Could the Family Tree be patched back in?

[Xanto]

CA responded to the question with this:

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...l=1#post788538

Defiantly sounds like it's not off the table, and I don't see why CA would make a response to that if they weren't thinking about it. Thoughts?

I do hope so, NTW & ETW felt very lacking without a family tree...

[karamazovmm]

I hope not

[SKSlave]

I hope not

Why not? What possible downside is there to adding in a family tree? It would make your characters better to relate to and give some much needed context and detail to your generals.

[karamazovmm]

Why not? What possible downside is there to adding in a family tree? It would make your characters better to relate to and give some much needed context and detail to your generals.

its not simple introducing a new feature, that would involve more debuging and time.

that could have been spent on better optimisations and expansion of things that are already in there

aside that I can't care less for family trees

[Greve Af Göteborg]

aside that I can't care less for family trees

Well, unfortunately for you you're in the minority.

[krisslanza]

Well, unfortunately for you you're in the minority.

Actually odds are you are in the minority. TWC represents, at best, maybe 5% of the TW fanbase. You guys are actually the minority.
Just a particularly loud part, that ends up speaking for the silent majority who doesn't really care.

Also honestly, a family tree isn't needed. A House is not some kind of blood-related thing, it's just a collection of people who all are working under some common name and such. You don't have to be related to each other to belong to the same House.

[jpinard]

its not simple introducing a new feature, that would involve more debuging and time.

that could have been spent on better optimisations and expansion of things that are already in there

aside that I can't care less for family trees

Wow, you like shallow gameplay? The campaign is somewhat soul-less without the family tree dynamic of the first game.

[jimlawl]

Why not? What possible downside is there to adding in a family tree? It would make your characters better to relate to and give some much needed context and detail to your generals.

It's a Brazilian troll. In most games, they're anti-social, they only speak Portuguese amongst themselves even tho all other ESL players speak it and if they do speak English, it's mostly insults, complaints and dumb statements and questions. You can search 'Brazilian gamers' in Google and see the overwhelming negative response to their rude behaviour.

[Remo]

I hope not

Why is it every time I see you respond to something like this, it's always against any type of change to the vanilla game, no matter how little it would effect your personal game play experience.

You are just constantly shooting down everything people would like added.

The people want it, the masses WANT the family tree, and CA needs to give it to them.

[Goth]

Yeah bring the family tree back, developing a family legacy was an enjoyable part of the game in MTW2 and RTW, can the OP add a poll for us to vote on?

[Fastfreddie]

The family tree system fits this period because its all about bloodlines or preservation of them. Bloodlines weren't quite as relevant when nations were being turned into democracies or having revolutions so I understood Empire/Napoleon.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

The family tree system fits this period because its all about bloodlines or preservation of them. Bloodlines weren't quite as relevant when nations were being turned into democracies or having revolutions so I understood Empire/Napoleon.

Yeah, except, you know, those autocracies that survived.

[SKSlave]

If it's properly tested and not rushed out like the rest of the game it would work fine. I think it would be a great addition and very much worth the time and effort to make it.

[karamazovmm]

again time spend on something that doesn't add anything is time wasted.

[johnny_b_good]

again time spend on something that doesn't add anything is time wasted.

Just one more CA guy. They should listen fans and modders. How many ppl work on this game? There was no room for Darth? Still I can't get it...

[Xanto]

again time spend on something that doesn't add anything is time wasted.

Which is your opinion... but I think it adds a good amount to the game, as do many others.

[wumpus]

again time spend on something that doesn't add anything is time wasted.

Speak for yourself, pretty lady. In the games I play, I find family trees VERY useful. If you think family trees are of no use to you, or simply a waste of time, not for me--not for many others out there--only they don't make a sound about it [and many don't even participate in this forum], but they can't see anything can be done about it because the omission is now there. Hawooh.

[krisslanza]

Speak for yourself, pretty lady. In the games I play, I find family trees VERY useful. If you think family trees are of no use to you, or simply a waste of time, not for me--not for many others out there--only they don't make a sound about it [and many don't even participate in this forum], but they can't see anything can be done about it because the omission is now there. Hawooh.

Honestly again people, you need to understand this:
TWC is a minority. You all, at best, represent 5% of TW's playerbase. I might be generous and say 10%, but that's a huge stretch. You just happen to be a really VOCAL minority that has a forum that is actually read by the devs - meaning you put words in the mouth of the majority of players who probably do not share your concerns or ideals. This is a rare case of the "vocal minority, speaks for the silent majority".

[Kinjo]

Honestly again people, you need to understand this:
TWC is a minority. You all, at best, represent 5% of TW's playerbase. I might be generous and say 10%, but that's a huge stretch. You just happen to be a really VOCAL minority that has a forum that is actually read by the devs - meaning you put words in the mouth of the majority of players who probably do not share your concerns or ideals. This is a rare case of the "vocal minority, speaks for the silent majority".

Your wrong and CA needs to stop removing core features from the game.

Family trees have been part of the series from the beginning and this unfinished stream lined crap CA tried to replace it with is not cutting it. If any game needs a family tree it's Rome 2, especially with how many faction leaders you will go through by the time your campaign ends. Hell I bet most players don't know who their faction leader is let alone finding out who your faction heir is so you can groom him for command.

[krisslanza]

Your wrong and CA needs to stop removing core features from the game.

Family trees have been part of the series from the beginning and this unfinished stream lined crap CA tried to replace it with is not cutting it. If any game needs a family tree it's Rome 2, especially with how many faction leaders you will go through by the time your campaign ends. Hell I bet most players don't know who their faction leader is let alone finding out who your faction heir is so you can groom him for command.

If someone isn't able to read a "Faction Leader: <name>" at the top of the politics screen... or that, I believe, the faction leader (for any House) is always the first one shown on the list...
Then I believe the heir is whoever is right below, but I haven't checked that to be sure. I only particularly took care of my daimyo in Shogun 2, as if his rank fell behind, I'd get Loyalty penalties. I don't think your Faction Leader did anything special in Rome 1. And in Rome 2, about the only thing special to him is you can't assassinate him.