Splenyi's Project - Realistic Names (v1.0 Released 15/04/2015)

[Biggus Splenus]

3rd post in a row.....

BETA RELEASE GUYS!

I just wanted to give you guys an opportunity to test what these names are like in game I've only done what is on the OP, so that's all Hellenic units (except Baktria, which I'm working on), Thracians, Dacians, Illyrians, Egyptian, Ethiopian, Nubian, Carian, and most Roman units (not Auxilia though)... I think that's it.

Please criticize harshly

PS. There were 5 (!!!!!) different Dacian spearmen units to name, and i kind of ran out of ideas. In order of elite, it goes; Dakes Epistratoi Doryphoroi, Dakes Doryphoroi, Dakes Epilektoi Doryphoroi, Dakes Thorakitai Doryphoroi, Dakes Aristoi Doryphoroi. Feel free to improve on that

[♠ Thomas Cochrane ♠]

While that's not the goal of this mod, I can easily expand into that area once this is done. But first, unit names

I was going to create my own thread about this, but since it's been brought up here, I'll mention it here.
I'd like to see All Roman armies be numbered as the norm, and then further names can be given to them afterwards. For non professional armies, I'd like to see the name of the army just reflect the name of the general (e.g. "Biggus Dikkus' Army"), unless it's the faction leader's army, in which case it could say "Royal Pargamese Army" or something to that effect.
If the game can't be made to recognise the general and then name the army as such, it could just be called Suebian Tribal Army or something.

If the system is similar to the regimental naming system of ETW/NTW then you could even chuck in a few surpirse "Odysseus' Wanderers" in there too to come up randomly to give the AI factions SOME flavour.

[♠ Thomas Cochrane ♠]

^ Don't approve of Greek names for Dacians. May as well have english. Latin even

[Biggus Splenus]

^ Don't approve of Greek names for Dacians. May as well have english. Latin even

How come? And why would you be fine with Greek Ethiopian, Illryrian and Thracian names?

[justme]

Massive thanks once again I'm running out of stuff to ask you

Last 2 Hellenic units that I've still got no clue on is;

Giant Ballista
Heavy Onager

I just need a word to describe heavy artillery. I'll just use the 1 adjective for both. What would you suggest?

sorry... as I said, I can't really help with artillery. The adjectives you are looking for are "Megas/Megalh" (meaning big/gigantic) and "Barus/Bareia" (meaning heavy) [I'm giving male and female versions here], but as I said, I'm not sure how appropriate they would be to describe and engine for which I have no appropriate name to give...

As for the Dacian units using greek names (for now), I think that even in EB they have (some) units using greek names. In any case, until you get a Dacian-speaker to translate the names, one will have to compromise with some other language.

As far as the greek names you've given the spearmen units are concerned, I think they're just fine...

Finally, what do you need for the romans (or latin-named units)? I might be able to help there too...

[Aram Kurdo]

PFFF !!! U call this renaming while Eastern Factions have not been renamed!! all the world wasnt Rome & Greece !! (at least u could see Europa Barbarorum) !!

[justme]

PFFF !!! U call this renaming while Eastern Factions have not been renamed!! all the world wasnt Rome & Greece !! (at least u could see Europa Barbarorum) !!

I don't know how far splenyi will go with the renaming project, but this is still a wip and I suppose he's starting from the "easy" factions (the romans and the greeks). So be patient and wait... even Rome wasn't built in a day; I'm sure more languages will crop up soon (I saw someone volunteer for renaming gallic units). Even better - if you speak persian and/or arabic you can help splenyi with renaming the eastern units the sooner.

[Biggus Splenus]

Thanks for offering help AGAIN justme

- I'm looking for a similar word from the Greek artillery; Giant/Heavy
- Bodyguard
- War Dogs
- Not sure how to name the Praetorians, there's 2 units; Praetorians and Praetorian Guard. Realistically they were the same thing, so I'm a bit stuck.

That's it for the base Roman army, but then I have a heap of Auxilia to do:

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Aux

• Afr
  
  • Auxiliary Sabean Archers >
  • Auxiliary Sabean Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary African Elephants >
  • Auxiliary Sabean Spearmen >
  
  
• Ara
  
  • Auxiliary Camel Archers >
  • Auxiliary Camel Spearmen >
  • Auxiliary Arabian Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Arabian Spearmen >
  
  
• Bac
  
  • Auxiliary Bactrian Hillmen >
  • Auxiliary Bactrian Light Horse >
  
  
• Bri
  
  • Auxiliary Briton Scout Riders >
  • Auxiliary Briton Slingers >
  • Auxiliary Spear Band >
  
  
• Cel
  
  • Auxiliary Axe Warriors >
  • Auxiliary Celtic Light Horse >
  • Auxiliary Celtic Skirmishers >
  • Auxiliary Celtic Warriors >
  
  
• Dac
  
  • Auxiliary Dacian Bowmen >
  • Auxiliary Spear Horsemen >
  • Auxiliary Dacian Spears >
  
  
• Eas
  
  • Auxiliary Cappadocian Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Hillmen >
  • Auxiliary Eastern Javelinmen >
  • Auxiliary Horse Skirmishers >
  
  
• Egy
  
  • Auxiliary Egyptian Archers >
  • Auxiliary Egyptian Infantry >
  
  
• Gal
  
  • Auxiliary Gallic Light Horse >
  • Auxiliary Gallic Warriors >
  
  
• Ger
  
  • Auxiliary Longbow Hunters >
  • Auxiliary Germanic Scout Riders >
  • Auxiliary Spear Brothers >
  
  
• Gre
  
  • Auxiliary Citizen Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Cretan Archers >
  • Auxiliary Hoplites >
  • Auxiliary Peltasts >
  • Auxiliary Rhodian Slingers >
  • Auxiliary Tarantine Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Thureos Spears >
  
  
• Ibe
  
  • Auxiliary Balearic Slingers >
  • Auxiliary Cantabrian Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Iberian Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Iberian Slingers >
  • Auxiliary Iberian Swordsmen >
  
  
• Ill
  
  • Auxiliary Illyrian Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Coastal Levies >
  
  
• Ind
  
  • Auxiliary Indian War Elephants >
  
  
• Ita
  
  • Socii Equites >
  • Socii Equites Extraordinarii >
  • Socii Extraordinarii >
  • Socii Hastati >
  
  
• Num
  
  • Auxiliary Numidian Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Numidian Javelinmen >
  
  
• Par
  
  • Auxiliary Parthian Horse Archers >
  • Auxiliary Parthian Spearmen >
  
  
• Per
  
  • Auxiliary Persian Archers >
  • Auxiliary Persian Cavalry >
  
  
• Sar
  
  • Auxiliary Sarmatian Horse Archers >
  • Auxiliary Sarmatian Lancers >
  
  
• Scy
  
  • Auxiliary Scythian Horse Archers >
  
  
• Syrian
  
  • Auxiliary Syrian Archers >
  
  
• Thr
  
  • Auxiliary Thracian Cavalry >
  • Auxiliary Thracian Peltasts >
  
  
• Other
  
  • Auxiliary Cavalry
  • Auxiliary Infantry

Perhaps you could have a look through those name and see what you can do?

PFFF !!! U call this renaming while Eastern Factions have not been renamed!! all the world wasnt Rome & Greece !! (at least u could see Europa Barbarorum) !!

You here to offer translation, or whine?

I'd be glad to translate the Eastern units too, but I haven't found anyone to do it.

[Aram Kurdo]

Thanks for offering help AGAIN justme Perhaps you could have a look through those name and see what you can do? You here to offer translation, or whine? I'd be glad to translate the Eastern units too, but I haven't found anyone to do it.

im so Sorry JUST ME & SPENEYI for my style of complaining, u know i meant generaly, all the western people only care about Ancient Greece & Rome, ( and Egypt because they cant deny it or they would!) and doesnt know there were greater civilizations In MEZOPOTAMIA & Iranian Plateau. and Dear JUST ME, I'm A KURD and Know Persian, but we Iranian (Persian, Kurds, Lurds, Baluchis, Afghans & Tajiks ....) are NOT ARABS !!! and im not religious so i dont know Arabic. but Dear Spleneyi, why u dont see Europa Barbarorum?!! in There all Cultures have been written in their own Native Name! BTW, im at your service, but just one question, u want me their modern native name or Ancient?!

[justme]

AAArrgghh!!! I just posted a lengthy reply and the forum just ate it! So here I go again - this time with fewer explanations (to save time).

First @KurdishSpartakus
Don't worry - I wasn't offended or anything. And I know you're not an arab... I just thought that you might know some arabic (esp. if you live in Iraq or Syria - I can't see your location). But maybe you can help with the persian terms... I know a few from EB and IB:SAI, but I'm hardly an expert (all those gund's and selabgandan's and thanvare's just mystified me).
Now for the translations.

Giant/Heavy = Magnus/Magna which translates to big/great... I don't have a word for giant and I want to find a better word for heavy than the one I'm thinking of now.
Bodyguard= (when talking about its members) Custodes Corporis or (when talking about the organization) Custodia Corporis. In later times these were known as Custodes (Sacri) Lateris AFAIR.
War Dogs = Canes Bellici (the closest thing I can get)

Now for the Auxiliary units, but first a note or two: the general rule for naming auxiliary regiments of the roman army was "regiment of 'soldier type' of 'soldier nationality/origin'", which doesn't translate literally into the english form of the unit names below (for one thing the term "Auxiliary" becomes redundant, since mentioning a nationality/origin for the soldiers/regiment immediately implied they were Auxiliaries and not roman Legions). I'm going to use the historical version and NOT the literal version. Also, many of the units below just didn't apply in the antiquity, so I'm really improvising names that "sound" original - but the ancients would struggle to understand what I'm talking about.
Another note: Ala=Wing/Squadron, Cohors="regiment"
Afr
Auxiliary Sabean Archers > Cohors Sagittariorum Sabaeorum
Auxiliary Sabean Cavalry > Ala Equitum Sabaeorum
Auxiliary African Elephants > Elephantes Africani (an elephant isn't an auxiliary - a man is an auxiliary! at least in Latin!)
Auxiliary Sabean Spearmen > Cohors Lanciariorum Sabaeorum (even though lancea=lance, hasta=spear, I won't call them hastati, since they were known as lanciarii in those days)

Ara
Auxiliary Camel Archers > Ala Sagittariorum Dromedariorum
Auxiliary Camel Spearmen > Ala Lanciariorum Dromedariorum
Auxiliary Arabian Cavalry > Ala Equitum Arabum
Auxiliary Arabian Spearmen > Cohors Lanciariorum Arabum

Bac
Auxiliary Bactrian Hillmen > no idea what hillmen were called in latin - a hill is a collis, so hillmen could be literally translated into incolae collinum (hill-dwellers), but that doesn't sound right for a military unit or a horde of tribal savages from the hills/mountains
Auxiliary Bactrian Light Horse > Ala Equitum Levum Bactriorum

Bri
Auxiliary Briton Scout Riders > Ala Equitum Exploratorum Britonum
Auxiliary Briton Slingers > Cohors Funditorum Britonum
Auxiliary Spear Band > Turma Lanciariorum Auxiliarum (Turma=band in late latin)

Cel
Auxiliary Axe Warriors > Cohors Securigerum Bellatorum
Auxiliary Celtic Light Horse > Ala Equitum Levum Celtarum
Auxiliary Celtic Skirmishers > Cohors Iaculatorum (or Velitum or Levum) Celtarum
Auxiliary Celtic Warriors > Cohors Bellatorum Celtarum

Dac
Auxiliary Dacian Bowmen > Cohors Sagittariorum Dacum
Auxiliary Spear Horsemen > Ala Lanciariorum Equitum
Auxiliary Dacian Spears > Cohors Lanciariorum Dacum

Eas
Auxiliary Cappadocian Cavalry > Ala Equitum Cappadocum
Auxiliary Hillmen > see above
Auxiliary Eastern Javelinmen > Cohors Velitum (or Iaculatorum or Levum) Orientalium
Auxiliary Horse Skirmishers > Ala Iaculatorum Equitum

Egy
Auxiliary Egyptian Archers > Cohors Sagittariorum Aegyptiorum
Auxiliary Egyptian Infantry > Cohors Peditum Aegyptiorum

Gal
Auxiliary Gallic Light Horse > Ala Equitum Levum Gallorum
Auxiliary Gallic Warriors > Cohors Bellatorum Gallorum

Ger
Auxiliary Longbow Hunters > Cohors Venatorum Sagittariorum (longbow=arcus longa, but it doesn't fit here)
Auxiliary Germanic Scout Riders > Ala Equitum Exploratorum Germanorum
Auxiliary Spear Brothers > Cohors Fratrum Lanciariorum (???? what are these????)

Gre
Auxiliary Citizen Cavalry > Ala Equitum Civitum
Auxiliary Cretan Archers > Cohors Sagittariorum Cretensium
Auxiliary Hoplites > Cohors Hoplitarum
Auxiliary Peltasts > Cohors Peltastarum
Auxiliary Rhodian Slingers > Cohors Funditorum Rodiorum
Auxiliary Tarantine Cavalry > Ala Equitum Tarantinorum
Auxiliary Thureos Spears > Cohors Lanciariorum Scutariorum (or Thyreophoriorum)

Ibe
Auxiliary Balearic Slingers > Cohors Funditorum Balearum
Auxiliary Cantabrian Cavalry > Ala Equitum Cantabriorum
Auxiliary Iberian Cavalry > Ala Equitum Iberorum
Auxiliary Iberian Slingers > Cohors Funditorum Iberorum
Auxiliary Iberian Swordsmen > Cohors Ensiferorum Iberorum

Ill
Auxiliary Illyrian Cavalry > Ala Equitum Illyriorum
Auxiliary Coastal Levies > ... I know the words but to mix them up to make a unit name sounds absurd to me - coast=litus, levy=legio or diletus, to say Auxiliares Dilecti Litoris sounds ridiculous to me - I mean, if I were to say something like that, the ancients would understand the words, but they'd be stumped as to what the hell I'm referring to!

Ind
Auxiliary Indian War Elephants > Elephantes Indici (same as above)

Ita
Socii Equites > Ala Equitum Sociorum or Equites Socii
Socii Equites Extraordinarii > Ala Equitum Extraordinariorum or Equites Extraordinarii
Socii Extraordinarii > Cohors Sociorum Extraordinariorum or leave as is
Socii Hastati > Cohors Sociorum Hastatorum or leave as is


Num
Auxiliary Numidian Cavalry > Ala Equitum Numidarum
Auxiliary Numidian Javelinmen > Cohors Velitum (or Iaculatorum or Levum) Numidarum

Par
Auxiliary Parthian Horse Archers > Ala Equitum Sagittariorum Parthorum
Auxiliary Parthian Spearmen > Cohors Lanciariorum Parthorum

Per
Auxiliary Persian Archers > Cohors Sagittariorum Persarum
Auxiliary Persian Cavalry > Ala Equitum Persarum

Sar
Auxiliary Sarmatian Horse Archers > Ala Equitum Sagittariorum Sarmatarum
Auxiliary Sarmatian Lancers > Ala Lanciariorum Equitum Sarmatarum

Scy
Auxiliary Scythian Horse Archers > Ala Equitum Sagittariorum Scytharum

Syrian
Auxiliary Syrian Archers > Cohors Sagittariorum Syriorum

Thr
Auxiliary Thracian Cavalry > Ala Equitum Thracum
Auxiliary Thracian Peltasts > Cohors Peltastarum Thracum

Other
Auxiliary Cavalry - Equites Auxiliares
Auxiliary Infantry - Pedites Auxiliares

Hope that all this helps...

[TheFra]

Cheers for the Mod, I really appreciate the effort and this will make a big difference for me.

Do you plan, or know if its possible, to change the encyclopedia text as well? The files look like static HTML on disk but I've tried changing them with no success. Not sure if the pages are cached by the game or the text is loaded from the DB.

[DanLatt]

This is a great idea, I don't post often but I've got a little bit of input.

How about naming the Roman Plebs to 'Capite censi'? This literally means the head count in Latin, and was the name given to people who did not own land, this I feel is exactly what the Plebs are in this game. The last men available to defend the city.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capite_censi

[andymate]

This is brilliant can't wait until it is finished!

[Col. Tartleton]

On one hand the game is centered on Rome and thus Latin makes sense for the default. On the other hand Koine would be more historically accurate since even the Romans often spoke Koine when communicating with foreigners and slaves, etc. Given the breadth of Hellenism from Hispania to India it's the obvious language which seems to be the plan from what's done so far.

[Biggus Splenus]

@ justme - thanks a heap I might overt "Cohors" and "Ala", just because it seems repetitive, and we didn't put unit size names on the Hellenic units No I wont. I also noticed you made both nationality and troop type in singular form, is it because of the "Cohors" and "Ala" title that they're singular, because I think that's what I've noticed?

but Dear Spleneyi, why u dont see Europa Barbarorum?!! in There all Cultures have been written in their own Native Name!

A few, but not most. Most use Greek.

BTW, im at your service, but just one question, u want me their modern native name or Ancient?

Ancient of course

Do you plan, or know if its possible, to change the encyclopedia text as well? The files look like static HTML on disk but I've tried changing them with no success. Not sure if the pages are cached by the game or the text is loaded from the DB.

My initial plan was to leave the Encyclopedia alone, so that people who are confused about the name and what the unit might be, can check it in the encyclopedia for what it was originally (in vanilla).

How about naming the Roman Plebs to 'Capite censi'? This literally means the head count in Latin, and was the name given to people who did not own land, this I feel is exactly what the Plebs are in this game. The last men available to defend the city.

That's a nice idea or I might just call them "mod", because it won't make sense in a non-Roman city.

On one hand the game is centered on Rome and thus Latin makes sense for the default. On the other hand Koine would be more historically accurate since even the Romans often spoke Koine when communicating with foreigners and slaves, etc. Given the breadth of Hellenism from Hispania to India it's the obvious language which seems to be the plan from what's done so far.

Yep, most factions units will be in Greek if their ancient language isn't around any more. A handful will be in Latin (Roman, Roman Auxilia, Italian, and maybe Iberian, not sure yet). I'm just hoping we can get some people to translate the other factions.

[Aram Kurdo]

@ justme - thanks a heap I might overt "Cohors" and "Ala", just because it seems repetitive, and we didn't put unit size names on the Hellenic units . I also noticed you made both nationality and troop type in singular form, aren't they usually in plural? Or is it because of the "Cohors" and "Ala" title that they're singular?


A few, but not most. Most use Greek.

Ancient of course

well i said for ancient, because i can easily say the Native but its Modern Name. The Ancient Ones are truly Hard to Find.
but you could both post in here and in my private profile for those names of units im at your serivice dear Spleneyi!!
(Because i might dont come in here, my profile is better)

[Biggus Splenus]

Thanks, I'm just sorting some stuff out, so we'll get started sometime soon. We should do it on this thread too, just so it's easier for me to track, and everyone can see how we came up with the name we're using in the mod. Please subscribe to the thread, then you won't need to worry about loosing it
EDIT: Thought I would reply to some of your stuff justme;

Auxiliary Longbow Hunters > Cohors Venatorum Sagittariorum (longbow=arcus longa, but it doesn't fit here)
Auxiliary Germanic Scout Riders > Ala Equitum Exploratorum Germanorum
Auxiliary Spear Brothers > Cohors Fratrum Lanciariorum (???? what are these????)

All those are Germanic troops So the Spear Brothers will probably be Cohors Lanciariorum Germanorum.

Auxiliary Citizen Cavalry > Ala Equitum Civitum
Auxiliary Cretan Archers > Cohors Sagittariorum Cretensium
Auxiliary Hoplites > Cohors Hoplitarum
Auxiliary Peltasts > Cohors Peltastarum
Auxiliary Rhodian Slingers > Cohors Funditorum Rodiorum
Auxiliary Tarantine Cavalry > Ala Equitum Tarantinorum
Auxiliary Thureos Spears > Cohors Lanciariorum Scutariorum (or Thyreophoriorum)

Would you be able to tell me what the Romans called Greek people? sing. and pl. Was it Graecum and Graeci, respectively?

Auxiliary Coastal Levies > ... I know the words but to mix them up to make a unit name sounds absurd to me - coast=litus, levy=legio or diletus, to say Auxiliares Dilecti Litoris sounds ridiculous to me - I mean, if I were to say something like that, the ancients would understand the words, but they'd be stumped as to what the hell I'm referring to!

perhaps just Cohors Dilectus Illyriorum then?

Thanks again for all your help

And 3 last things for now; how would you say Praetorian Guard? And Syrian Archers in Greek (I think they should be in Greek language, that area was dominated by Greeks, do you agree?) And Armoured in Latin (as in, Armoured Legionaries)?

I feel we are coming close to a 0.2 release

[DanLatt]

That's a nice idea or I might just call them "mod", because it won't make sense in a non-Roman city.

Fair enough. Do kind of think any landless mob could be referred to as that though

[justme]

ok... let's address all these points one by one

a) nationality and troop type in singular form
Actually ...no; that isn't a singular form, it's plural - in all cases the translation is (one) "regiment type" of (many) "troop type" of (many) "region/country nationals".
Don't confuse the singular neuter gender nominative case -um suffix with the plural genitive case -orum/arum or -um suffix (it depends on declension categories, eg first declension nouns use -us/-a/-um for nominative singular, -orum/-arum/-orum for genitive plural in masculine/feminine/neuter genders)

b) mob=(lat) Vulgus=(gr) Okhlos... I think it's a better word to use, since it certainly fits the "disorderly masses" that the mob unit is supposed to reflect

c) Cohors Lanciariorum Germanorum - ok, it works for me
d) what the Romans called Greek people - one male Graecus, one female Graeca, one thing (neuter) Graecum (see above, for first declension nouns). Many male Graeci, many female Graecae, many things (neuter) Graeca

e) Cohors Dilectus Illyriorum - wrong case (remember the rule for greek? adjectives, nouns, pronouns, etc have to agree for number, case, gender? it applies to latin as well!) and still wouldn't make much sense to a Roman...
anyway, it would read Cohors Dilecti Illyriorum (a regiment of a levy of Illyrians) or it could also be Cohors Dilectorum Illyriorum (a regiment of *levied* of Illyrians)... problem is that Dilectus when referring to persons usually meant something like "beloved" or "most dear"... so that latter option would also translate to a regiment of the most dear among the Illyrians... utterly ridiculous!!!

f) Praetorian Guard - in greek? or in latin? In greek it would be (litteraly) Praitorianη Froura and Praetorian Guards would be Praitorianoi Frouroi. In latin it is Custodia Praetoriana and Custodes Praetoriani (or plain Praetoriani) respectively. The term Custodia/Custodes Praetorii was also used AFAIR (guard of the praetorium).
g) Syrian Archers in greek - Syroi Toxotai
h) Armored in latin - simple: Armati or Loricati; the latter is more accurate, the former (litterally armed) I think was used mostly in late latin/middle ages, but was current in imperial vulgar latin too

[Biggus Splenus]

a) nationality and troop type in singular form

ok thanks learning so much here

b) mob=(lat) Vulgus=(gr) Okhlos...

Done and dusted.

d) what the Romans called Greek people - one male Graecus, one female Graeca, one thing (neuter) Graecum (see above, for first declension nouns). Many male Graeci, many female Graecae, many things (neuter) Graeca

perhaps I haven't learned enough to apply it myself yet do I want Graecum (eg. Hoplitarum Graecum)?

e) Cohors Dilectus Illyriorum - wrong case (remember the rule for greek? adjectives, nouns, pronouns, etc have to agree for number, case, gender? it applies to latin as well!) and still wouldn't make much sense to a Roman...anyway, it would read Cohors Dilecti Illyriorum (a regiment of a levy of Illyrians) or it could also be Cohors Dilectorum Illyriorum (a regiment of *levied* of Illyrians)... problem is that Dilectus when referring to persons usually meant something like "beloved" or "most dear"... so that latter option would also translate to a regiment of the most dear among the Illyrians... utterly ridiculous!!!

Well indeed that is ridiculous perhaps Pedites instead then, until we (you )come up with something better?

f) Praetorian Guard - in greek? or in latin? In greek it would be (litteraly) Praitorianη Froura and Praetorian Guards would be Praitorianoi Frouroi. In latin it is Custodia Praetoriana and Custodes Praetoriani (or plain Praetoriani) respectively. The term Custodia/Custodes Praetorii was also used AFAIR (guard of the praetorium).

I did mean Latin yes, sorry. Thanks, I was going to use Praetoriani, but there's 2 Praetorian units (Praetorians, and Praetorian Guard). Silly design choice, historically the same thing, but it's CA.

g) Syrian Archers in greek - Syroi Toxotai

h) Armored in latin - simple: Armati or Loricati; the latter is more accurate, the former (litterally armed) I think was used mostly in late latin/middle ages, but was current in imperial vulgar latin too

Cheers Just a few more things for the Italians in Latin; Nobles (eg. Noble Cavalry), Mercenary (eg. Mercenary Spearmen) and Italian (nationality, eg. Italian Spearmen).