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    What happen? These Unit Cards are garbage. CA either glossed over or simply skimped on graphical design and effort into this part of the game. I've seen the BS video they've posted trying to spin "Why" they changed them...BS as I said. Yes there are a lot of unit cards to make, but this should never have been an issue.

    RTW and all related MOD's had great unit cards. Same with MTW2...then it took a step down in ETW...and another step down in STW2...with the ultimate pile of dog poop we have now. Might has will have made stick figures as drawings. Not only do they look poor, they are vanilla and hard to distinguish btw unit types. Not to mention we have to click into our wonderful slow Encyclopedia...a whole other issue.

    I am not expert Modder, I can fiddle with script files, and txt files...that's about it. I know the amount of time and effort it would require to overhaul the unit cards in this game...but is ANYONE doing it?

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    The artwork is a matter of taste. I personally thought Shogun 2 had the best unit artwork of all, but then again I love Ukiyo-E woodblock prints. One thing they do need to improve is to add more info. It's now difficult to figure out how much men you've lost, whether the unit is tired, amount of missiles left etc

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    The entire aesthetic is all over the place. Panting style digital art for events, basic icons for building pictures, greek pottery style unit cards, bare bones UI. It's all immersion breaking. There should be a unified art style for each culture, a shogun 2 times 3 at least.

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    Worst unit and building cards EVER. They look ugly and similar to each other.

    I think that designer spend 20 minutes for all building and units cards, because they look so simple and unimaginative.

    I lost a desire to play the game because of this disgusting design work.

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    I suppose I wouldn't mind somewhat stylized unit cards if they looked like, say, the Alexander Mosaic (which was a mosaic from around 100 BC, but was allegedly based on paintings from the 300s BC), but the unit cards really look more like black-figure pottery from around 600 BC or so.
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    Default Re: Give Us Back Quality Unit Cards

    i think the unit cards are fine right now. I wouldnt mind some mods in the future for variety though.

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    Default Re: Give Us Back Quality Unit Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by ajtboy View Post
    What happen?
    Unit card is kill

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    I still can't tell unit cardsof the same family apart at a glance. lolollllll

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    First I thought they're terrible but i grew right fond of them lately. Only concern about them is the missing number of actually soldiers of a unit. Can't understand why they changed it.

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    They spend everything on marketing and creating amazing screenshots/vids. Unit cards were made during lunch(probably kids were involved)

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    I actually kinda like the unit cards, i just wish they would add more info.
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    Default Re: Give Us Back Quality Unit Cards

    double.
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    Default Re: Give Us Back Quality Unit Cards

    a) art is a matter of personal taste, for the most part.

    b) the artwork displayed in the unit cards is made by professional artists, and when i say professional i don't just mean they got paid for it, i mean they probably have extensive experience, studies and, since they work at a big company i'd say talent as well.


    So... are you guys that your taste for art is somehow more valid than theirs? Specially taking into account that most of you probably don't have serious studies in art&design.


    I personally think that, while not perfect, the concept is great, and most of the heavier-elite unit cards i've seen look amazing.


    And btw, if you are telling me that, artistically, this:





    looks better than this....




    then we have a problem, buddy.
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    Default Re: Give Us Back Quality Unit Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    And btw, if you are telling me that, artistically, this:
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    looks better than this....
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    then we have a problem, buddy.
    I absolutely agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    a) art is a matter of personal taste, for the most part.

    b) the artwork displayed in the unit cards is made by professional artists, and when i say professional i don't just mean they got paid for it, i mean they probably have extensive experience, studies and, since they work at a big company i'd say talent as well.

    So... are you guys that your taste for art is somehow more valid than theirs? Specially taking into account that most of you probably don't have serious studies in art&design.

    I personally think that, while not perfect, the concept is great, and most of the heavier-elite unit cards i've seen look amazing.

    And btw, if you are telling me that, artistically, this:

    http://img.brothersoft.com/screensho...256715107.jpeg

    looks better than this....

    http://cdn2.gamefront.com/wp-content...lrg.jpg?cda6c1

    then we have a problem, buddy.
    "Art" you say? This is Picasso:


    ^ Art. I can't imagine video game with this .... art. Can you? Maybe TW Rome 3? So don't talk about art, you don't need "studies in art&design" to say that video game unit cards are ugly, eyes are enough.. and R2 unit cards are ugly, cloned, (over)simplistic, CHEAP.
    -two colours, two c/paste patterns, two days work- instead of two weeks.. and no, they are not 'artistic' they look like toilet icons
    Last edited by arthuros; September 19, 2013 at 10:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    a) art is a matter of personal taste, for the most part.

    b) the artwork displayed in the unit cards is made by professional artists, and when i say professional i don't just mean they got paid for it, i mean they probably have extensive experience, studies and, since they work at a big company i'd say talent as well.


    So... are you guys that your taste for art is somehow more valid than theirs? Specially taking into account that most of you probably don't have serious studies in art&design.


    I personally think that, while not perfect, the concept is great, and most of the heavier-elite unit cards i've seen look amazing.


    And btw, if you are telling me that, artistically, this:





    looks better than this....




    then we have a problem, buddy.
    It might just be me but the first picture of rome 1 has much better looking unit cards...I guess we have a problem...buddy.

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    Default Re: Give Us Back Quality Unit Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    a) art is a matter of personal taste, for the most part.

    b) the artwork displayed in the unit cards is made by professional artists, and when i say professional i don't just mean they got paid for it, i mean they probably have extensive experience, studies and, since they work at a big company i'd say talent as well.


    So... are you guys that your taste for art is somehow more valid than theirs? Specially taking into account that most of you probably don't have serious studies in art&design.


    I personally think that, while not perfect, the concept is great, and most of the heavier-elite unit cards i've seen look amazing.


    And btw, if you are telling me that, artistically, this:





    looks better than this....




    then we have a problem, buddy.
    Those unite cards in RTW are less generic than that of the ones in STW2. They are good, but if RTW was made in the same year as STW2...technology and therefore graphics would be superior, if done in the same manner.

    YES this is personal preference...

    All that said, the NEW unit cards are crap. Anyone can get used to them or anything for that matter when u have no choice.

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    Default Re: Give Us Back Quality Unit Cards

    I`ll be honest. i`ve seen the unit card design up close and (gasp) I like it. It`s exactly the kind of thing I like doing too. It`s a very daring design.

    Really I do. it`s very evocative, in my view, of the period. It pretty much looks like the sort of thing the Romans would`ve seen almost every day... except no nekkid ladies.

    When I first saw these UI screen shots I thought maybe the game was going in the right direction...
    Last edited by Humble Warrior; September 19, 2013 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humble Warrior View Post
    Really I do. it`s very evocative, in my view, of the period. It pretty much looks like the sort of thing the Romans would`ve seen almost every day... except no nekkid ladies.
    I'd think maybe Roman antique collectors might have seen them every day. I doubt many ordinary Romans from the 200s B.C. saw a lot of black-figure vase art from 300 years before them. Crude graffiti, sure. More contemporary styles of art like what we see in Pompeii, sure. I'm not familiar with lots of contemporary black-figure pottery in the period, though. Of course, there could have been a revival in that style that I'm not aware of.
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    I like the unit cards in Rome II.
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