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    Ramon Gonzales y Garcia's Avatar Nobleza y Valor
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    these are things still in mind, maybe they will be made maybe not

    -different campaigns in different timeframes ex. Atilla's invasion, the Avars, Belisarius campaigns, the rise of Islam
    -Sassanid ancilliaries (most likely to happen)
    -a few more units
    -differentiate Mauri from Lakhmids
    -more buildings
    -more scripts (ex. I plan to allow foderati to be available only through script, and not through training)
    -other factions (by using the 'unlimited' factions idea)

    -will update when I think up of more things
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    I'll be honest for me, the biggest thing I'd like to see is more campaigns, but of course everything sounds good

    But a "Islamic Invasion" setting is something I'd really like to see you do, maybe tie it into the Belisarious campaign? Have Islam kind of form some huge/gigantic/massive horde in Arabia. This time period would be really interesting and sadly it is an era that is hardly ever mentioned or had any mods cover it in detail. You have the fall of one great empire (The sassanids) and the near fall of another (ERE) and the emergence of a new religion. You still have various steppe powers (Bulgars, Khazars, Patzinaks etc) and if you wanted to construct it as such, you could maybe have the Vikings "pop" into existance to as hordes in the Russian steppes. The timeframe of 600 to say the death of charlemagne 810ish is a truly interesting time that is deserving of your great work Ramon. Being that I am sure many of the same units could be transferred, I would hope the effort would be somewhat minimized.

    I can always dream. Playing a weakened ERE with the Arabs, Bulgars, Slavs and Rus Vikings all trying to take you down is a nice setting. Charlemagne trying to crush the pagan Saxons, Avars and Lombards....awesome Khazars, Bulgars, Magyars and Patzinaks just rampaging from the steppes!!!! Vikings!

    A very interesting campaign it would be imo

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    i think you also should go with more campaigns and other factions.
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    Maybe new quotes from late antiquity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echbart
    Maybe new quotes from late antiquity
    been thinking of doing that, too
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    I would love to see the Mauri and Lakhmids differentiated...

    Looking forward to later versions, like I said it's the best BI mod in the original setting.

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    Another thing that should be indroduced is the Fulcrum. Dr Philip Rance in his " The Fulcrum, the late Roman and Byzantine Testudo, the Germanization of Roman infantry tacticts" claims that according to Maurice the Romans still used the testudo, particullary in the east where the Romans ( or the Byzantines ) where facing large amounts of Persian archers, would march under covers of their shields and then charge.
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    interesting info, Reno, thanks for the info
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    What abaout some ancilliaries for barbarian people???

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    Create more units for moors and berbers to have a great arab empire.
    I think It's a interesting idea to renforce islamic factions and create a third force in campaign (the fist force is 3 romans factions and the second is sassanids in my opinion).

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    Ramon, ever think of making a provincial campaign for the Huns? The Huns could be the main focus along with a limited number of European factions and WRE, ERE. around 450AD. Imagine if the scourge of the earth conquered Europe and Rome??...LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echbart
    What abaout some ancilliaries for barbarian people???
    sorry for the late reply here, if u can give me some ideas will implement them
    Create more units for moors and berbers to have a great arab empire.
    I think It's a interesting idea to renforce islamic factions and create a third force in campaign (the fist force is 3 romans factions and the second is sassanids in my opinion).
    in due time for now am focusing on the Sassanids, am also getting loads of suggestions and info from ppl like kambiz, Rez, and Rex_Pelasgorum...
    Quote Originally Posted by Riothamus
    Ramon, ever think of making a provincial campaign for the Huns? The Huns could be the main focus along with a limited number of European factions and WRE, ERE. around 450AD. Imagine if the scourge of the earth conquered Europe and Rome??...LOL
    I am but want to 'perfect' well as much as possible, the core mod
    Yeah, Ive long thought that the rise of Islam would be a very good setting....the differing Saxon Kingdoms otherwise thered be nothing to do but invade europe which wasnt really happening too often at that time.
    yup, I got that idea from u
    nice info, if I start working on it will consult u. also in case u want to work on something like that, ur welcome to do it maybe make a provincial campaign
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    Yeah..I would love to see later Dark Ages, coming of Avars...rise of Islam...etc...
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    Yeah, Ive long thought that the rise of Islam would be a very good setting. I believe that for the brief initial period when Muslims were still united, they were one gigantic empire called "The Caliphate" which simplifies things a little. Perhaps they could have a counter faction reimplemented? Heres a proposal for the list of relevant factions for a start date of maybe 630AD:

    1. Frankish Kingdom-France
    2. Visigothic Kingdom of Spain-Spain
    3. Lombard Kingdom-northern Italy
    4. Saxon tribes-continental northern Europe
    5. Burgundian Kindom-south eastern France
    6. Kingdom of east Anglia-eastern England
    7. Kingdom of wessex-western England
    8. The Picts- Scotland
    9. The Scots-north eastern Ireland
    10.The Slavs-eastern Poland
    11.The Byzantine Empire-Greece, the Balkans, Turkey and certain coastal Levant cities
    12.The Caliphate(perhaps with counter faction)-Arabia
    13.The Berbers- north Africa
    14.The Sassanian Empire-Persia/Egypt(at this time)
    15.The Moors-north Africa
    16. The Pechenegs-Hungary/Romania
    17. The Khazars-Kazakhstan
    18. The Papal states-central Italy
    19. The Norse-Scandinavia

    There are a few ideas anyway. I know its a little Brit centric but I feel that its necessary to have different factions in England to represent wars that took place between the differing Saxon Kingdoms otherwise thered be nothing to do but invade europe which wasnt really happening too often at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldwin of Jerusalem
    Yeah, Ive long thought that the rise of Islam would be a very good setting. I believe that for the brief initial period when Muslims were still united, they were one gigantic empire called "The Caliphate" which simplifies things a little. Perhaps they could have a counter faction reimplemented? Heres a proposal for the list of relevant factions for a start date of maybe 630AD:

    1. Frankish Kingdom-France
    2. Visigothic Kingdom of Spain-Spain
    3. Lombard Kingdom-northern Italy
    4. Saxon tribes-continental northern Europe
    5. Burgundian Kindom-south eastern France
    6. Kingdom of east Anglia-eastern England
    7. Kingdom of wessex-western England
    8. The Picts- Scotland
    9. The Scots-north eastern Ireland
    10.The Slavs-eastern Poland
    11.The Byzantine Empire-Greece, the Balkans, Turkey and certain coastal Levant cities
    12.The Caliphate(perhaps with counter faction)-Arabia
    13.The Berbers- north Africa
    14.The Sassanian Empire-Persia/Egypt(at this time)
    15.The Moors-north Africa
    16. The Pechenegs-Hungary/Romania
    17. The Khazars-Kazakhstan
    18. The Papal states-central Italy
    19. The Norse-Scandinavia

    There are a few ideas anyway. I know its a little Brit centric but I feel that its necessary to have different factions in England to represent wars that took place between the differing Saxon Kingdoms otherwise thered be nothing to do but invade europe which wasnt really happening too often at that time.
    If it would be around 630, the 'Scots' didn't exist yet (they were still the chiefdom of the Dal Riada), and the Dal Riada weren't that important. They were regularly submitted to an Irish or Pictish king, and wouldn't be of any reasonable importance on a map of all Europe. Further, they didn't control 'north eastern Ireland', but only a tiny sliver of the coast, which had to pay tribute of cattle and fish to the Ui Neill principalities in control of Ulster and Meath (though they'd also largely dissolved their previous confederacy, leaving the only true united power in Ireland in the hands of Munster; while Leinster and Connacht had kings, they were experiencing succession crises, Munster was, as it always had been, the most stable kingdom relatively in that it experienced the fewest number of such problems {which weren't really that constant for others, but they did tend to happen at bad times, like right before the viking invasions of Ireland}).
    Last edited by Anthony; October 15, 2006 at 09:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldwin of Jerusalem
    Yeah, Ive long thought that the rise of Islam would be a very good setting. I believe that for the brief initial period when Muslims were still united, they were one gigantic empire called "The Caliphate" which simplifies things a little. Perhaps they could have a counter faction reimplemented? Heres a proposal for the list of relevant factions for a start date of maybe 630AD:

    1. Frankish Kingdom-France
    2. Visigothic Kingdom of Spain-Spain
    3. Lombard Kingdom-northern Italy
    4. Saxon tribes-continental northern Europe
    5. Burgundian Kindom-south eastern France
    6. Kingdom of east Anglia-eastern England
    7. Kingdom of wessex-western England
    8. The Picts- Scotland
    9. The Scots-north eastern Ireland
    10.The Slavs-eastern Poland
    11.The Byzantine Empire-Greece, the Balkans, Turkey and certain coastal Levant cities
    12.The Caliphate(perhaps with counter faction)-Arabia
    13.The Berbers- north Africa
    14.The Sassanian Empire-Persia/Egypt(at this time)
    15.The Moors-north Africa
    16. The Pechenegs-Hungary/Romania
    17. The Khazars-Kazakhstan
    18. The Papal states-central Italy
    19. The Norse-Scandinavia

    There are a few ideas anyway. I know its a little Brit centric but I feel that its necessary to have different factions in England to represent wars that took place between the differing Saxon Kingdoms otherwise thered be nothing to do but invade europe which wasnt really happening too often at that time.
    To make a mod about the rise of islam and include 4 Brittish factions is... a bit over the top, yes. I know this is hard to accept but the brittish islands were at this time - from a European "macro-political" point of view - rather unimportant and in the outskirts of the continent. I would hardly say that it's necessary to portray the battles and power struggles that went on there. It all depends on what you focus on. I also think that it would be to early to include Pechenegs or Papal states ( the city of Rome was formally under Imperial rule and a part of the Exarchate of Italia )

    A faction list for a campaign that takes place somewhere around the first half of the seventh century could maybe look like this:

    - Roman Empire ( "Rhomaike Autokratia" or ''Basileia ton Rhomaion'' )
    - Sassanid Kingdom
    - The Islamic Caliphate ( depending on what year one start the campaign, of course )
    - Avar Confederacy
    - Khazar tribes
    - Visigothic Kingdom
    - Duchy of Spoleto/Benevento
    - Kingdom of Pavia/Italy
    - Aquitaine ( after the death of Clotair II in 629 )
    - Kingdom of Burgundy
    - Kingdom of Neustria or Austrasia
    - Duchy of Bavaria/Thuringia/Alemania
    - Principality of Quarseni ( or Moors/Mauri/Berbers )
    - Tribes of Daner/Götar/Svear ( Scandinavia )
    - Cornwall/Essex/East Anglia/Mercia or some other Brittish faction.
    - Saxon tribes
    - Slavic or Croat tribes
    - Maybe some Bulgar faction ( possibly "Confederation of Old Great Bulgaria" or "Onoguria" ).
    - Albania or Iberia ( present day Georgia/Armenia )

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    Campaign for 435-630 AD

    1) Romani (dying west)
    2) Romani
    3) Britones
    4) Anglo-Saxones
    5) Franci
    6) Burgundii
    7) Alamanni
    8) Visigothi
    9) Suebi
    10) Vandali
    11) Hunni
    12) Sclaveni
    13) Sassanidi
    14) Hephthalites
    15) Göktürks (emergent around 552)
    16) Avars (emergent around 552)
    17) Lakhmids
    18) Scoti (Picts only became dominant after several defeats of the Scoti by the Angles in 600-630. Scoti posses the northeast of Ireland and a part of the coastline of northwest Brittania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A1l_Riata )
    19) Ostrogothi
    20) Langobardi
    21) Rebels/Freemen/Brigantes/whatever...

    There are many more that deserve to be included but unfortunately RTW only allow 21 factions. So Gepidi, Khazars, Mauri/Berbers, Picti are set to rebel.
    Just a thought...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramon Gonzales y Garcia
    these are things still in mind, maybe they will be made maybe not

    -differentiate Mauri from Lakhmids
    I little worked on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramon Gonzales y Garcia
    -more buildings
    At least we added correct temples for Slavs not the Germanic ones.
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    I must say it I only play Flaggelum Dei. BI vanilla is dead to me.

    More Byzantine units and some ancilliary for them as well is what I would ask of you. Also, Please let's not have islam, it would deserve a mod entirely on its own. FD is amazing as is.

    Islam should be for FD 2 or something. Having played as the Romano British, and only lately conquered Rome, I feel that their unit count is a bit low, even if Brittish Legionnaires kick major arse. I would think that taking the time and money to build Circus Maximus would lead to the best cavalry unit Romano British can have, which righteously should be ... "Knights of the round table", a superb heavy cav Very expensive unit, exclusive to Romano British. Also, since they were Romans, how about having more of the "normal" western roman units?

    Historically Arthur was a descendant of Romano British, so it shouldn't really be a problem. Also, If you could add more buildings historical or non... Capturing Rome was like reading a historic account of the time. So many unique buildings.

    I think FD will DEFFINITELY be left after MTW2 is inflicted upon us. Other BI mods won't.
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    your mod is just wonderfull, but i would like to see the palmyrians maybe, nobody mentioned this faction, maybe it could be an emerging faction, why not ?

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