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    Default How do you use your agents?

    Let's share our favorite uses of agents here! I'll start.

    Order of preference: spy > champion > dignitary

    - Dignitary: When I have to convert a lot of culture, I just build them along that route and leave them in conquered provinces to convert it for me. Besides that, I use them a bit like 2nd class spies/assassins to disable armies and assassinate key figures. More details about that under the spy section. I used to have them as support for spies trying to incite unrest, but the laughable performance of rebels against the AI has lead me to reconsider.

    - Champions: They boost armies, simple as that. Boring, but effective.

    - Spies: Man, I love these guys/gals. I recently tried out the "mass poisoning" tactic when disrupting armies and let me tell you... it's beastly. After sinking a point into mass poisoning, it easily wipes out 20% or more of each enemy unit in an opposing army. If the spy has an inherent trait that boosts mass poisoning, this can be even more. On top of that you get the usual benefits of the targeted army not being able to reinforce and stuff. I'm someone who likes having smaller, elite armies, so I don't have to micro 10 armies running around the map early in the game. I've occasionally gone up against armies of 60 quite high tiered units (beta patch 2.0 + 1 turn construction/research + legendary difficulty + Playing parthia + pissing off the selucids and all of their satrapies as early as turn 10-15 is pretty entertaining!). A favourite tactic here is to pick 2 of the 3 enemy stacks, poison them, then attack the third stack. This makes it a 20 v 20 battle, and my troops are more elite on a purely unit-for-unit basis. After I win, I can go on and attack one of the other armies, with the 20+% losses they've taken easily compensating for my losses in the previous battle. After that I can either attack the third stack, or retreat a bit. Having only 50% movement, that third stack can't really catch me if I pick "retreat", and if they pick that they'll get a double dose of poison from my 2 scouts next turn, which will drop them to maybe 20% of their full power, allowing me to scoop them up and rush right past with my revitalized army.

    Any army wants to siege your town? Poison. Rebels pop up? Poison. The garrisons can do the rest. It works offensively in enemy territories too, though their replenishment will take some of the bite out of it there.

    So, what tactics do you guys prefer to use?

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    Default Re: How do you use your agents?

    I use champions mainly to 'speed up the experience gain' for armies. Depending on the skills they have available they can be used to lower the upkeep and improve campaign movement.

    Spies are primaily used to assassinate generals but I also use them to destroy the baggage train of some armies I'd like to keep out of a battle. I do also use them to poison settlement wells.

    Dignitories are mainly used to spread or increase the unrest in rival towns. Digitories can be used to assassinate characters as well.

    A lot depends on what attributes the various characters have available to them at the start (mouse over the star in the top right hand corner).

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    Default Re: How do you use your agents?

    Im not sure if this is a bug But on multiplayer co-op campaign i cant seem to use my agents in my territory besides affecting other agents. The deploy agent button is always grayed out. But it allows me to deploy them in other territorys. I dont know why it does that.

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    Default Re: How do you use your agents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmill View Post
    Im not sure if this is a bug But on multiplayer co-op campaign i cant seem to use my agents in my territory besides affecting other agents. The deploy agent button is always grayed out. But it allows me to deploy them in other territorys. I dont know why it does that.
    I have had this also (currently playing MP and this button has NEVER been available for either of the 2 players involved)

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    Default Re: How do you use your agents?

    I've found that champions can boost public order a lot with their 'passive' order where the army stance selection normally is. It works better than dignitaries although it doesn't convert culture. Also, using spies to incite unrest then champions to causea rebellion before harassing the garrison has placed provinces in rebel hands for me to invade when I didn't want war.
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    Default Re: How do you use your agents?

    Can never get "rally slaves" to work with champions. Tried several cities with 3 to 5% slaves, and it goes down to 0.3%, but nothing ever happens (patch 2 beta).

    I seem to just increase the cities public order instead with slaves pop going down. xD

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