Medieval 2 still looks better. I don't have flickering pixels all over my eyes.

[temporaryname1]

Because a lot of us do.

Then you have no right to complaint about the current state of the franchise.
If they focused more on scale,complexity of features,difficulty,tactics and AI then we would have a better game now.
Hell if what CA needs to accomplish this is going back to sprites then I prefer good quality detailed sprites instead of facial animations of individual 3d soldiers.
I think a good example is the portraits,needless resource waste that is inferior to previous 2d portraits.
If you disagree I'm either failing to express my opinion in a clear fashion or you need to go back to call of duty.

[stylepoints]

I too think they needlessly destroyed performance with stuff like facial animations. I'd rather my huge battles run smoothly than be able to see my general's lips move during his 8 second speech.

[Riekopo]

I too think they needlessly destroyed performance with stuff like facial animations. I'd rather my huge battles run smoothly than be able to see my general's lips move during his 8 second speech.

They have tongues and teeth too.

[Lancor]

First world problems... who cares about this, really?
A well done game doesn't the best uber ultra ssj3fxssa monster filter bluuuurp.... I would totally enjoy even Rome 1 graphics (which mods really polished up), as long as the gameplay is nice.

Rome 2 looks good, and the engine got some real flaws. The FPS is the main issue for sure, but the rest? Please, that's not really important in the end. When your mind is engaged, you have to play against a strong enemy, react and need to think you barely have any time to wonder about graphics anyway.

Now imagine if instead of adding facial animations/1v1 combat animations , extra polygons on soldiers , they would instead invest into a huge battles. 40.000 vs 40.000 battles with unit visuals comparable to M2TW , just with some new bells and whistles and units would hold perfect formations. My dream....forever lost....

Yeah THAT IS what I wondered about too the last days... REAL UNIT numbers, would be way better. Of course settlements would have to be bigger too. I don't care if they copy/paste some buildings for that to be happen. But it would be way better than what we have.
The graphical improvements since MTW2 weren't that great. They could easily have made this step... but oh well, we need shiny console fps graphics for our STRATEGY games... yeah!

[Broly]

while i still play medieval 2 stainless steel i like how rome 2 looks ati drivers gave a huge fps boost for me and i can play it mosltly maxed out an i think it looks decent... my problem with it is iv never had a battle last longer then what feels like 5 minutes no point zooming in on anything because by the time i see something cool its over... Medieval 2 iv had battles go for 30minutes to an hour now if they are making battles Tons faster due to a console port an to open it up to more people well thats just bs

[T-Duke]

We have almost the same unit settings size from Rome I... different engines but poor "evolution". it'so simply guys, you want great graphics? they give you much more tiny soldiers every chapter so when you zoom out you no longer control an army of soldier, you are leading an army of ants. That's why we have colors blob mass effect, it's the only way to distinguish factions...

[SonOfCrusader76]

I'd love a Rome game with MTW2's engine; I'm disappointed and surprised that EBII is still not out.

[randir14]

I'd love a Rome game with MTW2's engine; I'm disappointed and surprised that EBII is still not out.

Have you looked at De Bello Mundi? http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...lo-Mundi-(DBM)

[SonOfCrusader76]

Have you looked at De Bello Mundi? http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...lo-Mundi-(DBM)

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You've made my day, man! It appears to be at version 1 now, so that's out of beta?

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[absinthia]

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You've made my day, man! It appears to be at version 1 now, so that's out of beta?

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De Bello Mundi, excellent.
super realistic historically accurate Briton trousers. think i recognized some shields as well...

[bangell99]

I almost forgot how good M2TW still looks. I think I'll reinstall it.

[bushranger]

GFX wise Rome 2 is probably the most impressive game out there.I play it off a gtx780 and it looks massive and detailed,but with a few bugs.Lets be honest the game was released a little bit to early so there's a few things to be done but out of any complaints i have for this game gfx is not one of them.

[leo.civil.uefs]

Medieval 2 is really epic, its graphics are still impressive after all these years and when you get some mods to improve them you could easly be fooled about its release date.
When you zoom out, it looks far better than rome 2, its true.
Also, the 3d deepness in medieval 2 is far better than in rome 2. When you look at rome 2, specially zoomed out, everythign looks plain, no deepness, it looks like a light painting or something, no susbtance.
Its a good game anyway, i dont agreed with many people here, would give rome 2 a 7.0.

[A Barbarian]

@Ramesses II The Great
- Get an in-game FPS display and GPU utilization display like MSI-Afterburner
- Set all to extreme + 'unlimited video memory'
- Load a large battle
- Let the battle lines clash
- Move camera to lowest bottom position at one end of a battle line and point it towards the other end of the battle line
- Now watch your FPS, they will be around 20-25fps, lol. If you now alt-tab to Afterburner you will see that your 7990 has barely any load (maybe 40%)

So, Rome 2 absolutely can't be played fluidly even with a high end rig because it's CPU limited in battles.

Btw, your 7990 functions like one GPU with 3GB VRAM and not one with 6GB VRAM since each of the 2 GPU cores in the 7990 needs it's own copy of all the textures and other data in VRAM (2x3GB = 6GB).

[Point Blank]

M2TW visuals stand up well against R2TW. They are crisp, clean and with some good modding (eg Rusichi mod) are very close if not better. The engine in M2TW is also far more accessible to modders (so far anyway).

[Lord of Lost Socks]

I'm guessing I'm one of the lucky few with bugged graphics, this is my Rome 2 on Ultra:

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And Napoleon on the other hand runs one hundred times better no matter how many troops I show in the screen. This battle ran silky smooth earlier today:

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[xeronak]

And I just want to add that what constitutes acceptable graphical settings for some is not the same thing for others. For me it's inexcusable that this game looks worse and runs worse than Shogun 2 on it's ultra preset. People advising to lower quality to high and under should probably take a step back and see that at this level of settings the game IS a blurry, jaggy, terrible looking mess and that yes Rome 1 with mods and Medieval 2 looks better and runs better than Rome 2 on medium-high.

[agent 47]

I thought the same and i still think medieval looks better than vanilla. I am really liking the gem shaders with smaa though, I'm actually being impressed by the graphics now.

Some pics ( I added some luma sharpen in sweetx.

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This one is pretty aliased, i cant get msaa working through the prefs ( It works apparently) but at least it has definition. You can get smoother edges with luma sharpen off because luma sharpen sharpens the smaa anti aliasing after it has been applied. Overall i prefer the sharper image though, with no luma sharpen nothing sticks out

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[A Barbarian]

This one is pretty aliased, i cant get msaa working through the prefs ( It works apparently)

That's a myth! I looked into the binary files and while the Shogun2.dll has lots of MSAA references everything has been wiped from the current Rome2.dll.

With the current emphasis on bugs and performance I guess we can wait a long time (if not forever) until we get proper MSAA support.

[mhz1000a]

i don;t like Rome 2 too.
same pc play the game
here pic

Medieval II Total War

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more mod


more?

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Shogun2

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and Rome 2

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