and get your hands dirty, you toga-wearin' senators. Get some red on yah.

Having played some of Royal Scythia, I had a lancer get down to about 8 men and THEN he died. So I have no idea why some people are having their generals drop dead left and right, yet others do not.

[Octavius Vatco]

Leads, fight. Same thing to me. Get in there and get your hands dirty, you toga-wearin' senators. Get some red on yah.

Yes but really, even Caesar when he was reported to have fought it was not always. What made the romans best out the Hellenes was that their commanders kept to managing the battle from at least right behind the fighting line where the hellenes in attempt to emulate Alexander, lost their battles in seeking their personal reputations in battle.

[frontier-auxilia]

Macedonian general too to emulate Alexander by leading a cavalry charge. Pyrrhus himself was a powerful enough figther that he butcher an elite spartan unit with his bodyguards.They need to do that or else the troops look down on them.

[n3007]

AI tends to focus the Cavalry generals with spears and skirmishers quite effectively, which is only good thing as AI is otherwise incompetent. But it's ridiculous when generals fall after one javelin volley, being among first to fall.

[EternalSilence]

Does anyone else experience that generals die immediately since patch 5? my cavalry commander dies before even charging a unit of javelin-men?? WTF

Generals dont 'die' fast.You just need the right general for the job.Cunning general is something different then a zeal/authority general.Some generals of my armies are just killing everything on site.Others i have to keep clear from danger, or they will fall to soon.

[GiorgioIII]

i have 9/10 of my generals killed. one of them mounted in heavy cavalry killed by charging a ing mob unit. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH CA

[Dunadd]

The best generals did not lead charges themselves - Scipio didn't, nor did Hannibal, nor Caesar. They were too busy giving orders and seeing what was going on in the battle in order to see what orders they needed to give next. The only ancient generals who could afford to lead from the front and still win were ones with such superior quality of troops that they didn't need to (e.g Alexander the Great vs the Persian Empire).

I did sometimes use my general in combat when playing Rome II, but only when things were desperate and then only along with other cavalry units.

[Cavalier]

Upgrade the Zeal and the generals will last longer

[craziii]

maybe their HP bonus got nerfed? compare to patch 4 and lower, they act like normal soldiers and dies fast. they used to last 3 to 5x longer than a normal soldier.

[krisslanza]

I'm thinking its Zeal matters a lot more now. I always give Zeal to my infantry generals, and Authority/Cunning to horse ones. Or Zeal to any I intend to actually use in combat.

[craziii]

what does zeal do?