How to Double Unit Sizes.

**Mephalamos** · September 04, 2013, 10:03 PM

I do not take credit for this, it was posted in the official TW forums -- here is the link. http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...ight=unit+size

Anyway,

- Using SFEditor 1.0.7, open a save, I recommend you backup the save before editing.

- Tab through compressed_data/campaign_env/campaign_setup/campaign_setup_options

- Change the 2nd number from 1 to 2

Now, all of your newly recruited troops should have twice the number of men in them. For instance, a unit of hoplites will contained 320 men, rather than 160.

**-=PHX=-Hades** · September 04, 2013, 10:26 PM

Works. Thanks for the find.

**Sharpe** · September 04, 2013, 10:30 PM

Promising, I will get round to trying this for sure.

Any ideas on a full multiplier? Garrisons and all without editing your save game - just as a one time edit?

**TotalDC** · September 04, 2013, 10:32 PM

Set file to read only?

**NogaOsibisa** · September 04, 2013, 10:46 PM

How is pathfinding with 2x multi?

**Mephalamos** · September 04, 2013, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by NogaOsibisa

How is pathfinding with 2x multi?

I've only done a few land battles so far, but it seems to be identical to vanilla.

**NogaOsibisa** · September 04, 2013, 11:04 PM

Ok, cool. Then a garrison multiplier would probably work, too, in theory at least. It still breaks naval combat somehow. It would be interesting to know whether using multiplier influences replenish rates.

**Dominian** · September 04, 2013, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Mephalamos

I've only done a few land battles so far, but it seems to be identical to vanilla.

So it is horrible

But seriously +rep and all that. Good find. It's not like I need more units to chip away on the performance but larger units might lead to longer fights!

**NogaOsibisa** · September 04, 2013, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Dominian

... but larger units might lead to longer fights!

... if javelins are trimmed, supposedly.*

*I mean slower reload rates and fewer in the quivers.

**crackerjack1348** · September 04, 2013, 11:30 PM

How does this affect the ships? Can they hold the double sized units?

**Mephalamos** · September 04, 2013, 11:38 PM

Haven't done a navy battle with it yet, but if Shogun 2 is any indication, the navy crew will just be more 'crunched up' on the ships.

**NogaOsibisa** · September 04, 2013, 11:58 PM

The actual solution is said to increase the number of troop ships (not navy ships) by the number used for the unit multiplier.*

*I haven't tested it for I am still waiting for royal mail.

**crackerjack1348** · September 05, 2013, 12:10 AM

It works! Doubles the size of newly recruited ships as well. The double units get 2 ships which are loosely linked together. You can't order them individually, but it's not too janky or anything. Garrison forces stay vanilla sized though. Thanks so much for finding this!!!!

I had to mess with the SF editor a bit because it didn't save the first time. I forgot that its a bit wonky to use.

**NogaOsibisa** · September 05, 2013, 12:14 AM

Does loosly linked together mean they react similtaneously?

**crackerjack1348** · September 05, 2013, 12:21 AM

Yes. The only issue i've seen so far is that they bump into each other if you try to do a 180. Doesn't crash the game or anything, just not as agile as a single ship. It's hard to explain, but it's pretty much fine. I've never seen anything like it in TW before but there are 2 ships that are part of one unit card. Think of a land unit with multiple individuals that respond to one banner's orders. Looks like CA anticipated the unit multipliers being used, so that's good.

**Mephalamos** · September 05, 2013, 12:59 AM

I do not take credit for this, it was posted in the official TW forums -- here is the link. http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...ight=unit+size

Anyway,

- Using SFEditor 1.0.7, open a save, I recommend you backup the save before editing.

- Tab through compressed_data/campaign_env/campaign_setup/campaign_setup_options

- Change the 2nd number from 1 to 2

Now, all of your newly recruited troops should have twice the number of men in them. For instance, a unit of hoplites will contained 320 men, rather than 160.

It will also double the number of ships in a given ship-unit. So instead of 2 biremes, you get two. They work fine together, so no fears. Appears CA anticipated this, or had planned on having multiple ships per unit during development.