How many copies has Rome 2 sold?

[SirRobin]

Does anyone have any credible sales figures for the game so far?

[krisslanza]

I can't find any concrete numbers of overall sales. However, it's been listed as having 7 times the pre-orders of Shogun 2, and on release day has outsold all other previous Total War titles, and also has had the most concurrent players.

It's also been the most successful Total War title ever.

[chris10]

- it's been listed as having 7 times the pre-orders of Shogun 2,
- on release day has outsold all other previous Total War titles,
- also has had the most concurrent players.
- most successful Total War title ever.

If people knew what the game had waiting for them all the above would not have taken place...
so you could perfectly say that this was a Fifo's fraud or a con (game) in the sense of the word...

[stackero]

If people knew what the game had waiting for them all the above would not have taken place...
so you could perfectly say that this was a Fifo's fraud or a con (game) in the sense of the word...

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. DEAD ON. Rep coming your way.

If you haven't aready guessed, the poster you fence with belongs to the Temple of the most high CA where truth or complaints will not be tolerated. So I wouldn't waste my breath. Just saying. Do as you will.

[krisslanza]

If people knew what the game had waiting for them all the above would not have taken place...
so you could perfectly say that this was a Fifo's fraud or a con (game) in the sense of the word...

You mean if they knew a good, but buggy, release was waiting for them? That's pretty good. It's only going to get better with some patches. The game is a lot nicer now that the turns actually cycle faster then several minutes.

But I forgot this is TWC, if you like a Total War title, you're an apologist.

[chris10]

You mean if they knew a good, but buggy, release was waiting for them? That's pretty good. It's only going to get better with some patches. The game is a lot nicer now that the turns actually cycle faster then several minutes.

But I forgot this is TWC, if you like a Total War title, you're an apologist.

Since you mention the apologist thingi one could get the impression you take on the shoe cause it fits you
But seriously...what is good and what not is ultimately only dependant on the personal view of a person and then there
are poeple who are more demanding and more difficult to please than others.
Its like with all quality stuff...there are many people who are perfectly happy to buy Chinese made crap tools (no offense) with falsificated test seals who break after using them a few tiems and then there are those who buy the expensive stuff made in Germany (intended generalization) which costs multiple times more but with a bit of luck will last for decades.
I wont spin an analogy with Rome 2 but let me say this: TWC houses the more refined, the older, more mature and the more demanding community compared to official TW.org and a lot of the older tend to be less compliant and less prepared to swallow crap when its thrown their way, especially not when the game does not hold up in any way to most big mods of its predecessor.
As well TWC is not a corporate forum like TW.org. hence its policys are a lot less restrictive when it comes to criticizing and openly expressing dissapointment (accoridng to everybodys personal abilities in language and/or phraseology)
Fair enough that little authoritarian wannabes like you have no saying at all and anyway if you would run a forum it would go tits-up in no time cause you lack internal maturity (not age).

I mean, if TWC was my forum, I would've warned (and then probably banned) most of you already for not getting the message.

[stackero]

Since you mention the apologist thingi one could get the impression you take on the shoe cause it fits you
But seriously...what is good and what not is ultimately only dependant on the personal view of a person and then there
are poeple who are more demanding and more difficult to please than others.
Its like with all quality stuff...there are many people who are perfectly happy to buy Chinese made crap tools (no offense) with falsificated test seals who break after using them a few tiems and then there are those who buy the expensive stuff made in Germany (intended generalization) which costs multiple times more but with a bit of luck will last for decades.
I wont spin an analogy with Rome 2 but let me say this: TWC houses the more refined, the older, more mature and the more demanding community compared to official TW.org and a lot of the older tend to be less compliant and less prepared to swallow crap when its thrown their way, especially not when the game does not hold up in any way to most big mods of its predecessor.
As well TWC is not a corporate forum like TW.org. hence its policys are a lot less restrictive when it comes to criticizing and openly expressing dissapointment (accoridng to everybodys personal abilities in language and/or phraseology)
Fair enough that little authoritarian wannabes like you have no saying at all and anyway if you would run a forum it would go tits-up in no time cause you lack internal maturity (not age).

Originally Posted by krisslanza
Quote I mean, if TWC was my forum, I would've warned (and then probably banned) most of you already for not getting the message.





Thank God for TWC. If that last quote isn't the best donation incentive for real TWC fans to donate to TWC, I don't know what is. Another donation coming your way TWC.

Excellent, Outstanding and Awesome post chris10. Deserves rep, but will have to wait. There's been so many excellent posts, I've been promising out more reps than I can afford very soon. Because of replenishment and especially because of the time limit.

So many in fact, anytime now, I expect two guys named Vinnie and Jimmy showing up at my door crakling their knuckles, wanting to know where's so and so's Reps are.

Going to have to pace myself better, but to many damn good posts.

Again, great post.

[I, Claudius]

I can't find any concrete numbers of overall sales. However, it's been listed as having 7 times the pre-orders of Shogun 2, and on release day has outsold all other previous Total War titles, and also has had the most concurrent players.

It's also been the most successful Total War title ever.

About 230,000. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/72163/t...ome-ii/Global/

[Trippinbillies]

About 230,000. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/72163/t...ome-ii/Global/

solid find!

ill rifle through this site real quick, but to me that drop off is far too steep. I hope that the number post release will open there eyes.

or maybe the 14mil US is enough to keep them blind to the problem.

(not sure exactly who the problem is by the way though i have plenty of guesses)

[krisslanza]

solid find!

ill rifle through this site real quick, but to me that drop off is far too steep. I hope that the number post release will open there eyes.

or maybe the 14mil US is enough to keep them blind to the problem.

(not sure exactly who the problem is by the way though i have plenty of guesses)

Does this site track physical AND digital sales? I recall reading that Rome 2 actually outsold any game this year in the opening week if you counted digital sales, which make up the majority of its sales. Most things only track physical sales however.

[Tyso3]

Does this site track physical AND digital sales? I recall reading that Rome 2 actually outsold any game this year in the opening week if you counted digital sales, which make up the majority of its sales. Most things only track physical sales however.

If thats the case its more then 5 million (not including pre-orders) as GTA sold over 5 million on its opening week (weekend perhaps?)

[wulfgar610]

About 230,000. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/72163/t...ome-ii/Global/

Those sales have really bombed, at this rate Rome2 will sell less than Shogun2 over say 12 months.

They'll need to push that "second wind" button if they plan to rectify the sales.

[stackero]

Okay now hold on. Someone set me straight. You mean to tell me after all the massive dishonest marketing of CA, that they haven't hit a million sales of Rome 2 yet.

I find it hard to believe they didn't sell that many in the preorders alone.

Have I miss understood something or what?

[Primvs Sextvs Loverlord]

I can't find any concrete numbers of overall sales. However, it's been listed as having 7 times the pre-orders of Shogun 2, and on release day has outsold all other previous Total War titles, and also has had the most concurrent players.

It's also been the most successful Total War title ever.

The marketing team should receive bonuses for this feat. If anything, this is a marketing success rather than a gaming breakthrough.

And I didn't buy a copy after I read the reviews. I won't buy this game.

[SirRobin]

The marketing team should receive bonuses for this feat. If anything, this is a marketing success rather than a gaming breakthrough.

If it is indeed the most succesful TW yet, then not only the marketing deparment will get bonuses, also the leaders on various levels will taste their share of the cake, as they are likely on bonus contracts measured on Metacritic scores and sales numbers..

Also, for better and worse, if R2 has been a (business) success, then we should expect them to keep going down the road they are on.

This is why I am interested in if Rome 2 sold a lot, since that gives us an idea about the future of the Total War series.

[krisslanza]

If it is indeed the most succesful TW yet, then not only the marketing deparment will get bonuses, also the leaders on various levels will taste their share of the cake, as they are likely on bonus contracts measured on Metacritic scores and sales numbers..

Also, for better and worse, if R2 has been a (business) success, then we should expect them to keep going down the road they are on.

This is why I am interested in if Rome 2 sold a lot, since that gives us an idea about the future of the Total War series.

Rome 2 certainly sold very well. If anything, it's more or less cemented CA's reputation as a good game developer able to make successful titles. We won't have to worry about CA closing its doors anytime soon.

However, the next title from them is probably their joint project with Games Workshop in the Warhammer universe, rather then say Medieval 3 or something.

[caissus]

Too many.

[Humble Warrior]

They sold lots, which is why they can ignore us.

It occurs to me that it matters to CA more how they appear to outsiders than it does to the actual people who pay and play their games. They can say, "Look! We sold a zillion copies! that shows how popular and great we are!" Without ever mentioning the fact that it was sold on hype and that a LOT of people are very disappointed with the game. None of that seems to matter to CA right now as long as to the general public, shareholders and press it looks like a `winner`.

When Craig popped up on the 1st or 2nd day saying that `RTW2` is a great success shows someo of this twisting of the reality: RTW2 was a great success in hyping a game until it sold and preventing returns, but a great decption because it doesn`t actually mean that the great majority of people thought it was actually good. The game was bought on HYPE, not substance. Even before it was presented to me I knew something wasn`t right when it was such an incredible success after a day? How?

It`s not only a trick to potential players, but everyone else.

It goes deep, I think.

[Frost, colonel]

They sold lots, which is why they can ignore us.

Do you think that the negative reviews on Amazon etc, worry them at all, or is this impact and the hit on their reputation still of no concern for them, as sales are still high?

[Humble Warrior]

Do you think that the negative reviews on Amazon etc, worry them at all, or is this impact and the hit on their reputation still of no concern for them, as sales are still high?

I do think it worries them. CA obviously don`t like negativity as their official forum proves, but if you`ve followed CA like I have over the years, they`re a stubborn (and somewhat wiley) bunch. they`ll stick out the storm for as long as they can and the success of their hype has given them a lot of temporary ballast to float somewhat above the criticism for now.

But sooner or later they`ll start to have to come down and face the music. But I wonder if they have plans against that? Or are they just going to keep going and just hope that people keep buying regardless?