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    Default Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    Ever since Patch 4, AI sends random armies to roam my lands. Never attacks. Currently have peace treaties with some factions that have all their units massed at my city waiting. I could destroy their entire faction in one battle. This game is a joke lmao.

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    Sharpe's Avatar Praeses
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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    No it hasn't.

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.


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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    I have ally AI armies hang around my cities occasionally, in what looks to be a supporting role if there are enemies close

    after patch 4 the CAI is much more assertive in moving armies around to attack me from different directions

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    As Parthia I have random armies running around doing stupid stuff, making it easy for me to just take their cities. Within 35 turns on legendary I've already conquered everything east of Parthia and currently hold Antioch having just destroyed the kingdom of Armenia.

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    I have 5 navies/armies from 4 different nations in front of my city, ,Brundisiun,waiting I retreat my armie, and then declare war on me. That's what I call a good AI.
    Some are there for 8 turns, I guess that they will be there in 20 turn. Or untill I quite because after 30 turhs of misery I use to restart the game. More 30 turns.

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    This is first problem AI siege t, AI battle, AI campaing map have been broken yet.
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    This is second issue, diplomacy isnīt deep or immerse. There are only 4 options in the game and thatīs it.
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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    How dare you criticise that! It`s obvious that the CAI is thinking... very, very deeply. The game`s working great! Don`t criticise AI. Don`t say anything else is wrong. Love RTW2. Love it like meeeee!

    You`re just being negative!
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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    The stronger army always wins auto-resolve, so the AI sees your army nearby and realizes it can never win.

    So it instead just runs around, never fighting, until you die of boredom.

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    Had this happen to me today on the campaign map metaphorically. The ai at least knows when to regroup know

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raF9wfPxir8

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    Whenever there is a rebellion anywhere every faction that is aware of it sends a huge force to crush the rebellion, trespassing on neutral factions lands and exposing themselves to attack at home.

    The AI has no idea how to defend itself. I finally ended up at war with Macedon and as I moved my armies in they sent ALL of their forces to float outside Athens, who is also at war with them. They didn't blockade Athens or attack at all, they're just floating there. I have both of their cities besieged and Pella has one turn to go before it surrenders. They also thought it prudent to send a few thousand of their men to starve and die in the middle of the sea.

    Such a disappointment. I was hoping for two or three massive battles in this war, I got no opposition whatsoever.

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    I just got gang raped by everyone in my Egyptian game so I am not really feeling this thread.
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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by priam11 View Post
    I just got gang raped by everyone in my Egyptian game so I am not really feeling this thread.
    I second this I'm getting war declared on me because I lost 2 settlements it's like the AI can smell blood in the water so I totally disagree with this thread and I also play on legendary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLunatic777 View Post
    I second this I'm getting war declared on me because I lost 2 settlements it's like the AI can smell blood in the water so I totally disagree with this thread and I also play on legendary.
    Did either of you enter war with the Seleucids by any chance?

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    Would you guys recommend starting a new campaign for this? I looked on CAs stuff and their answer was wishy washy at best. I'm using the same game i've had since patch one....

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    i've never understood how people play on VH/Legendary (in any TW game) and expect the CAI to make 'reasonable' decisions. if you want reasonable, play on Normal. VH/Legendary means the CAI will be out to get you

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcantu View Post
    i've never understood how people play on VH/Legendary (in any TW game) and expect the CAI to make 'reasonable' decisions. if you want reasonable, play on Normal. VH/Legendary means the CAI will be out to get you
    the issue isn't that the AI is out to get us, its the fact that it has no idea how to play the game its in. I steamroll the AI on legendary. you think normal will be harder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGermanicus View Post
    the issue isn't that the AI is out to get us, its the fact that it has no idea how to play the game its in. I steamroll the AI on legendary. you think normal will be harder?
    And there are people that are having trouble with their campaigns. Are you saying we should disregard their opinion? Not everybody plays the same way.

    From what I understand the steamrolling comes from the fact that some players are able to "blitzkrieg" the AI before it has a chance to properly react which is pretty much like any game AKA StarCraft 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    And there are people that are having trouble with their campaigns. Are you saying we should disregard their opinion? Not everybody plays the same way.

    From what I understand the steamrolling comes from the fact that some players are able to "blitzkrieg" the AI before it has a chance to properly react which is pretty much like any game AKA StarCraft 2.
    I don't blitzkrieg at all. I prefer to have some form of Casus Belli. I just want the AI to put up a fight instead of abandoning its settlements to mill about off the coast, or prioritize defense of its homeland over sending its 3 fullstacks to take a settlement 3 provinces away giving me free reign over its territories. its decision making skills are supremely subpar. shogun 2 was much, much better in this regard. and to respond to your question, aren't difficulty levels the answer? if its too hard for you, play on normal or easy, I need it to be more difficult.

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    Default Re: Patch 4 in my opinion has made the campaign AI even worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGermanicus View Post
    I don't blitzkrieg at all. I prefer to have some form of Casus Belli. I just want the AI to put up a fight instead of abandoning its settlements to mill about off the coast, or prioritize defense of its homeland over sending its 3 fullstacks to take a settlement 3 provinces away giving me free reign over its territories. its decision making skills are supremely subpar. shogun 2 was much, much better in this regard. and to respond to your question, aren't difficulty levels the answer? if its too hard for you, play on normal or easy, I need it to be more difficult.
    Well if the AI was doing that in my campaign I'd be steamrolling too but unfortunately the AI is not abandoning its settlements to mill about off the coast. Every time I've invaded a region the AI if its armies are still around will converge and fight me off. If possible they'll send in armies to engage me as well and will use fortify or raid to make it harder to drive them out. Then I have to deal with their damn agents since they're so effective with them that work to slow my armies or damage my cities. Granted I have my own agents but eventually that raid works one way or the other. Hell the AI even aims to kill/wound a general before attacking my army.

    The second I lower my defenses in one area the AI sends in an army to that area. Sure I could take one of their settlements but that means sacrificing one of my own. Right now I'm being attacked on all sides and barely holding so I don't see how one could "steamroll" when you have half a dozen AI armies converging on you and keeping you tied down. Granted I can move forward but only at a snail's pace.

    I mean how do you capture the enemy settlement when there's an auto garrison there and there are three enemy armies swarming your region and you have 1-2 armies on hand to fend them off while your other armies are on the other side fending the other side?

    So again I don't see how you can "disregard" other peoples' campaigns that are turning out differently than yours.

    I mean maybe you're just a kickass player? The day an AI without cheating at all beats the human player is a day when the world ends.
    Last edited by nameless; October 16, 2013 at 12:27 AM.

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