Elefants and pikemen

[Yosemite]

Why elefants won't run over pikemens like they run over the swordmen? Even for the armoured elefants.

And why is it the same when you charge a piks unit from it's back? The elefants suddenly stops like it hits a wall. And the run animation keeps playing.

[guyyug]

if you want to see elephants run through pikemen or hopelites play RTR, or some other mod which allows this, the thing going into the back i have no idea, never seen that before

[Yosemite]

if you want to see elephants run through pikemen or hopelites play RTR, or some other mod which allows this, the thing going into the back i have no idea, never seen that before

But i play SPQR 6.1.


Sometimes i flank with elefants and charge enemy on its back, but elefants dont go trought pikes, even when it's to charge on their back.

[Carach]

in my TE campaign recently its been like dice rolling, sometimes the elephants smash my pikemen to pieces other times the elephants get slaughtered

[Korinthos Hoplites]

Shouldn't the eles get stuck (stabbed) by the pikes??

[guyyug]

Shouldn't the eles get stuck (stabbed) by the pikes??

the force of an elephant would break a wall of pikes or spears if the men are not well trained and could even break the more hardened ones aswell, well in the real world it would, troops would be demoralized by the huge beast and wouldn't hold their spear aswell

[Vanquisher]

Actually, elephants would not charge a wall of pikes int the first place unless they got them completely blinded like the Carthaginian ones. :tacticalw :tooth:

[Korinthos Hoplites]

Actually, elephants would not charge a wall of pikes int the first place unless they got them completely blinded like the Carthaginian ones. :tacticalw :tooth:

Poor elephants

[Vanquisher]

Poor elephants

What, I love being blinded like an ass!

EDIT:Blinded meaning drunken (notice the smily)

[Korinthos Hoplites]

Blinded meaning drunken (notice the smily)

Now that's a relief...

EDIT: I'm sure that well trained men would hold their pikes against the charge because they knew that was pretty much their only way of surviving. :hmmm:

[guyyug]

yes, but first time battles against elephants would break them, they have never faced a chargeing grey animal all the way from africa or asia before, i would like to see you hold a spear steady at one comeing at you

[guyyug]

Actually, elephants would not charge a wall of pikes int the first place unless they got them completely blinded like the Carthaginian ones. :tacticalw :tooth:

ok, they may not charge, but blind they would, and they could break a wall of spears

[Severous]

Theory: Spearmen reflect cavalry charge bonus back on the attacking cavalry. In V1.5 this reflection occurs no matter which direction the charge comes from. Perhaps the elephants are being halted by their own charge bonus being reflected back on them ?

[guyyug]

Theory: Spearmen reflect cavalry charge bonus back on the attacking cavalry. In V1.5 this reflection occurs no matter which direction the charge comes from. Perhaps the elephants are being halted by their own charge bonus being reflected back on them ?

think you hit it, elephants are classified as heavy cavalry in the game

[Brutius Bollocksus]

Thats seriously screwed up...

[Yosemite]

think you hit it, elephants are classified as heavy cavalry in the game

So there isn't anyway to fix it? Yesterday i played another game where i had two units of elefants. Thats like 16 elefants i believe. They could not go trought the little men, poeni infantry and other carthage stuff.

I am playing parthia. I wondered why they did not get skirmishers, armoured elefant, and cataphract archer.

[Severous]

Try running through the enemy formation..not charging them.

[Yosemite]

Already tried ans the same happens.

[Erwin Rommel]

does the game allow the pikes to be broken? no so them elephants will die in the pikes when there charged faltered how ever there was a time were in the siege of sparta the armoured eles charged straight down at the hoplites and they got demorilezed

[Severous]

Yosemite. Sorry I dont know one. I play on V1.5 and I am resigned to losses when cavalry charge into spear troops..from any direction.