I'm getting really annoyed of seeing the word 'entitled'

**SKSlave** · August 27, 2013, 07:11 AM

Make no mistake, this is certainly the buzzword of the forum and many other forums related to Rome II, as well as other video games in general. It's used so often that as soon as I read it I immediately disregard the person saying it. Let's take a look at the definition of 'entitled...'

verb (used with object), en·ti·tled, en·ti·tling.1.to give (a person or thing) a title, right, or claim to something; furnish with grounds for laying claim:His executive position entitled him to certain courtesies rarely accorded others.

2.to call by a particular title or name: What was the book entitled?

3.to designate (a person) by an honorary title.

I think the most relevant in regards to the DLC confusion is number 1. To give a (person or thing) a title, right, or claim to something.

I often see that people have no grounds to complain about DLC, especially if it's free. Paid DLC is entirely optional and can be bypassed, while free DLC is charging you nothing, so you shouldn't complain about it either. But let's look at the reverse. If there is some paid DLC that for whatever reason you don't/won't/can't pay for it, you're missing out on content. Some people can't preorder the game due to money or time constraints perhaps, and they are getting shafted on the Greek pack which they will have to pay later for. Free DLC is a touchy subject. We absolutely must not speak negatively about it because it's free, so the fanboys would say. So what if CA served up a steaming pile of dog turd as free DLC? Unlikely, but possible. Aren't we allowed to complain then? It's free!

Such a silly buzzword and I can't wait for it to fade away.

**Kelsper** · August 27, 2013, 07:17 AM

You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with it.

**Evan MF** · August 27, 2013, 07:17 AM

Some people believe a faction as important to the period as Seleucids is entitled given what you're paying for. Now thankfully they have given Seleucids as a free DLC, but I still saw the entitlement complaints justified in that case. It's considered selling an incomplete product.

**Lord Dakier** · August 27, 2013, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Evan MF

Some people believe a faction as important to the period as Seleucids is entitled given what you're paying for. Now thankfully they have given Seleucids as a free DLC, but I still saw the entitlement complaints justified in that case. It's considered selling an incomplete product.

So you agree that all the minor factions should be just as detailed as Rome? Cause htat is essentially what this is all about. People aren't entitled to nothing. CA said you won't get Seleucids at first so you're not being conned out of your money. You don't like it then thats your problem.

**b3an15HLy** · August 27, 2013, 07:18 AM

You are entitled to create this thread, I am entitled to make this post, mods are entitled to close this thread.

**redxavier** · August 27, 2013, 07:22 AM

I think you should probably quote where you feel the word has been improperly used, to put it into context. As it stands, I'm at a lost to understand what you're really complaining about. Equally though, I wonder what the point of this new topic is... are you entitled to it?

**Rittsy** · August 27, 2013, 07:22 AM

I order a burger combo, but don't have the extra $1 to upsize. Is that the fast food outlet's fault? The cashier feels sorry for me and gives me a free apple pie. The pie is cold. How much attention would you pay to my 8 paragraph rant on an internet forum?

You're "entitled" to what you pay for. If CA sell a DLC that is sub-par by any reasonable standard than sure, complain away. If CA release a free-DLC which is terrible than sure, complain away...but it's not worth a 25 page thread on how DLC is ruining the moral fabric of society...which is what DLC threads inevitably descend into.

**Sup With That?** · August 27, 2013, 07:29 AM

Now we're arguing about Grammar.

**Woodrow Skillson** · August 27, 2013, 07:33 AM

You are not entitled to anything from a game company. You are choosing to purchase the product they have offered for sale. They do not owe you anything, unless they explicitly fail to deliver a playable game for you. The game can be good or bad, it does not matter. As long as it runs, and does what it advertises, you are not entitled to anything.

CA does not owe you more factions, blood, or anything else they offer up for DLC. Since they are not offering that up for sale with the initial purchase, it is not part of the deal. If you do not like it, you can voice your concerns, but they have no obligation to listen to you, and probably will not. The only time CA will "owe" gamers anything is if they fail to provide what they advertise, a la Sim City 4. If the Romans literally cannot be played, they owe you a fix or you deserve a refund. If they are poorly done, tough

, caveat emptor. Welcome to capitalism, its pretty

when you think about it.

**chadwicknight** · August 27, 2013, 07:34 AM

I see. People are starting to break under the pressure.

Hang on mate, it's almost over!

Peace

**Duncan III** · August 27, 2013, 07:45 AM

There could have been a good thread about the use of the word 'entitled', this isn't it

**Aymer de Valence** · August 27, 2013, 07:57 AM

**CnConrad** · August 27, 2013, 08:15 AM

I believe you are talking about the "Entitlement Mentality" which the vast majority of children and consequently TWC members suffer from.

**-Concrete-** · August 27, 2013, 08:26 AM

You sound like a communist. I've noticed there's a lot of that on these forums. Probably links in with the extremely young average age.

**Queen Annes Revenge** · August 27, 2013, 08:42 AM

Or maybe you're only entitled to the Roman faction, and others are a bonus.

**PhallosMaximus** · August 27, 2013, 08:49 AM

The most ridiculous entitlement I have seen in this forum, was one guy who actually thought CA owned him a personal apology for not releasing enough news