soooo is anyone actually happy with rome 2?

[Joseph the Brave]

I really only see complaints, are there any people who actually like the game?

[krisslanza]

Plenty. Don't let TWC fool you into thinking like, 90% of the fanbase is up in a rage to burn CA's offices down over Rome 2. Technical issues and bugs aside, I haven't found anyone outside TWC who hates Rome 2.

[IlluminatiRex]

Plenty. Don't let TWC fool you into thinking like, 90% of the fanbase is up in a rage to burn CA's offices down over Rome 2. Technical issues and bugs aside, I haven't found anyone outside TWC who hates Rome 2.

Agreed. The only friends of mine on Steam that have expressed some dislike of Rome II are also TWC users

They're entitled to their opinions, don't get me wrong, but don't let TWC fool you into thinking its the only opinion.

[Crymson]

Plenty. Don't let TWC fool you into thinking like, 90% of the fanbase is up in a rage to burn CA's offices down over Rome 2. Technical issues and bugs aside, I haven't found anyone outside TWC who hates Rome 2.

Goodness knows I have. I think it's equally presumptuous to assume that most people are happy with the game.

[krisslanza]

Goodness knows I have. I think it's equally presumptuous to assume that most people are happy with the game.

Except given Rome 2 is still one of the most played games on Steam, that would disprove TWC's belief that every customer loathes Total War with all their heart.

[KelmanConquerer]

I play Rome 2, and that shows on steam. That does not however reflect my negative feeling toward it. I paid good money for it and got some basic mods to make it playable. That does NOT mean that I am happy with Rome 2.

[mutad1]

Only an idiot can be happy with this game.

[absinthia]

Plenty. Don't let TWC fool you into thinking like, 90% of the fanbase is up in a rage to burn CA's offices down over Rome 2. Technical issues and bugs aside, I haven't found anyone outside TWC who hates Rome 2.

TWC is a site dedicated to the TW series, that is fanbase. people here care about the TW games.
Steam is a site selling games to casual gamers, is not fanbase. people there care about the next "cool" offer.

it is not like 90% of the fanbase are down on their knees to kiss Sega/CA`s feet...

[krisslanza]

TWC is a site dedicated to the TW series, that is fanbase. people here care about the TW games.
Steam is a site selling games to casual gamers, is not fanbase. people there care about the next "cool" offer.

it is not like 90% of the fanbase are down on their knees to kiss Sega/CA`s feet...

TWC is a forum community, this by definition already makes it a minority. Most people don't ever join official forums, unless they need to in order to look at things on it - and even then, they don't actively participate in the forum, and will only register to access whatever it was they were looking for (i.e. download links).

Given Steam is also required to play TW, it by definition, is also TW's fanbase. You can't have TW without Steam (with the newer games), in other words, the ones playing Rome 2, are also it's fanbase. Unfortunately, TWC likes to assume you are some grand council of the fanbase, and the words spoken here are law.

Which is just ridiculous.

[absinthia]

TWC is a forum community, this by definition already makes it a minority.

a forum community is by definition a minority?!

Given Steam is also required to play TW, it by definition, is also TW's fanbase.

again with the weird definition...
steam is a online store, with a monopoly it seems, not a fanbase.

[krisslanza]

a forum community is by definition a minority?!

Well looking at the front page, TWC seems to have about 250,000 users. I think someone said Rome 2 has sold around 7 million, right? To be generous, that means TWC represents 3.5% of the buyers of Rome 2. This is of course, not accurate at all, given some of that is bots and the like. Of course, TWC has an 'active member' count which is only 32,928 members: 0.4% of the R2 buyers.

In other words, a minority, yes.

[mutad1]

Minority???!!!!!Are you kidding me!!!????Who are you and where have you been past several years????You must be from Siberia, that explains everything.Alaska, maybe?After they have released ROME II, servers are crushing, is it still looks to you as a minority??!!!

[Yojimbo]

TWC is a forum community, this by definition already makes it a minority.

You do know its the biggest TW forum online right and one of if not the oldest? We have massive variety of mods tons of smart people and a huge staff of passionate people. ITs not just a forum at least its not for me. TWC doesn't have delusions of grandeur it has grandeur and the history and size to back it up. People here are aggressive towards CA because we are hardcore fans and take the games and bugs with them seriously.

Its worse this time because it has come to light that CA without a doubt don't give a damn about their fanbase or fans in general and make games completely from the ground up for metacritic scores and good review scores.

[kafrion]

TWC is a forum community, this by definition already makes it a minority. Most people don't ever join official forums, unless they need to in order to look at things on it - and even then, they don't actively participate in the forum, and will only register to access whatever it was they were looking for (i.e. download links).

Given Steam is also required to play TW, it by definition, is also TW's fanbase. You can't have TW without Steam (with the newer games), in other words, the ones playing Rome 2, are also it's fanbase. Unfortunately, TWC likes to assume you are some grand council of the fanbase, and the words spoken here are law.

Which is just ridiculous.

TWC might be a minority as far as the platerbase is conerned but it is a majority as far as diehard fans are concerned . And if you want to form a good judgement about a game discussing with hardcore fans is the way to do it . Ofc you can also do it by talking to guys who play it for a day and then go back to GTA or Skyrim but then it would be wortless ...

[xeronak]

Plenty. Don't let TWC fool you into thinking like, 90% of the fanbase is up in a rage to burn CA's offices down over Rome 2. Technical issues and bugs aside, I haven't found anyone outside TWC who hates Rome 2.

You havent looked very far then. Off the top of my head I can already pinpoint the people over at metacritic, the official CA forums, some portions of Reddit and the Somethingawful forums, etc.

[krisslanza]

You havent looked very far then. Off the top of my head I can already pinpoint the people over at metacritic, the official CA forums, some portions of Reddit and the Somethingawful forums, etc.

Which are all, again, minorities. Not to mention, hating on Rome 2 is the "cool" thing to do right now. I've looked at the Meta reviews a bit, and most of them are just spewing of hate - there's no actual review there, which throws them being entirely legitimate into question. And some of the reviews are just low because it didn't run for them - and they decided to review the game before any patches came out to fix those technical issues, so the review isn't really accurately portraying the game at all.

Also, an actual negative review would point out actual flaws that are entirely broken - technical issues and bugs. Saying Rome 2 is the worst TW ever made because you don't have a family tree, does not make the game actually bad. Technical issues and bugs are bad, yes, but they are also FIXABLE problems which CA is currently working to address. You can't have one bad experience with an unpatched product, and then decide it is terrible. Rome 2 runs better 'out the box' then Shogun 2 does.

[mutad1]

Who the f...are you?You're not gonna saved them, your opinion doesn't matter.Why don't you buy a game, go played it and them come back you rewiew guy.Now if you do understand these games, tell us for example what did not like about MED II?SHO II?I don't care about your answer, you've never played those games.

[Dago Red]

Plenty. Don't let TWC fool you into thinking like, 90% of the fanbase is up in a rage to burn CA's offices down over Rome 2. Technical issues and bugs aside, I haven't found anyone outside TWC who hates Rome 2.

I'd wager you don't know that many people playing Rome II then. I help run another old gaming community forum and no one there is a member (as far as I know) of TWC. They are just casual gamers who sometimes buy Total war games or at least bought the original Rome: Total War. They are not happy with Rome II. Others I know, younger than my generation have picked up the series and also are totally unhappy with Rome II.

Why? Because it's a deeply flawed game, with superficial gameplay and poorly implemented features. That's aside from the bugs, which are beyond reasonable.

But personal anecdotes aside, you can see user and fan meta scores that are abysmal all across the web. You don't have to take our word for it here. You don't even have to take the general consensus of TWC (which is a massive community that by no means represents any monolithic voting block, and yet still the overwhelming response from 33,000 different people to Rome II is negative). The truth is plain for anyone to see.

Let's hope they make strides to fix it in forced march stance, and don't get bugged up along the road....

[krisslanza]

I'd wager you don't know that many people playing Rome II then. I help run another old gaming community forum and no one there is a member (as far as I know) of TWC. They are just casual gamers who sometimes buy Total war games or at least bought the original Rome: Total War. They are not happy with Rome II. Others I know, younger than my generation have picked up the series and also are totally unhappy with Rome II.

Why? Because it's a deeply flawed game, with superficial gameplay and poorly implemented features. That's aside from the bugs, which are beyond reasonable.

But personal anecdotes aside, you can see user and fan meta scores that are abysmal all across the web. You don't have to take our word for it here. You don't even have to take the general consensus of TWC (which is a massive community that by no means represents any monolithic voting block, and yet still the overwhelming response from 33,000 different people to Rome II is negative). The truth is plain for anyone to see.

Let's hope they make strides to fix it in forced march stance, and don't get bugged up along the road....

The general consensus on the internet is, aside from TWC itself, Rome 2 has gotten generally favorable reviews from professionals and fans alike. Ones who don't judge it based on their nitpicky needs, and make the logical guess that the technical issues/bugs will be fixed in due time.

I mean, yeah, if you somehow think they won't, and your <insert favorite feature here> isn't in the game, you'd obviously think Rome 2 is garbage.

[raest]

The general consensus on the internet is, aside from TWC itself, Rome 2 has gotten generally favorable reviews from professionals and fans alike. Ones who don't judge it based on their nitpicky needs, and make the logical guess that the technical issues/bugs will be fixed in due time.

I mean, yeah, if you somehow think they won't, and your <insert favorite feature here> isn't in the game, you'd obviously think Rome 2 is garbage.

"generally favourable"? have you been keeping up with the gaming industry recently? an average score of 79/100 from "professionals" (LOL) is hardly "favourable". since big, known, hyped, polished games usually get over 85/100, an average score so low usually means either a) it's a hyped game that turned out a piece of you-know-what or b) a hidden gem from a developer/publisher that didn't spend enough money on "revie".. sorry, "marketing". RTW2 happens to be a)

Pretty sure SEGA is actually one of the good companies.

what is this parallel world you live in? none of the bigger publishers are "good", and SEGA is no different. had you been keeping up, you'd have noticed even some plainly open interviews with PR people admitting doing "good" stuff like putting pressure on reviewers to get high scores etc.

with your constant defending of a product obviously shipped months before it should've with features that don't work as advertise or are missing, the only conclusion i can honestly draw is that you're either a CA and/or SEGA fanboy/groupie or a CA/SEGA plant/bot