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    Default Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    ***UPDATED TUTORIAL***

    This is not moddable into a .pack file and cannot be edited from the startpos file either, so this do it yourself guide is the only way to increase your units/army in campaign games.

    Link below directs you to the post for the unit strength banner fix. Credits go to dmboss for the file. Place the .pack file in your Rome 2/data folder.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14117442

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    First step is downloading this software.

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/packfilemanager/files/EditSF/EditSF%201.0.7.zip/download
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    Once downloaded extract all files to a folder. Open the software EditSF and open your saved game campaign file.

    It can be found here on Windows 8 C:>Users>USERNAME>AppData>Roaming>The Creative Assembly>Rome 2> save_games .

    Once you open the save game file in EditSF navigate to the Campaign_Save_Game>Compressed_Data>Campaign_Env>Campaign_Model subfolder. Under this tab you will see two values labeled 20.

    The top value represents your land unit limits the bottom value represents your naval unit limits. As you can see I've set mine to 40 land and 30 naval.
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    So now when you go in-game your single general will now be able to recruit 40 units as seen below.
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    And finally here it is in battle with all 40 units under one command tab! My army fell under disease waiting to recruit for this thread therefore the half unit sizes.
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    Last edited by Epic28; October 15, 2014 at 11:28 AM.
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    what a clever fellow you are, here have some rep +
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    This site is running terrible right now and the entire formatting of posting is broken. Theres the link for the EditSF software.


    http://sourceforge.net/projects/packfilemanager/files/EditSF/EditSF%201.0.7.zip/download
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    Good job man.

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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    So how to increase unit size? I want to play with units between 240 and 420 men.

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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcani 4 Ever View Post
    So how to increase unit size? I want to play with units between 240 and 420 men.
    From your save game file in SFEdit navigate to this folder..

    Campaign_Save_Game>Compressed_Data>Campaign_Env>Campaign_setup/Campaign_setup_options

    The second column down has a value listed as 1. This is the multiplier. So editing that value to 2 will double the standard unit size from 160 to 320 men per unit.
    Last edited by Epic28; September 06, 2013 at 11:07 PM.
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    when i click on the campaign env folder only a true and false value shows up there is nothing like the pic you posted

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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    Well I'll be damned!

    Question is can the AI be modified to build this many units per general???

    This is soooooo much better than modifying unit numbers. Its easier for the pathfinding to control 40 units instead of 20 units with 240 each.

    Good on you mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osseon View Post
    Well I'll be damned!

    Question is can the AI be modified to build this many units per general???
    Well, in ETW, NTW and S2TW the AI did without any problem, so I guess yes. This method is tried and tested for years and it works. In NTW some guys used it with 80 units/army without any problem... except the strain on the PC to have 160 units in a battle.
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Well, in ETW, NTW and S2TW the AI did without any problem, so I guess yes. This method is tried and tested for years and it works. In NTW some guys used it with 80 units/army without any problem... except the strain on the PC to have 160 units in a battle.
    From what is being posted in this thread it seems like 40 units isn't possible. 35 max. Once Rome 2 is fully done with this often patching I'll get back into this game and try to find out what the cause is behind the limitations (if true).

    Please if anyone is successfully playing 30+ turns with 40 units/army post your results here.
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    Quote Originally Posted by Osseon View Post
    Well I'll be damned!

    Question is can the AI be modified to build this many units per general???
    Yes, we've been doing that since ETW and it works perfectly.
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    awesome!
    Good going CA, you really must be proud of your hard work.....

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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    @ryanc522
    Sorry it should be under Campaign_Model not Campaign_Env. Fixed the location in OP.

    @Osseon
    Yes, this will modified the AI's unit limit per army as well. Unfortunately I cannot say what issues this may present late in campaign gameplay. Hopefully 40v40 battles between only two armies!
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    I've noticed that the unit flag on the campaign map completely fills up the faction emblem. Half is the golden bars. The other half is just black. So a full 40 stack under one general will not really have the faction logo in the unit banner on the campaign map.
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    Can this be changed in startpos.esf?

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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    And in some minutes we will read: This stupid CA. I'm playing with 40 units (500 men per unit) and this fu... game have lags on extrem graphic settings.

    Nice CA have the option to change unit number.

    How do react AI on this? Do they also recruit 40 units?
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    Quote Originally Posted by joedreck View Post
    How do react AI on this? Do they also recruit 40 units?
    They're all good with it, surprisingly.
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    Cool, well done.
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    Default Re: Want 40 units fighting under one General? Here is how!

    very well! but...if we have a 2 armies vs 2 armies? have we a 80 units vs 80 units battle?

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    Well done m8

    One thing requested uselessly for ages to CA solved by a customer just one day after release... nothing really new here. And still someone who loves vanilla...

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