Barely Accepted

**michaeljassonsklt** · August 29, 2013, 10:22 AM

Just get excommunicated by the Pope, so I sent a Diplomat to Rome to have a reconciliation. They demand very much money for tribute, about 13000/4 turn. So I accept that tribute and the cancel that tribute on the same time.
And then because of that cancelation, my relations with Pope goes to abysmal. So my same diplomat try to give them money (100 florins) to pope, and the 'barely accepted' and they fEel annoyed. My relation then still at abysmal. Few turns later the Pope died, and my cardinal elected as Pope. My relations than go up to perfect. But, when I'm give them money again(1000 florins) my relations go down again to abysmal.

Why this is happen? Pope doesn't like money anymore? Have you guys share same experience? Thanks anyway.

**~~Sweetie Belle~~** · August 29, 2013, 10:36 AM

His Holliness is probably frustrated by the tiny amount of money offered to him. Try to donate more money next time.

**GarretJax** · August 30, 2013, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Sweetie Belle

His Holliness is probably frustrated by the tiny amount of money offered to him. Try to donate more money next time.

I think this might be it, 1k isn't a lot of money really . . .

**Dude with the Food** · August 30, 2013, 05:31 AM

If your relations are perfect don't do anything. Don't fix something that isn't broken.

**Earl of_Duke** · August 30, 2013, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Dude with the Food

If your relations are perfect don't do anything. Don't fix something that isn't broken.

This. There is a "wrap-around" effect I have experienced several times with el Papa. Once your relations are Perfect, wait until they drop again before you gift him anything. This may happen for other factions too, but I've only experienced it with the Papal States.

**War lord** · August 30, 2013, 08:55 AM

The diplomacy AI can actually remember when you dick them over by selling them a city and then taking it, or canceling tribute.

**Aymer de Valence** · August 31, 2013, 05:14 PM

canceling tribute.

Lol it's so funny doing that, I can imagine them shuddering with rage

**michaeljassonsklt** · September 01, 2013, 09:05 AM

Alright, gonna make more money for the Pope than. Making money in M2TW is much easier than makin one in RTW because I'm always have negative income at RTW. And.. Oh ! Just saw Sicily captured Rome and The Pope now at Florence, they already declare truce though. That's very intresting view for me.