General Defections During Civil War?

[TheSavage]

I have been playing with most recent updates (not sure if it was patch 4 beta or patch 4 since Steam has updated my Rome 3-4 times in the past few days) as Rome.

When the Civil War struck, on the next turn I got messages that a number of generals had defected. I don't remember this happening previously. I think that none of them were from my family, and they may have all been from a single family. (I didn't load up previous savegames to see their details... and I could not longer see their details in my faction list because they weren't there anymore.)

It's not like any of my armies defected or anything. (I believe all the generals that defected were Statesmen at the time.) I'm not sure what effect these general defections had, other than the fact that i lost the generals and any positive traits they may have had.

But still... it does seem like CA is finally starting to flesh out the politics & civil war side of the game. It is still incoherent, don't get me wrong, but non-family generals defecting (even if it has little effect) is at least a step in the right direction.

So did anybody else notice this? Have you noticed this pre-patch 4, or is this new? Anybody have any idea why certain generals defect?

[[N2]Kami]

Seem interesting, this must be new.

[Lugotorix]

I have been playing with most recent updates (not sure if it was patch 4 beta or patch 4 since Steam has updated my Rome 3-4 times in the past few days) as Rome.

When the Civil War struck, on the next turn I got messages that a number of generals had defected. I don't remember this happening previously. I think that none of them were from my family, and they may have all been from a single family. (I didn't load up previous savegames to see their details... and I could not longer see their details in my faction list because they weren't there anymore.)

It's not like any of my armies defected or anything. (I believe all the generals that defected were Statesmen at the time.) I'm not sure what effect these general defections had, other than the fact that i lost the generals and any positive traits they may have had.

But still... it does seem like CA is finally starting to flesh out the politics & civil war side of the game. It is still incoherent, don't get me wrong, but non-family generals defecting (even if it has little effect) is at least a step in the right direction.

So did anybody else notice this? Have you noticed this pre-patch 4, or is this new? Anybody have any idea why certain generals defect?

This was in as of patch 3 at the least. Didn't happen for me though. As Rome/Carthage it's usually a particular family.

[2gutter67]

This has happened since the release that generals from the rebelling families - normally the other two families you did not choose - would all defect upon the civil war. However, there were not any messages for it until now.

[archone]

I suspect the current civil war is just a "placeholder". Since CA didn't have time to finish the defection system, they just gave a rebels a bunch of new armies. Civil war was probably a repeatable event and politics still functioned after the civil war.

Hopefully they can eventually finish the politics system, the current one is really lazy.

[♠ Thomas Cochrane ♠]

plus the whole shamozzle of when you are very popular with the court, you get a civil war. AND when you are not very popular with the court, you get a civil war. wtf?

Playing as Macedon, I got my first eruption of 18 full stacks at my capital. Antigonas' party had 48% support (down from 80% at the outset). The thing is though, that my family members had loads of gravitas and the other guys didn't. So what gives? Is something (else) wrong here, or do I just not understand faction politics

[AngryTitusPullo]

I didn't get this (1st patch 4 beta but before the hotfixes). Playing as Parthia and get to see the lion video only. No other message generals defected or anything. Reloading the last auto save before the civil war makes it not triggered again.

[craziii]

I hope not.

if my own high lvl army stacks rebel, I would probably stop playing this game for good. my own stacks that I have carefully groomed through army traditions rebelling. undoing all that hardwork since turn 0? it will 100% stop me from playing rome 2 again.

[karamazovmm]

I hope not.

if my own high lvl army stacks rebel, I would probably stop playing this game for good. my own stacks that I have carefully groomed through army traditions rebelling. undoing all that hardwork since turn 0? it will 100% stop me from playing rome 2 again.

I hope quite the contrary, i want the generals, not the statesman, suffering a loyalty check and if they fail the army goes to the rebels, I want some provinces seceding and not just a single town

currently Im not confident that they actually didnt finish this, Im confident that with so much threads about how the CW is unfair and all, if they actually made CW a challenge, people would just rage quit

I think that the same kind of thinking also applies to the political system, if it in any way started interfering with the main purpose of this game which is war, people would start complaining about rome total politics or made the economy harder, rome total economy