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    Icon4 Roman Archers Unit Packs (Land & Naval)







    Roman Archers Unit Packs


    About the mod
    First, the mod allows the recruitment of land and naval archers for the Roman faction. It offered three unit packs. Each has different models but are otherwise similar. You can take the favorite. All packs are compatible with each other and it`s possible to switch my packs for the same save game. The land units are recruitable with aux military buildings level 2-4 and unlocked on later military research (trainingsreform, mercenary assets, remuneration reforms, professional soldiery). The naval units are recruitable with large military ports level 2-4. All land units can be upgraded to the next level. The naval units were assigned to different ships (one halfer, two halfer, three and five).

    --- UPC language files ---
    All my mods are with UPC support (Unit Pack Compatibility).
    Language Info: This mod will show unit names/descriptions of all Roman Archer Units only if its played on english version of the game (language can be switched on steam), other languages needs UPC Project to be installed.
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?621968

    --- Steam Workshop ---
    Roman Archer Units Classic
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=212380096
    Roman Archer Units Advance
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=210338695
    Roman Archer Units Imperial
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=210963495
    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Classic
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=215669973
    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Advance
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=215670118
    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Imperial
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=215670254

    --- Alternative Links ---
    (all in one WinRAR file)
    Roman Archer Units Classic
    Roman Archer Units Advance
    Roman Archer Units Imperial
    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Classic
    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Advance
    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Imperial

    Old (Patch 9):
    http://www.imagenetz.de/f5ee86812/Ro...Packs.rar.html
    New (latest Patch): coming soon.............................................................................

    Unit Cards BullGod style
    CREDITS: Some existing unit cards were changed by me after my models. I have simply complemented different parts (cut out and insert) and have changed some colors. Something is still improved.

    All credits go to the creators!!!

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    BullGod***
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    Tostig***
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    Raguen***
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    ThogPL/Tessali***

    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Classic
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    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Advance
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    Unit Cards BullGod style for Roman Archers Imperial
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    The land and naval units

    Roman Archer Unit Pack - Classic





    Campaign land and naval

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    Levy Archers
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    Unit Cards

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    Roman Archers
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    Unit Cards

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    Auxiliary Roman Archers
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    Unit Cards

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    Auxiliary Heavy Archers
    &
    Unit Cards

    Credit: Icon Auxiliary Roman Archers made by Burebista thank you very much!

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    The land and naval units

    Roman Archer Unit Pack - Advanced





    Campaign land and naval

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Levy Archers
    &
    Unit Cards



    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Roman Archers
    &
    Unit Cards

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    Auxiliary Roman Archers
    &
    Unit Cards

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    Auxiliary Heavy Archers
    &
    Unit Cards

    Credit: Icon Auxiliary Roman Archers made by Burebista thank you very much!

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 




    The land and naval units

    Roman Archer Unit Pack - Imperial





    Campaign land and naval

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 




    Levy Archers
    &
    Unit Cards


    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Roman Archers
    &
    Unit Cards

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    Auxiliary Roman Archers
    &
    Unit Cards

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    Auxiliary Heavy Archers
    &
    Unit Cards

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    Upgrades military research



    Roman Archers

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    Auxiliary Roman Archers

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    Auxiliary Heavy Archers

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    Last edited by Chieftain John K.; July 17, 2014 at 04:20 AM.

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    Thank you very much. I will test this out and feedback here so you can mod, but my first impression is that they are a bit over the top, their ammo, armor, moral and essantially almost everything Transcends over the most elite of persian archers. Further tweaks are required. Thanks again.

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    I think you're right. You probably noticed that I like to play the Romans . This is simply the opening for the Roman Archers Unit Pack. You could also say beta! I have compared the values ​​of the Velites. They have no armor and a weak shield. I believe the ammo are +5, thats true. This unit can be later recruited on aux military building level 3. So it's already one of the best. I'll be waiting for your suggestions. There is still much time to change something...

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    this is fantastic!!is there anyway these units can be placed onto a vessel such as a trireme?

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    Absolutely. The army included archers are Transportable. There is a table in the main_units_tables which allows the naval unit -> roman_transport.

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    i think he means, would you be willing to set em up as a naval unit, its not that hard, just look in the db tables to see how CA have done it and copy what they did

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    Ah yes you can change the archer unit on board. Clone the archer unit in main_units table again (double the Row). Then change in the main_units table is_naval --> TRUE and change the naval_unit --> what you want. Previously may ship still identify in the table at naval_units.

    P.S. Maybe you have to change even more db files. I have not thought about it ...until now!
    Last edited by Chieftain John K.; September 22, 2013 at 06:16 PM.

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    Quote Originally Posted by Chieftain John K. View Post
    P.S. Maybe you have to change even more db files. I have not thought about it ...until now!
    Haha yeah, I found that out the hard way...

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    Ich würde mich auf max. 3 Bogenschützen beschränken, die ersten drei genannten. Am Ende haben die Römer ja noch eine vielseitigere Auswahl als "Archer Factions" wie z.B. die Perser. Desweiteren würde ich bei Aux. Barracks Lvl 2 anfangen. Fehlende Fernkampfeinheiten sind der einzige wirkliche Nachteil der Römer, wenn sie von Anfang an auch noch Bogenschützen haben, sind sie komplett overpowered, nachdem sie schon eine gottgleiche Infanterie besitzen. Ich stimme zu, dass auch die Römer Zugriff auf Bogenschützen haben sollten, allerdings nicht so schnell, insb. da historisch gesehen die Römer ja wirklich erst durch ihre Eroberungen an Bogeneschützen gekommen sind, selbst aber keine besaßen. Zudem sollten die Bogis nicht sehr stark sein. Aber von Anfang an? Dann haben die Römer ja gar keine Schwachstelle mehr.

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    So i tested them out quite a bit, they are "slightly" Op, they should be recruited later on ( tier III or IV ) to compensate for their above the average stats and they ought to lose some abillities. All in all they retain a roman look, which is good. Keep up the good work. I wish to make a request if possible, maybe you have noticed as you have mentioned you play as rome, well me too, and i cpuldnt avoid but to notice that the romans armor is slightly below the average take a look at the veteran hoplites, spartan heroes and more, their armor is stronger than the romans leora segmentata which the armored legionners wear. Therefore, I suggest a rebalance in the armor section in the favor of the romans.

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    Sorry to double post but I can't edit my posts :/
    How do I add the new tables to your current mod??

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    Quote Originally Posted by Igor85 View Post
    Ich würde mich auf max. 3 Bogenschützen beschränken, die ersten drei genannten. Am Ende haben die Römer ja noch eine vielseitigere Auswahl als "Archer Factions" wie z.B. die Perser. Desweiteren würde ich bei Aux. Barracks Lvl 2 anfangen. Fehlende Fernkampfeinheiten sind der einzige wirkliche Nachteil der Römer, wenn sie von Anfang an auch noch Bogenschützen haben, sind sie komplett overpowered, nachdem sie schon eine gottgleiche Infanterie besitzen. Ich stimme zu, dass auch die Römer Zugriff auf Bogenschützen haben sollten, allerdings nicht so schnell, insb. da historisch gesehen die Römer ja wirklich erst durch ihre Eroberungen an Bogeneschützen gekommen sind, selbst aber keine besaßen. Zudem sollten die Bogis nicht sehr stark sein. Aber von Anfang an? Dann haben die Römer ja gar keine Schwachstelle mehr.
    So first thank you for your contribution. This is not a thread for a German translation. Which is only used by the Germans. That means you have to write English or both. Therefore I answer in English, so do not be surprised. At most about grammar

    thanks for the feedback!!!
    I give you all right and I'll change that too. Well, you have to start with something (modding) and I have to test my work and therefore I release them (more people find more). Also, I love the archers of Rome 1. Normally this unit would be available not from the beginning. If everything works, I can move on more archers, change parts of the units (weapon, armour, helmets), balance, stats, required technology & buildings...Don`t worry, this unit will then not be available from the beginning!
    As soon as I have time I will offer a complete Unit Pack.

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    I got it too work... looks quite bad-arse I must say

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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    That looks quite good. I will test it. That could change in my mod, too. Btw, this is the first picture with my English description. The descriptions were already finished...

    Onscreen
    level 1: "Levy Archers" (planned: required technology & building)
    level 2: "Roman Archers" (planned: required technology & building)
    level 3: "Auxiliary Roman Archers" (planned: required technology & building)
    level 4: "Auxiliary Heavy Archers" (planned: required technology & building)

    Einheitenname
    "Einberufene Bogenschützen"
    "Römische Bogenschützen"
    "Römische Auxiliarbogenschützen"
    "Schwere Auxiliarbogenschützen"

    Short
    "An arrow shot in Rome's service is always a good thing. Levies are plentiful, and can stand in battle."
    "These effective roman archers are fast moving and lightly armoured. In the right hands, simple weapons are still deadly."
    "From behind auxiliary roman archers can shoot down on many enemies, doing terrible killing work."
    "These loyal auxuiliaries are effective soldiers, veterans doubly so. Good, skilled archers will always find a place in the ranks of the Roman Army."

    Kurz
    "Ein geschossener Pfeil im Dienste Roms ist immer eine gute Sache. Diese Männer sind reichlich vorhanden und können im Kampf standhalten."
    "Diese effektiven römischen Bogenschützen sind schnell und leicht gepanzert. Auch in den Händen vom Pöbel, sind einfache Waffen tödlich."
    "Römische Auxiliarbogenschützen lassen tödliche Pfeilhagel auf ihren Feind niederprasseln, und verursachen schreckliche Verluste."
    "Diese Hilfstruppen sind treue und effektive Soldaten, das gilt für Veteranen doppelt. Gute, erfahrene Bogenschützen finden immer einen Platz in den Reihen der römischen Armee."

    Long
    "Throughout the civilised world, levies formed the backbone of armies. Massed in large numbers, levy archers can inflict heavy casualties."
    "Recruited from among Rome's poor and those too young to fight in the ranks as hastati, the roman archers were the Roman army’s light escort."
    "Roman archers can inflict heavy casualties when they are used in large numbers, and their greater bows give them a good range, accuracy and penetrating power."
    "Auxiliaries supplemented the legions of the late Republic and Principate and were recruited from non-citizens, usually provincial volunteers or from allied kingdoms. Being stationed in Roman provinces, under Roman rule, had an inevitable Romanising effect on auxiliaries, as did the rewards of service: land and citizenship."

    Lang
    "In der gesamten zivilisierten Welt, bilden Einberufene das Rückgrat der Armeen. Zusammengefasst in großer Zahl können Einberufene Bogenschützen schwere Verluste verursachen."
    "Rekrutiert aus den ärmeren Bürgern Roms und zu jung, um in den Reihen als Hastati zu kämpfen, bilden diese Bogenschützen die leichte Eskorte der römischen Armee."
    "Römische Auxiliarbogenschützen sind gut ausgebildete Fernkämpfer, die ein Gladius mit sich führen und bei einem Angriff durch leichtere Truppen standhalten. Gegen schwere Einheiten benötigen sie Unterstützung."
    "Hilfstruppen ergänzen die Legionen der späten Republik und Prinzipatszeit und wurden von Nicht-Bürgern, in der Regel provinziellen Freiwilligen oder von verbündeten Königreichen rekrutiert. Gerade in römischen Provinzen stationiert, unter römischer Herrschaft, hatte dies einen unvermeidbaren Einfluss auf die Romanisierung der Hilfstruppen, wie auch die Belohnungen nach der Dienstzeit: Land und Staatsbürgerschaft."
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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    Roman archers (Model-->work in progress)

    The Roman Archers Unit Pack works good! Everything is integrated (units and descriptions, abilitys, colour, required military buildings and technology). This is just my testing phase. More information and screenshots will follow.
    Last edited by Chieftain John K.; September 26, 2013 at 03:50 AM.

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    what about unit stats..... could you post some pics about that

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    (WIP) EDIT screenshots see first post

    I'll prepare something. But I'm very busy. Real life costs money. And I will improve my mod much more
    But some can I calm down already. The archers are all unlocked with later aux military buildings and military technologies. All archers can be upgraded and gain continously experience.


    It is currently so...and I think I can not do many more for a later archer recruitment

    The archers are available until late and need a later technology. This requires many rounds of research and the cost to upgrade is relatively high.

    Levy Archers
    --> required aux military building 2
    --> required technology training reforms
    --> upgrade Roman Archers (cost 300)


    Roman Archers
    --> required aux military building 3
    --> required technology mercenary assets
    --> upgrade Auxiliary Roman Archers (cost 600)

    Auxiliary Roman Archers
    --> requiredaux military building 4
    --> required technology remuneration reforms
    --> upgrade Auxiliary Heavy Archers (cost 900)

    Auxiliary Heavy Archers
    --> required aux military building 4
    --> required technology professional soldiery
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    Default Re: Auxiliary Roman Archers + UPC German Support

    EDIT (WIP)

    There will be 2 versions with 4 Archer Models. I will offer both. Then everyone can decide what they like!

    The first version gets the name:
    Roman Archer Unit Pack - Advanced

    The second version will be named:
    Roman Archer Unit Pack - Classic


    Roman Archer Unit Pack - Advanced

    Levy Archers
    --> required aux military building 2
    --> required technology training reforms
    --> armour leather
    --> melee weapon gladius
    --> missile weapon bow
    --> poorly trained
    --> early infantry officer
    --> average scouting
    --> rapid advance
    --> upgrade Roman Archers

    Roman Archers
    --> required aux military building 3
    --> required technology mercenary assets
    --> armour leather
    --> melee weapon gladius marian
    --> missile weapon recurve bow
    --> trained
    --> marian centurion
    --> good scouting
    --> rapid advance
    --> precision shot
    --> upgrade Auxiliary Roman Archers

    Auxiliary Roman Archers
    --> required aux military building 4
    --> required technology remuneration reforms
    --> armour scale
    --> melee weapon gladius imperial
    --> missile weapon composite bow
    --> elite
    --> centurion
    --> superior scouting
    --> quick reload
    --> precision shot
    --> upgrade Auxiliary Heavy Archers

    Auxiliary Heavy Archers
    --> required aux military building 4
    --> required technology professional soldiery
    --> armour mail
    --> melee weapon gladius elite
    --> missile weapon longbow
    --> elite
    --> centurion
    --> elite scouting
    --> quick reload
    --> precision shot
    Last edited by Chieftain John K.; September 26, 2013 at 03:52 AM.

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    images are really small could you post the links with them bigger

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    Very nice work you got there keep up the good work

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