Features listed in the manual that were ripped out before the release date

[hellblazer]

Please read these passages from the manual and help to figure out what features didn't make it in by the release date.

Page 12
Internal Politics

Allow your party to become weak and vulnerable, and civil war may see your people exiled from the capital, with little option to go to war against the rest of their faction. If your party is regarded as too powerful, rivals withing your faction may unite against you, and you'll have to fight off rebels at the capitals gate.

Civil wars can only rage for a limited number of turns, at which point the conflict is resolved with a treaty and the power divided.

Page 13
Improved Diplomacy

When factions are joined in a war against another alliance, a new war co-ordination feature allows the targeting of enemy settlements, armies and agents. These targets generate a mission that allies can pursue to aid the greater war effort. The likelihood of them accepting such a misson is influenced by their view of your faction. You'll also receive missions when your faction is brought into a war by an alliance.

On page 12 it sounds like if your faction was at the bottom of the totem pole when civil war breaks out the other family or faction gains control of your nation and if you want it back you have to conquer it. The AI would take control of all your international diplomacy and you would become a rebel stack and then after a set number of turns you either gain control of your nation again (and international diplomacy) or you become a new nation state and must establish diplomatic relations with foreign nations.

On page 13 you can only target enemy cities from the diplomatic screen. I don't believe you receive missions from other nations?

[Ataegina]

both are in-game, what happens in reallity is that both are very buggy............ check your facts first.


the second about targeting, you've it ingame (via diplomacy). i did it myself in pin pointing a settlement for my allies to attack. but like i said its there, but its bit buggy.......... besides tthe target thing, you get popup time to time "new target is avaliable"......... so................ have you even played the game? i sell pitchforks very cheaply

[Toho]

@Ataegina.

please show me if the Internal politics bet is true.
I have yet to see it.

on reddit someone had ZERO and still no civil war.

[hellblazer]

I haven't played to the point of getting a civil war but I heard it is just a scripted event where an army spawns near your capital which sounds like the situation when you have all the power. If the civil war breaks out and you are at the bottom do you immediately lose control of your nation including diplomacy with other nations and you become a new faction like a new sucessor kingdom that keeps the few cities you are able to hold on to?

So imagine you are Rome. You are at the bottom of the tottem pole and the moment the civil war breaks out you are now called "Rome Beta" with an empty diplo screen where you can do diplomacy with the nations that support you versus Rome. If a certain number of turns pass and Rome doesn't stomp you out and you never retake the capital but instead sue for peace with Rome and you establish a new sucessor kingdom with a new banner, diplo window, etc?

I was under the impression it wasn't this deep whereby Rome Beta whether you or AI controlled can be a new successor kingdom that can establish diplomatic ties with outside nations (influenced by which side they supported during the civil war). I was under the impression that the civil war was win or nothing??? So a whole new faction is created when the civil war happens that can conduct diplomacy with all the other nations in the game and you can beat them down or hold them off and sue for peace and agree to divide the kingdom between you?

I haven't got that far into the game but the manual makes it sound like the features are deeper than what is actually present in the game as read in the forum.

I said that I knew you could highlight a city for your allies to target but you can't target agents or army stacks and I questioned if allies actually called out stacks, agents, and cities for you to attack (or decline to attack). I was under the impression it would only be like so and so declares war on so and so and requests that you declare too.

[karamazovmm]

its true and I think its based on a counter, you should try the civil war thread that we have here, we are doing experiments and trying to see what is true or not