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    Default Mithridates Pontic Roster Expansion (MPRE) v102



    Mithridates Pontic Roster Expansion (MPRE)



    This is a rather robust roster expansion for Pontus, aiming to fill in the many holes in their roster as well as reskin a few units.
    This mod takes heavy inspiration from EB and Classical Age-Total War in the unit designs, attempting to bring those designs into the new engine.
    All unit additions are stat balanced off of the vanilla units, attempting to keep them relevant and useful without being over powered.
    Version 102 released.

    External Link
    http://www.mediafire.com/download/6ih5301f8v4wb0e/MPREv102.rar



    NOW ON THE STEAM WORKSHOP
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=187743160
    Due to the nature the Steam Workshop, the version posted there will always be the most up to date.
    I STRONGLY encourage you to keep up with the posting there, as providing updates, images, and feedback response is so much easier.


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    Pontic Agema
    Hellenic Style Cataphract Lancers
    Trample, Form Diamond
    Bodyguard and Recruited from the level 4 heavy barracks
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    White Shield Pikemen
    Medium Regular Pikes
    Form Pike Phalanx, Steady
    Recruited from the level 2 and up heavy barracks
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    Galatian Nobles (Spear/Javelin & Shield)
    Heavy Spear Infantry
    Form Square, Form Shield Screen
    Recruited from the level 4 heavy barracks
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    Galatian Wild Men (Sword/Javelin & Shield)
    Medium Shock Infantry
    Recruited from the level 3 and up heavy barracks
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    Pontic Prodromoi Cavalry (Javelin/Sword & Shield)
    Heavy Skirmisher Cavalry
    Recruited from the level 3 and up auxiliary barracks
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    Pontic Thorax Peltasts (Javelin/Sword & Shield)
    Heavy Fast Peltasts
    Quick Reload
    Recruited from the level 4 auxiliary barracks
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    Pontic Thorax Spearmen (Spear/Sword/Javelin & Shield)
    Heavy Spear Infantry
    Form Square, Form Shield Wall
    Recruited from the level 3 and 4 heavy barracks
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    Cappadocian Horse Archers (Composite Bow & Sword)
    Light Horse Archers
    Recruited from the level 2, 3 and 4 auxiliary barracks
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    Cappadocian Lancers (Lance & Sword)
    Light Shock Cavalry
    Form Diamond
    Recruited from the levels 2, 3 and 4 heavy barracks.
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    Cappadocian Proto Cataphract Lancers (Lance & Sword)
    Very Heavy Shock Cavalry
    Form Diamond, Trample
    Recruited from the level 4 heavy barracks
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    Cappadocian Proto Cataphract Horse Archers (Composite Bow & Sword)
    Very Heavy Horse Archers
    Recruited from the level 4 auxiliary barracks
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    Armenian Cataphracts (Sword & Shield)
    Very Heavy Melee Cavalry
    Form Diamond
    Recruited from the level 4 heavy barracks
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    Bosporan Heavy Archers (Composite Bow/Sword & Shield)
    Heavy Cold Resistant Archers
    Precision Shot
    Recruited from the level 4 auxiliary barracks
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    Takabara Hybrid Archer Spearmen (Spear/Composite Bow & Shield)
    Light Fast Spearmen Archers
    Form Shield Wall, Rapid Advance
    Recruited from the level 4 heavy barracks
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    Galatian Charioteers (Swords & Javelins)
    Light Gallic Chariots
    Recruited from the level 3 and up heavy barracks.
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    Pontic Medium Lancers (Lance & Sword)
    Medium Shock Cavalry
    Recruited from the level 3 and up heavy barracks.
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    Pontic Light Swordsmen (Sword/Javelin & Shield)
    Light Melee Infantry
    Recruited from the military main and up the heavy line.
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    Bronze Shield Pikemen and Pontic Swordsmen Reskins
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    I hope you enjoy this roster expansion for Pontus, more updates are sure to follow as balance and appearances are tweaked if necessary. Please post any comments, suggestions, or problems you have with the mod!

    Credits
    Due credit goes to IGdood for his sword & spear animation fragment.
    To Ahiga for his bronze scale linothoraxes
    Last edited by Smarmy; November 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM.

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    Maximus183's Avatar Senator
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    Looks nice. I like where you're going with this already, judging by what there is to see.

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    what Mithridates? which one?

    you should read The Last King, great book about one of the later Mithridates
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    @Killergold88
    The variant mesh is based off of depictions of Mithridates VI, Mithridates the Great. I haven't read The Last King though, but it sounds interesting. The pack additions themselves will likely be a mix of early pontic and late mithridatic soldiers, for instance the freed slave phalanxes, or "white shields" which I'm working on right now.

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    I love Pontus, this looks very promising please keep it up!

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    Go faster bru. I wanna play a proper Pontus!

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    Wow, cool! Didnt know you could use the different unique character mesh's .. are there other characters that could be placed into the campaign?

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    @Chinaski Thanks! I'm working on it, little harder than the greek packs
    @Osbot Quality over speed, I want them to look right and it wont be 100% until I get some bronze scale going.
    @aNarion Unique character mesh's? This is an officer variant I tossed together from some inspiration I received. I'm going to insert him as a general if I can get him unique to Pontos, or as a special officer easter egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarmy View Post
    @Chinaski Thanks! I'm working on it, little harder than the greek packs
    @Osbot Quality over speed, I want them to look right and it wont be 100% until I get some bronze scale going.
    @aNarion Unique character mesh's? This is an officer variant I tossed together from some inspiration I received. I'm going to insert him as a general if I can get him unique to Pontos, or as a special officer easter egg.
    Eastern Legionary Scale or something is bronze scale.

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    Default Re: Mithridates Pontic Roster Expansion (MPRE)

    looks really good!
    keep it up

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    Is that historical?

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    Looks promising! Great work.

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    this looks spectacular
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    Unit progress updated, Agema posted.

    @Osbot
    Yeah the roman and carthage scale variant defs use the eastern scale rigid model, I've already used it but I can only use it for so many things in so many ways. Changing the diffuses for the iron eastern scale, steppe scale/etc, in addition to some hybrid bronze scale linothoraxes would be ideal. In the mean time I work with what I have, to make what I can.

    @Doom M.D. Thanks!
    I'm very fastidious when it comes to the designs, some are very easy though and take less than an hour, others have me tweaking for more than that trying to get the appearance just right. I don't consider it post worthy unless I'm about 90% satisfied with the appearance, and I'm never usually 100%... there's always some little minute detail I wish I could change/correct but can't for one reason or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarmy View Post
    @Doom M.D. Thanks!
    I'm very fastidious when it comes to the designs, some are very easy though and take less than an hour, others have me tweaking for more than that trying to get the appearance just right. I don't consider it post worthy unless I'm about 90% satisfied with the appearance, and I'm never usually 100%... there's always some little minute detail I wish I could change/correct but can't for one reason or another.
    well i'm definitely impressed. I think your units are easily some of the best on TWC far. have you just worked on just the appearance of the units or have you worked on their stats as well? if you've already put some stats on some of them, i'd love to start using them in game and get you some feedback.
    Last edited by Doom M.D.; October 16, 2013 at 10:15 PM.
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    just some ideas from what I read about Mithiridates, he made alliances with pirates in the Black Sea to serve as his fleet, he also had Roman exiles train some of his troops to become legionaire style armies, much of his calvary was taken from local tribes who were ferocious, like the progress so far good luck with the mod

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    Do you have a list of units you are working on? I'm kind of curious how you plan to expand the roster. I've looked at the EB Pontus roster and CA has more or less covered the "native" troops, it just hasn't covered the Gallic troops that Pontus seemed to have employed.

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    Very, very cool. Hope you will do Barbarians one day.




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    How do you change the clothing underneath the armour? adding a tunic line variantmeshdefinition? looks very very nice

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    @Doom M.D
    It's the appearance mostly, the entries are there for all of the units but with placeholder stats. I had a lot of units to go over trying to get from concept to final draft. I'll finish stat balancing them today but I'm kinda waiting on patch 5 to see what it does.

    @Osbot
    A list of units? So far the count is 12 new units that I think are at about 90% satisfaction.
    Armenian Cataphracts, Cappadocian Proto-Cataphract Lancers/Horse Archers, Cappadocian Light Lancers/Horse Archers, Galatian Light Swordsmen, Galatian Nobles (a new unit basically, reskinned and unique to Pontos), Heavy Skirmisher Cavalry, the late bodyguard (Agema), White Shield Pikes, Takabara Spearmen, Pontic Thorakitai, and the bronze shield reskin. There's 3 more units I would do but lack for parts, they will have to come in a future version.

    @Master Necromancer
    Thanks! I probably wont, though, there's already a good mod that's focusing on them that will be moving to brits and germans soon enough that's heavily inspired by EB.

    @Aguirre
    For this pack in particular I've made a ton of my own custom armor variant meshes, finding a tunic I like as base and putting it underneath the armor, etc. Replacing the original tunic line.

    I'll try to get a bunch more pictures up today for all of the new units, I have to do that as well for EARE, take a look at patch 5 when it comes out and see what I need to do for both mods.
    Last edited by Smarmy; October 18, 2013 at 08:53 AM.

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