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    Icon5 Are you willing to delay release for better product?

    Plain and simple. I'm interested to know. Would you delay the release of Rome 2 by 12 months if the game were substantially better. If not, what are the conditions in which you would accept a 12 month wait.

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    sure np
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    Default Re: Are you willing to delay release for better product?

    No. Because they announced it already and its so close to release. If they had decided to postpone the release eight months ago I'd be alright with that. Besides, I don't see how the game could be "substantially better". All the main work on the engine is already done. All of these "substantial problems" people keep brining up are actually quite minor overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan113112 View Post
    No. Because they announced it already and its so close to release. If they had decided to postpone the release eight months ago I'd be alright with that. Besides, I don't see how the game could be "substantially better". All the main work on the engine is already done. All of these "substantial problems" people keep brining up are actually quite minor overall.
    Agreed, and to add to that, there's only so much internal testing CA can do that would 'improve' or fix issues. It's only really once the game is out there, in the wild, with thousands upon thousands of us getting our grubby mitts on it that certain issues/imbalances may come to light. Player feedback, both technical and gameplay wise, is what will really improve on the core experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clock View Post
    Agreed, and to add to that, there's only so much internal testing CA can do that would 'improve' or fix issues. It's only really once the game is out there, in the wild, with thousands upon thousands of us getting our grubby mitts on it that certain issues/imbalances may come to light. Player feedback, both technical and gameplay wise, is what will really improve on the core experience.
    Exactly. A fresh pair of eyes (or millions of pairs of eyes) is definitely needed to sort out the final bugs. Even modders need others to test their mods.

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    Default Re: Are you willing to delay release for better product?

    Quote Originally Posted by omzdog View Post
    Plain and simple. I'm interested to know. Would you delay the release of Rome 2 by 12 months if the game were substantially better. If not, what are the conditions in which you would accept a 12 month wait.
    I would not mind a 1 to 2 month delay so the game could be better optimized and the AI worked on more and a tad bit more features could be added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stradar1 View Post
    I would not mind a 1 to 2 month delay so the game could be better optimized and the AI worked on more and a tad bit more features could be added.
    Two months wouldn't be that bad but 12 months would be insane this close to release. You'd probably cause more issues with the fans than the bugs will.

    Also, isn't it strange that the poll results are hidden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan113112 View Post
    Two months wouldn't be that bad but 12 months would be insane this close to release. You'd probably cause more issues with the fans than the bugs will.

    Also, isn't it strange that the poll results are hidden?
    I was just trying to be realistic about a delay even if they some how found a reason to delay it wouldn't be more then 1-2 months. Which I have every reason to believe they will not delay it but I would not mind if they did for that certain amount of time to better the game remove bugs add features and work on AI and such. Other then that yes 12 months is a bit much and a over stretch and would be bad for business to delay a game for 12 months this close to the release date.

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    there is no telling that if we wait 12 more months the game will be better
    I prefer play a game now and get myself ready for bugs and play it till the bugs fixed than 1 more year
    Empire II and Medieval III pls

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    what's the point waiting longer? I bet you could also ask yourself the same question after 12 months passed.
    I am sure we will always find things that could/should/would be better if they spent more time on it.... why dont we say 13 months then? 14?

    This is similar to economic theory in which our expectations rise as technology makes progress. For instance - years ago our computers were 386 and 486, now we want i5 and i7...
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    Default Re: Are you willing to delay release for better product?

    can't you see them after you vote?

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    why does it have to be hidden?

    My answer is NOoooooooooope

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    No. The game will now improve through patches, expansions and mods. Like all TW to go beforr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oestvang View Post
    No. The game will now improve through patches, expansions and mods. Like all TW to go beforr.
    The question is hypothetical, not practical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omzdog View Post
    The question is hypothetical, not practical.
    Perfect is the enemy of good enough. The game already looks good, and to fit at least the developer's view of what it should be. Players viewing previous games through rose tinted glasses and almost a decade of mods, many of which were years in the making means expectations are sky high. Many people feel entitled to their own personal version of the game.

    The fact is, CA are working time, funding and resource constraints that only developers sitting on a goldmine -Blizzard and Valve - have the time to ignore. And history has a lesson or two when it comes to streching those constraints in the search for perfection. Daikatana and Duke Nukem Forever.

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    I don't want to wait. As long as it is playable, I want the game now! 0 Day patch via stream is ok. (that gives them 2 weeks after going gold ie burning discs) Getting a PC game bug free is very difficult. I do not mind being a "play tester" as long as patches come via stream at a fast pace. On that point CA should release the collectors edition early and allow those few players to give them early patch feed back. I'm sure many more people would buy the collectors edition if they would get the game a week or so earlier to help play test it!

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    you're high as hell if you think i'm going to wait another year. I wake up every day and check this site and have been for months....

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    Always.

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    What good could such ridiculousness possibly cause? The game is finished now, all of its core features are implemented and balanced. In other words, the developer deems it good enough to be released now.

    If I wanted a better and more refined first impression, I would personally wait 12 months after release before buying the game. There is no reason to deny the joy of playing it from players who are more easily satisfied, simply on the excuse of "making it perfect". Every game is made better/more bugless after the first few months anyway.
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    12 months is too long, 3 months for some polish etc. yeah but not 12 months.

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