Q for ONLY experienced TW players and long time TW fans

[chopa2010]

must say Im so confused with this forum and reviews

Im passionate TW player, played all TW series in hundreds of hours, except Shogun 1 and 2 (couldnt really get it on Japanese history and culture, although played S2TW a decent time)

so I please ask for ONLY experienced players, IS R2TW worth buying? Im afraid I would get disappointed like with CIV series (second best after TW, also played all editions from CIV1 till CIV5), cause I have feeling that all those good strategy games are leaning to casual gamers, getting too childish and arcadey as series evolve



thank You so much in advance for answering my question and concern

[Wittman]

Is it worth buying?Nope,not now,buy it after 2-3 monhts of heavy patching,balancing,fixing and optimazing + mods.
But if your looking for true tw game dont buy it ever,now its just a random strategy game not tw.

[Niccolo Machiavelli]

Is it worth buying?Nope,not now,buy it after 2-3 monhts of heavy patching,balancing,fixing and optimazing + mods.
But if your looking for true tw game dont buy it ever,now its just a random strategy game not tw.

It's a true TW game - every TW game has been horribly bugged at release, and R2TW is even one of the smoother ones except maybe MTW1 and S2TW. A TW game without bugs and a semi-decent AI - now that would be a really untrue TW game.

- The original RTW was so full of bugs and such terrible design flukes, I wont even mention it.
- MTW2 had an inherit advantage for troops fighting uphill because the troops holding higher ground wouldn't hit, 2 handed units never applied their damage because their animations were too slow to ever complete a swing.
- ETW never reached a playable state.

[Caesar_1991]

Is it worth buying?Nope,not now,buy it after 2-3 monhts of heavy patching,balancing,fixing and optimazing + mods.
But if your looking for true tw game dont buy it ever,now its just a random strategy game not tw.

What pray tell is a tw game then

[Celtichugs123]

Not at the moment. Not unless you wish to pay for a Beta.

[Swerg]

Rome 2 is a consolized mess. If you want a pale imitation of what TW is supposed to be, go ahead and buy it. If you really do consider yourself a longtime TW fan, who appreciates characterization and strategic/tactical depth...No. Just don't.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

must say Im so confused with this forum and reviews

Im passionate TW player, played all TW series in hundreds of hours, except Shogun 1 and 2 (couldnt really get it on Japanese history and culture, although played S2TW a decent time)

so I please ask for ONLY experienced players, IS R2TW worth buying? Im afraid I would get disappointed like with CIV series (second best after TW, also played all editions from CIV1 till CIV5), cause I have feeling that all those good strategy games are leaning to casual gamers, getting too childish and arcadey as series evolve



thank You so much in advance for answering my question and concern

I follow and play the series since STWI
I have every TW game and most of the DLCs and I can say that for me STWII was the peak of their series while RTW II marks the bottom pit level , it seems done with a limited budged half of the one used for STWII , It seems that the dev team is completely different and is like they left design decisions in the hands of a bunch of dudes favouring unhistorical solutions and counterlogical design .
There is no more strategy deepness in the campaign , even the bare minimum that TW usually had is almoust gone and theTactics are now Real time clashes ofmobs fighting around a capture the flag point .. no more TW ...

[The Roman Republic]

I follow and play the series since STWI
I have every TW game and most of the DLCs and I can say that for me STWII was the peak of their series while RTW II marks the bottom pit level , it seems done with a limited budged half of the one used for STWII , It seems that the dev team is completely different and is like they left design decisions in the hands of a bunch of dudes favouring unhistorical solutions and counterlogical design .
There is no more strategy deepness in the campaign , even the bare minimum that TW usually had is almoust gone and theTactics are now Real time clashes ofmobs fighting around a capture the flag point .. no more TW ...

the only reason it was cocked up was that their was no beta or demo before hand, Shogun 2 had a pre demo and I believe alot of data and info was gained from it to improve the game, yet for some unknown reason this wasn't to happen with Rome 2, and so we are paying for a beta which could take a few month for the game to be at it's peak vanilla perfection.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

must say Im so confused with this forum and reviews

Im passionate TW player, played all TW series in hundreds of hours, except Shogun 1 and 2 (couldnt really get it on Japanese history and culture, although played S2TW a decent time)

so I please ask for ONLY experienced players, IS R2TW worth buying? Im afraid I would get disappointed like with CIV series (second best after TW, also played all editions from CIV1 till CIV5), cause I have feeling that all those good strategy games are leaning to casual gamers, getting too childish and arcadey as series evolve



thank You so much in advance for answering my question and concern

I follow and play the series since STWI
I have every TW game and most of the DLCs and I can say that for me STWII was the peak of their series while RTW II marks the bottom pit level , it seems done with a limited budged half of the one used for STWII , It seems that the dev team is completely different and is like they left design decisions in the hands of a bunch of dudes favouring unhistorical solutions and counterlogical design .
There is no more strategy deepness in the campaign , even the bare minimum that TW usually had is almoust gone and theTactics are now Real time clashes ofmobs fighting around a capture the flag point .. no more TW ...

[big_feef]

As a long time TW series player and fan: don't. The game will probably be fun in a couple of months maybe; at the moment it's a disaster. The 'features' don't really cater to anything Total War; it's like they went out of their way to either neuter or completely remove any kind of tactical substance or depth from the game. To me, the game feels like Age of Empires with a strategic map; and not one that caters to any fun strategic play either.

[jtfjtfjtf]

Since the sales/discount are over, just wait until next year (or more) when it's half price bundled with all the extras and there are extended opinions about any changes CA has done or mods that cover deficiencies.

[cherryfunk]

Wait till Christmas. Between patches and mods it should be pretty good by then. Upgrade your PC in the meantime.

[Wittman]

+ the Iceni chariot general looks like a bearded guy in a wheelchair

[craziii]

@op wait for patches then ask this question again. the game is ok, but as a TW vet, the new changes are pretty jarring. if you are a new player, that feeling wouldn't affect you. if tw vet, hold off till you see some huge patches.

[chopa2010]

damn, very quick response, thank You Vets!

seem like a huge disappointment so far, I expected your answers, but didnt expect that is so bad (

now what? try again M2TW SS for 50th time? (havent tried for a few years now)
I got tired a bit from cannons and muskets, hopefully old game design wont repulse me

tnx once again

[saxdude]

Wait till 1.05, like all TW games.

[blackburnite]

As I'm close to 40 and have been a fanatic fan since shogun 1 and modded a lot until Medieval 2 came out, This release just doesn't feel right. It feels severely dumbed down and am floored that they have removed many good mechanics. That been said, its always been chaos when a new TW game gets released ever since Sega took over. It will get better in time

[mrmouth]

Wait till 1.05

So true. Given their one-patch-a-month average that they touted a couple of games back - 5 or 6 months and this game will be complete. And then the mod teams can start with an actual, complete base.

It's midly fun to explore the game and new features and I will fire it up between now and the 17th when GTA5 is released. After that it gets shelved for the holidays and I will revisit it in spring.

[Duncan III]

Have you tried RTR VII mod for Rome? It's awesome- not saying it's perfect but far, far superior to Rome II.

[Sar1n]

Have you tried RTR VII mod for Rome? It's awesome- not saying it's perfect but far, far superior to Rome II.

All the reactions here make me believe that any RTW mod is superior to TWR2. And maybe vanilla RTW too.