All capture/victory points removed

[auboy]

Hehe, yeah! I've gone through the edited files and they are clean. I've gone through the referenced XML's in the packs and I can't find this particular VP anywhere. Using EditSF 1.0.7 I looked at PENDING_BATTLE for the info and these are the references I could find to the pending battle:

terrain/battles/arena_north_africa/

Arena

terrain/battles/coastal_island/

terrain/battles/main_rome_map/

terrain/battles/main_rome_map/deployment/deployment_1750.xml

coastal_battle

town_persian

Battle of Numidia

terrain/tiles/battle/multiplayer/coastal_island/custom/screenshot_small.png

I've checked these as well, and not at any of these locations is there anything as well. I know the next Live-patch is going to remove some of these anyway, so I'm gonna let this one slide until the patch comes out and then dig further. It's not often this happens anyhow, my first on very many battles.




Nope, I have this in Live-patch 2 as well. It's something 'hidden' and not in the normal place, but I will hunt for it after beta 3 has gone live. It can take a whole evening to find this thing, if ever. There are thousands of files, and some times like this the thing you look for is referenced at some other point that's not in the natural order of things when the pack-files are concerned.

Great to hear! Thanks so much for this awesome mod I can't play without it!

[DramaBelli]

Zowrath you're an hunter, man! AUBOY, not necessary, but I confirm Zov's words: I do not own the beta patch 3. I'm waiting for official release so I think I've found a rare situation. Same as in the case of Zov's coastal battle in Numidia. Mayben in one year, with bigger complete mods, Zowrath's mod will be inserted into a launcher to give us the choice to use or not this feature. Exactly what CA could give us now. Impossible

[Garensterz]

Please update it to patch 3. It's bothering that Vpoints still occur in coastal battles. And it is now possible to remove it, they did it in Difficile Hardcore Mod. But it'a an overhaul mod and the changes in their Ai is not really my type. Hopefully you could remove it.

[auboy]

Please update it to patch 3. It's bothering that Vpoints still occur in coastal battles. And it is now possible to remove it, they did it in Difficile Hardcore Mod. But it'a an overhaul mod and the changes in their Ai is not really my type. Hopefully you could remove it.

Actually they could not do it in that mod either. From the mod notes:

- removed 3 more capture the flag battle occasions, I believe those getting spawned with combined navy and army battles can't be removed

[zowrath]

Yes. For example if this is some kind of totally random map where the VP don't have any given position but are placed depending on which forces and where one has to pretty much unpack every single file and go through them until we can find a reference. This is the worst case scenario though. We'll see what Live 3 patch brings.

[0ldboy]

Great mod, well done fella.

[Hansfranz]

download link isn't working for me

[Hansfranz]

nevermind din't see the other link, sry

[Garensterz]

Actually they could not do it in that mod either. From the mod notes:

- removed 3 more capture the flag battle occasions, I believe those getting spawned with combined navy and army battles can't be removed

Im sorry but your wrong. Im using Difficile mod right now and I already played 5 coastal battles(campaign)without a victory point popping up. Maybe you used the an old version of the mod?

[zowrath]

Im sorry but your wrong. Im using Difficile mod right now and I already played 5 coastal battles(campaign)without a victory point popping up. Maybe you used the an old version of the mod?

Well, the coastal battles alone are not enough to trigger the VP. I've had many of them before, but when it came to north Africa (Numidia) it went south. DramaBelli had it in the exact same place as well. So some places it won't show up, and some places it will. If one only knew why at this point. In the scope of things it is really random and low chance though unless you fight a lot of land/sea battles in that area.

[DramaBelli]

Zowrath, here the battle we discussed Yesterday. The interesting point is that (I sue lines of battle mod) the AI did not try to catch the flag sending ALL units against the center of my line, despite the fact the flag was working.

[zowrath]

@DramaBelli Oooooh. Do you have the pre-battle savegame for this one? Or the autosave before the turn? I'd like to go through the entries with EditSF. Also, if anyone has savegames prior to a battle were the VP turns up, please make it available for download somewhere. The more of these I have, it will hopefully make it easier for me to track down.

[DramaBelli]

hate myself cause I do not save the locality as preferred or something similar but...could the replay file help you?

[zowrath]

Hmm, I don't know. But it can't hurt to try.

[DramaBelli]

Zowrath, it's happened again. Here a pic with the place i fought a coastal-land battle. AI had to defend. AI landed all units on ships so when I put near their flank some missile ships to hit them, they started to move.Result, they attacked me so I had to hold the lines. when situation was safe for me I sent a landed archer unit to keep the victory point and after some time an already won battle, ended. Hope it will help. It took ages to upload this ing pic

[zowrath]

@DramaBelli

What setup is that? Is that custom battle setup? I haven't seen that screen while playing as I only play single player campaign. I am not sure I interpret the image correctly, as my Italian is "a little rusty". Seems to narrow it down to the coastal battle map though. I have unpacked all the tiles/terrain files and searched in both plain-text and for select binary values and I do not think this value is in "the correct" or assumed place.

[DramaBelli]

nothing so weird man, just explaining that this is a custom battle screen (I cut on the borders). select' "coastal battle" (battaglia costiera) and then select place "siracusae" being you the attacking army. you should play my same own battle even if with different units/factions. I only play custom battles. I still not try a campaign since it's too many full of stupid bugs. we can assume by now this weird fact affects only coastal battles- (PS: don't care about "mappa della campagna" this is not a campaign/campagna menu)

[Tredlador]

+1 rep, Flags in pitched-battles r Jupiter's worst trick. Ever.

[Super67]

@zowrath
My friend. Twice in Fortify stance, my game crashed on loading the battle. Doesn't happen without your mod. Do you need a game save? I maybe be able to provide crash report? but im not sure what i need. i saw what i though were dump files but not sure. I'm going to try and reproduce the crash today.

[DramaBelli]

Hi Zowrath, too many time without a report here news of today: Prologue Campaign. Capua under siege by samnites. Me only with garrison. On the field the VP still present. (No patch beta 3 installed). I choose to defend the core VP in the middle fo the city. They attack. I defend all troops around the VP. Meanwhile the "voice" says I'm winning and enemy routing (despite of they larger number) Battle ends declaring MY small defeat I assume probably cause I've lost 2/3 VP. What a stupid feature, if this is how it works. Main question here is: VP present in prologue campaign if the AI siges Capua.