To all RS2 fans:

[=Vastator=]

Thanks to you and to the whole RS for the awesome work.
A quickfix, beta patch for 2.6 will be really welcome.

I am coming from Rome II too ...

[the man, the myth, the legend]

Agreed, I have a feeling a lot of people are gonna continue to play RTW and M2TW for a long time. People are still churning out RTW mods and some big M2TW mods are due to come out within the next year or two, I know I'll be here to play them as well as many, many others. I have not played R2TW, I wish I could but I don't have the equipment that will allow me to run it, and I know that there are many out there that are like me. That being said, even if I could play it, I'd probably play for a while beat it a couple times with a couple different factions and then come back to play some RSII, some EB, some Stainless Steel, and then the next great mod will have come out for RTW or M2TW. No, I don't think the horse is dead, I think there is much life left. I would, however love to see RSII on Medieval2, even if it was just built off of De Bello Mundi, no need for another complete conversion when most of the hard work is done, you guys could just do a big submod for it, everyone would love to see that.

[Candy_Licker]

Well, I think you have already pushed the game far, far beyond the limits. I don't think it can be improved anymore. You really pushed the game to another level.

But I can't bear the Rome engine anymore. Especially the 20 faction limit, I know you did your best with the 'free' factions, but 20 factions are way to few for this time frame.

If Rome/Med mods wouldn't have these hardcoded limits I could ignore CA's newest miscarriage for quite a few years.

[Larkin]

It's up to you. I think RSII is pretty much perfect as it is, but if there are more things to be added to it I don't see why not. I still prefer to sink hours into this than into SS or any of the newer games really, and would always be interested in playing RSII with more features and fixes.

But it wouldn't be the end of the world just to make sure it runs pretty much flawlessly without any bugs or massive glitches and leave it at that.

[Fridericus Rex]

I do not intend to purchase ROME 2 for some time, primarily because of the Steam setup, which is annoying, and the lack of mod-ability (for a lay person that is).

I will be playing RS2.6, and if there is a 2.7 both, for a long time to come. If you continue with this mod, let us know your plans and perhaps we all can motivate and encourage you.

[stackero]

, but I wonder if RS2 has reached its pinnacle, and there just isn't enough interest in it any more. So I'm looking for a bit of input as to whether there is enough interest to continue developing RS2...or should we just pack it in and be proud of our success without trying to beat life into a dead horse?

Don't even think of giving up on RS2. I've been a lurker for near 10 years and I've raged forth because of the release of that game they call 'Rome 2.' It will never equal the epic- ness of RS2 no matter how much patching they do and I said so in several threads among other things, in the Rome 2 forums. I played the game long enough to know the basic design compared to other TW titles hasn't near the potential for modding. Yes, it's possible CA may redesign and upgrade to improve it, but patching alone is not going to save that game. They may make it more playable, but as I said, RS2 will beat anything that comes from it. That's not to say modders won't eventually be able to improve it. I've fled Rome 2 forums to come here and express my Johnny come lately appreciation for RS2 and encourage you not to give up on it, as it stands now, RS2 is the closes game to what a real Rome 2 should be. So lets hear no more of this dead horse crap. RS2, mount up on a new stallion with vigor and charge into the fray of new ideas and innovation to improve to such a new level; RS3+. I've played a lot of excellent TW mods but RS2 always was my favorite. If the team is suffering burnout that's one thing, but if you believe it's lack of fan interest, believe me you're wrong. And just wait until all those serious gamers over in the Rome 2 forums find out CA is not going to restore that game to the glory they know it should have, they'll all be herding back to their favorite watering hole with a new found respect for all the modders here. Sorry. This turn out to be a little bit of a rant. Started out just to give a few words of appreciation for all RS2 mod team's work and the spirit hit me and here we are. Chin up, chest out RS2, don't dare just let your masterpiece sit on the shelf gathering cobwebs. Ride on, Ride.



'The great questions of the day will be decided not by speeches and majority votes... but by iron and blood' -Otto Von Bismarck
'Be not a person of moods but a person of deeds' -Isocrates

[Candy_Licker]

Don't even think of giving up on RS2. I've been a lurker for near 10 years and I've raged forth because of the release of that game they call 'Rome 2.' It will never equal the epic- ness of RS2 no matter how much patching they do and I said so in several threads among other things, in the Rome 2 forums. I played the game long enough to know the basic design compared to other TW titles hasn't near the potential for modding. Yes, it's possible CA may redesign and upgrade to improve it, but patching alone is not going to save that game. They may make it more playable, but as I said, RS2 will beat anything that comes from it. That's not to say modders won't eventually be able to improve it. I've fled Rome 2 forums to come here and express my Johnny come lately appreciation for RS2 and encourage you not to give up on it, as it stands now, RS2 is the closes game to what a real Rome 2 should be. So lets hear no more of this dead horse crap. RS2, mount up on a new stallion with vigor and charge into the fray of new ideas and innovation to improve to such a new level; RS3+. I've played a lot of excellent TW mods but RS2 always was my favorite. If the team is suffering burnout that's one thing, but if you believe it's lack of fan interest, believe me you're wrong. And just wait until all those serious gamers over in the Rome 2 forums find out CA is not going to restore that game to the glory they know it should have, they'll all be herding back to their favorite watering hole with a new found respect for all the modders here. Sorry. This turn out to be a little bit of a rant. Started out just to give a few words of appreciation for all RS2 mod team's work and the spirit hit me and here we are. Chin up, chest out RS2, don't dare just let your masterpiece sit on the shelf gathering cobwebs. Ride on, Ride.

I agree RSII really is the closest thing to Rome 2. But, what do you think can still be improved? RSII is literally perfect, the trait system, units, factions, campaign map, grphics (ENB), music etc.

A compromise might be to go for MedII, which has a few more possibilities, but I don't know if the huge amount of work will be worth it.

RII is a deeply flawed game, but vanilla Rome was far from perfect too. If CA hold on to their promise once, we should see modding tools in 6 months or so, which would enable advanced modding. I think it's a bit too early to give up on RII completely. The dumb AI and super fast arcade battles can and will be fixed. They are working on the ridiculous capture the flag system and other things.

Some things like the blobbing/unit cohesion might never be fully resolved with the Warscape engine

[stackero]

I agree RSII really is the closest thing to Rome 2. But, what do you think can still be improved? RSII is literally perfect, the trait system, units, factions, campaign map, grphics (ENB), music etc.

A compromise might be to go for MedII, which has a few more possibilities, but I don't know if the huge amount of work will be worth it.

RII is a deeply flawed game, but vanilla Rome was far from perfect too. If CA hold on to their promise once, we should see modding tools in 6 months or so, which would enable advanced modding. I think it's a bit too early to give up on RII completely. The dumb AI and super fast arcade battles can and will be fixed. They are working on the ridiculous capture the flag system and other things.

Some things like the blobbing/unit cohesion might never be fully resolved with the Warscape engine

Let me agree and disagree on some points. Agree RS2, near perfect and does push what can be done tech wise, but not necessarily in new play ideas. Agree RII is deeply flawed. Disagree; vanilla Rome with it's defects had a basic design that had great potential for modders, in my opinion RII does not.

Disagree, about CA's commitment to patch the game fully and redesign and upgrade basic parts of the game to make it more than just playable. If they don't do this then even our greatest modders will have a hard time in improving the game. I don't hate 'Rome 2', I want to play it more than a few hours before becoming disillusioned.

As bitter and outraged as I am at CA over the sham of a hyped, unfinished game and have given up on them as an honest and trust worthy company ever since Empire, I do hope they prove me dead wrong on how far they'll go to repair the game to the extent modders can make the game worthy to be called 'Rome 2 Total war'.

I know CA always releases games that need patches, but this is a new low, or was that Empire, well anyway are we to always accept the fact that if we buy a game from CA we must wait 6 months for them to fix the game so modders can come in and make the game what it should've of been on release?

If RII is improved enough that the RS2 team believes they can surpass their masterpiece then I'd urge them on. Same for Medieval 2, if they believe they can surpass their RS2 on it, I'd urge them on. That ball will be in their court.

As for new gaming ideas for RS2 I'll be throwing a few their way every now and then. Maybe a one or two may catch RS team's fancy, we'll see. I'm about to start an RS campaign shortly, need to get my creative juices flowing.

Hope my reply didn't come off as more of a rant. If I did, forgive me. But after all, its only a game, I keep telling myself.




The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill

[LEGIONARY_HAWK]

First of all no need to apologize RSII is the greatest mod of all time for any game ever made and btw im back from ROME II coz it sucks and i had an idea for RSII mod creators to merge some of ROME II features in RSII because really RSII is much much more fun than that stupid "new" rome but i can see that u already thinking about it so just please don't try to make RS for ROME II just get ROME II nice stuff (they're really few) to RSII if you can of course
and after all thanks for this great mod and for tons of fun that I or anybody else has played it ever had which looks like it will continue thanks to CA stupid ROME II.

[ImperialAquila]

dvk, I don't think people are losing interest. On the contrary, more and more people are coming back to play Rome I and its mods. Many of whom are disappointed with Rome II and CA not being able to deliver on their promises. Mods like SPQR, RTR, EB, and RSII still catch the attention of many.

Far from being a dead horse, RSII is actually the winning horse and many people are placing their bets on her. Many TW fans will be looking to this mod for a much better ancient world experience and help them forget the nightmarish horrors they faced in Rome II.

[Karion]

Dear sir, Rome is not dead, thanks to this and many other awsome mods, neither M2TWK; im glad for all the work and effort put here, shows a commitment and love for this game, which im proudly to play every time.

[GreatOne]

I've lurked these forums since a long time ago, most of it was because I was looking out for RS. I've started playing the mod since the days of 1.5 or something like it and it was the most enjoyable mod I've played. And i want to say thank you to the RS team from the always calm and collected with many visions DVK, to the master of the brush tone, apple with his music, and ofcourse all the other members, every single one of you.

Thank you for this awesome piece of work.

As for the future, if another big project is something you guys would fancy, I'd say M2TW is probably the best platform to port RS to, there are a lot of options from it that could be modified so it represents something for the ancient times. Papacy, maybe modded for overlord of the Successors or barbarians, crusades/jihads as the enemy of the romans/greeks/ a threat to the whole of gaul and somesuch there are a lot of gameplay mechanics that could be modded to add flavor and interesting gameplay choices to the game.

RSII is an awesome mod in itself, but as ever there is always room for improvement if only in minor tweaks and perfections with the game. For example i cant find the history behind Erytanes toxotai as they only have generic archer description

[Grimbold]

If there's one thing i miss from RSII when playing R2, it's the unit variety. Everything is so bland in R2

And the aspects that i thought were more complex, like diplomacy, aren't that at all.

[High Fist]

If there is anything RSII lacks, it's good diplomacy. That's it. This mod has amazingly deep trait and economic mechanics, is beautiful, has epic and huge battles, and is a real pleasure to play. It's something for all of you modders to be proud of. I am sure that any of the changes you have in mind for the mod can only be good ones dvk.

[ro6ertj]

DVK. RSII is absolutely the best game I have ever played . I am on 2.5 (2.6 is downloaded but I am mid campaign ) and it is fantastic.
To think this is a free game also is amazing, I have donated towards the server is a 'thank-you' to yourself and the modders of all the other mods.
I have a PS3 and still prefer to play RSII .
If there is a 2.7 or a port to use M2 then that also would be fantastic.
However should you call it a day that is fine, you have produced a work of art ...
Many Many Thanks from me and everyone who uses this mod.

[McCarronXLD]

I am very pleased to hear that you are keeping an eye on Rome 2. I would urge you strongly, pleadingly, to consider moving onto Rome 2. It needs a RS2 so badly.. so very badly.. if for no other reason than the amazing visuals your mod provides and the stat balances. I can't bring myself to play RS2 due to the issues my computers have with playing an older game like Rome.. but I can't help but look over RS2 pictures and wish that Rome 2 could experience that glory. If your mod team needed the game I would happily buy it for them in a heart beat if it meant a RS2 for Rome 2.

[Tredlador]

I am new to checking out mods, but I love RS II, I r on the look-out for more goodies - really like the way the battles last, and all the stuff you can build, and the big map, and loads of stuff to nom. Thank you.

That horse is still good. And if you're still having fun, (I s'pose that's the main thing), why not get the whole dream up?

+2

can i do that? +2?

[andrew.sawyer22]

keep up the good fight

[Audacia]

RSII is by far my favorite modification for any Total War game. The depth and immersion that it brings to the vanilla game is unmatchable. I don't think I will ever grow sick of RSII. It is a near perfect modification that doesn't need a plethora of new features. Dvk, you and your team have done an incredible job with the RS project and you should be very proud of your accomplishments. Patch 2.6, make it flawless, and then take your unmatched talents wherever you see appropriate. It's not up to us to dictate where you go from here. You've contributed more than your fair share to the community. Go and work on what you want to truly work on.

[DrakeEB2]

I'd love to see you and the team eventually work on Rome 2. You all have a ton of talent and down the road Rome 2 will be a solid game. And with great modders working on it it could be the epic game RS2 is.